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can you please describe what is this Graphology and how you are using this as a tool for recruiting high profile people.
I am really interested to know much about this tool. If I can have your e-mail id I will contact you to learn from you about this tool. I will request you if you can describe "graphology as recruitment tool" in this forum.
Hope you will continue this topic with your real life experiences.
Dev P. Ray
Graphology is a science of understanding Handwriting. Its about understanding Human behaviour and traits using handwriting and Signature.
The candidate is asked to fill up some forms and also asked to write on 3 blank sheets and then the Handwriting analysis is done.
Its an amazing science and it helps to filter a lot of candidates.
Infact i strongly use this tool to recruit my team members atleast if i am unable to use it for other candidates.
Do let me know if you want to know anything more about it.
I have done my certification in this science.
i heard that it can be used for selecting a candidate.i don't know the subject of it.
i feel its the best process that will help us once v know the theory as well practically how to study a person using it.
i would like you to come up with some material relating that d tips how to study person using it etc.
i hope u will help me in this regards.
thanks in advance.
Its really a good topic initiated by Raj.
Okay let me convey about Graphology :----
Its a ability to understand individual personality, Behaviour Patterns on the basis of Handwriting. I have seen people using this as a tool in Recruitment. But this is generallly used in the cases where Recruitment
is to be done for very selective posiitons Like on Senior level, May be , where Persona will make a more difference than a Role play. I
In Mass hiring it is not as such considered.
There are other techniques also which tells about the personlaity like,
Personality tests, Problem solving ability-Case studies, Comments of Present Leaderes--Eg politician;Actors, Behavour explanation on the basis of DOB Or sunshine.
These things require a skill & this is subject to personal understanding of this feild as well.
Would say being a HR AND have Done a good amount of Recruitment , I always tried to rely on Data provided , Interview & other techniques. yaah i do feel this Art also adds a lot in Recruitmet.
Ya! After reading about Graphology I feel its very useful for assessing a person basing on his writing. This helps us in filtering the candidates at first round itself. But the person who following the process graphology should have complete knowledge on this, by learning in a short time will give adverse effects, i think.
Thanks for raising a novel concept in assessing a candidature.
I TOO AM CERTIFIED GRAPHOLOGY, I FEEL THAT THE SAME CAN BE USED AS VERY EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR RECRUITMENT.
I BY ANALYZING MY FRIENDS HANDWRITING HAD COME TO KNOW HIS SUICIDAL TENDENCY, I SAVED HIM ONCE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY I COULDN'T SAVE HIM SECOND TIME, SO I KNOW HOW POWERFUL IT IS AS TOOL FOR ANALYSIS
It is seems to be very few HR people are using this tool for recruitment.
Any way, I feel that this can be tried by all HR at the time of recruitment for all executive positions.
Meanwhile please share some information on how to get certified in this science or art and books available on this topic to proceed further.
Just to add, this science just cannot be mastered , as doing a course.
Its like a passion. As a behaviour analyst, as i analyse behavior of people, by talking to them and observing their body language, sometimes using NLP. Graphology also has become a part of the analysis and a passion for me.
I use graphology, in many spheres of my life, and it becomes very easy, if you are using it daily in your life, So you keep on learning daily.
Infact my life has changed because of changing my signature ( it changed subconsiously, without me knowing about it !!!!!!!).
Your Signature is Your Identity To The Cosmic. We make it complex thinking that people would copy it.!!!!!!!!!!! Lots of myths associated with it.
Well let me know if you want me to conduct these workshops in your companies or cities.
Its a science of understanding handwriting and signature.
Our handwriting and signature, represents our behavior and traits.
So its a study of the personality using that science.
We use Thoms profiling and Psychometric tests, for the same.
However this also is a part of the same test. here the best thing is that, nobody can fake it.
wherin in other tests people can be manipulative, not over here in Graphology.
It actually is linked to the nerve cells. Like a LIE DETECTOR
Well my nos are 09967942211
You all can contact me to know more about this science
i have a small doubt.using ur system graphology.can u tell us up to how much % we will be right.
at times a person hand writing will be changes based on the situation like he might be in hurry or tensed etc etc.at that point of time how will u judge that person.
Well i have heard about Graphology and know that it is a very nice tool that can be used at the time of selection.
But i am unaware of the institutes that provide certificate course in this very field. Could you please throw some light on the institutes in Delhi,Lucknow region and also suggest some good books on this very topic.
Nice to know that you have initiated a different topic..........which is worth appreciating!Raj,you have mentioned that you are a certified graphologist.Can u tell me the details of the institute/organisation which is offering this certification?Though it could be used as a tool for recruitment definitely one needs to have trained people for the same.I would like to know whether subjectivity will influence our assessment?
Please provide more details.
Many thanks for initiating such a wonderful topic. I have heard about this when I completed my gradautaion and forwarded my resume to one phamaceutical company thr' one my friend which was a computer print copy. After that friend came back to me saying that you need to give your resume in hand written mode.
I was surpisrised that in the world of computer why that HR fellow is asking for the old fashioned mode which is difficult to manage and even difficult to read if any bodies hand writing is too bad ( Believe me my handwriting is good)
Then I came to know this word of graphology and got information that this HR person does the selection or screening by checking the personal traits by judging handwrinting.
It was a 5 years back story. Then submitted my resume in hand written mode I got call from company as well but I did't join because by that time I was looking for further study in HR :lol: .
Raaj one request to you for our Pune HR Meet can you please address the mob with your experienced words and explain the aspect of the handwriting and other useful selection modes or any other psychometric tests.
Heard alot about Graphology..
Can you please share any ppts, pdf files, which give information on Graphology.
I mean any notes on how to assess or analyse handwriting, and how it can be used as an effective tool for recruitment.
Thanks in advance
Thanks for your overwhelming response on Graphology. Their might be institutes, who certify people on this.
I did a course with David, from Finland, when he came to India,which i have mentioned in the earlier post.
Well Sumedha, i cant do the analysis just like that, there are lots of things behind that, its like ur sending me ur palm scanned, and asking me to tell your future :)))) :D
well if you are in Mumbai, i can see your writing and signature and can do the analysis.
Rakhee, the person who does this analysis, need to have good knowledge, and yes it should not end at subjectivity, it should be just used as one tool,and an indicator.
Mona thanks. You are right, many corporates ask for sending a handwritten resume for the same. I use the same for screening senior level candidates.
Its a good tech to asses the personality of a person but it has some limitations,and more over it depends on the person attitude at that time becoz when we see ourself we write in different styles many times in different moods.So its not a perfect tool to judge the personality but to some extent its helpful.
As a Hr I also see some attributes based on that we judge normally I see profiles body language, fav color,role model & way of communicating. zodiac sign, Emotional intelligence.
my handwriting is different in different situations. for example. if i am adding a comment to someones resume the handwriting is different, if i am writing a note its different, if i am sending a love note its different. so my question is how can my really personality be judged if i show up as a candidate coz in that situation i may have way different handwriting. Pls comment.
Your every posting seems that you are not willing to go for detail.Every time when I read your posting it always left me half filled.
can you please go with some detailed posting, so that forum members showing interest on graphology can learn from you. You are certified and we should learn from you .Please provide informations on certification,how we can use graphology as a tool for recruitment. Its sure that we can't use graphology for mass hiring but when the hiring is limited how we can use. Please give an example and let the memebrs know how it is useful.
waiting for your next detail posting.
Dev P. Ray
I dont understand your comment on
EVERY POSTING DOES NOT HAVE DETAIL??????? WHAT DETAIL ARE YOU LOOKING FOR FRIEND ???????( pls refer to the trailing posts for every information )
Can i ask you, what information do you want.
Well its a science , which is evolving slowly, and their are very few people here in India , who are certified on the same.
Yes i can definitely Train and Teach everyone who is interested to do this course. This course cannot be learnt on the net. There are no presentations available.
However I started with a perspective and comment and was trying to generate awareness.
In my view, the higher the position is , the less emphasis should handwriting get in the selection process. What I mean to say is that, it might be excellent for a direct selling person indicating his emotional stability but certainly not for the CFO.
Thank you for opening up this interesting topic once again. In between I saw someone else coming out with this subject as a book, but did not hear anything from him since then.
Graphology is really an effective additional tool for HR Practioners if correctly used at the time of recruitment and then later on during employee performance monitoring and analysis and progression. I am telling you with experience and confidence because I developed interest in this subject in the 90s when I happened to work for an extremely busy project office filled with multinational work force. During that time, the computer age was just catching up and all the communications were mostly hand written. Each of the piece of paper coming in with requests for approvals and suggestions and grievances were telling more meanings and stories to it, when I started looking at them with a graphologist view point. Especially when it came to CVs and also complaint letters, and request letters. Also initial collection of letters or hand written papers, later on became a projection of each of those individuals personality. And I still continue this hobby.
To comment on your reply, regarding the signature querry of one of our member, an experienced graphologist can analyse an individuals personality only partially using the signature. In fact, if some one is using graphology, I suggest he combines the analysis along with numerology and other mehtods of astro analysis (wherever possible) and he can pin down the individual to almost 90% accurate level. Even a constant effort to deceive the examiners effort can be found out by experienced graphologist.
Good work, and I would love to be a part of your communication chain.
I'm currently pursuing MBA -II from Pune University. I'm interested in Graphology. Will u pls guide me as to which institute or professionals in Pune conduct this course & what is the duration of the same..
I'm really looking forward for this course, also i hav learned that it has a lot of scope....
Thanx & Regards
Thanks for clearing our doubts! Graphology is a subject which is of great interest to me.But somehow i was in the dark....I still don't know whether there are any institutes offering this as a course!From the content of your posting ,it is evident that you have a good grasp about the subject.Not only as a person working in the HR area but also as a person with background in the behavioral area i would like to know more!
keep up the good work going!
Good thing you have given information about which I was searching for. We use so much of psychometric tools for selecting candidates like THOMAS PROFILING. Is the graphology gives the reports like.
Is it the Graphology is a tool which a candidate should under take certain tests or just hand writing and signature tells every thing. How will you confirm that your assessment is correct.(optimum). Please tell all the members of the forum about the certification or why can't you take the initiation to impart the knowledge for all with some live examples. Is there any sites which will give more information on this.
Your reply is valuable.
I also do believe that human’s personality can be judged by his hand writing and signature and it can be one of the tools among others which HR Professionals have to use like mentioned earlier, i.e. body language, communication skills, problem solving skills….etc . Along with these another important area is face reading and thus judging personality by looking at the facial expressions and face itself.
But what if a person is expert of changing facial expressions or as mentioned by one of the fellows that writing doesn’t remain the same in all cases. How much effectiveness do you feel for both of these tools at that time.
Therefore, I believe that these could be the tools which add value in your assessment but these could be relied upon 100 percently even if a person is expert of these areas.
Please comment on the same.
Thank you for the responses. As regards to Graphological sites and learning, there are several sites where you can login, register and get their newsletters. For studying, I have found a few organisation excellent, and list them below:
You can directly communicate with any or all of them and get replies to your satisfaction and start with. As any other extra education, this is one from a developing field and it requires lot of passion to start with and continue. I also affirm that all the assumptions are case by case and at any time, do not resource to judgement with minimal input of information. However, I wish to reconfirm that this is a wonderful utility tool for any HR or Management person, to identify and analyse a person you interact with in a much more better way. Many times, we cannot extract information in writing so, may have to resort to options or methods to get whatever little we can from the person who we wish to study or identify and have to work on with our own judgement and additional data in hand.
If nothing constructive comes up, just think of the enjoyment of collecting a small note from each person you come across or interact and look back to that file or archive after 5 or 10 years back, you will realise the joy of interacting with him/her and get the beauty of life treaded all along.
For Raaj's information, I work as an Executive in a French Oil Company in the UAE and more details can be gathered from the profile given in my blog : www.team1dubai.blogspot.com. You may bookmark it for some interesting daily reading and happening here, India and elsewhere.
I sincerely wish all the active participants of this very lively forum a great weekend.
i am Senior Executive , in the HR dept working with United Phosphorus Ltd. i too handle major amount of recruitment. i would like ot know more about graphology, courses available, institutes conducting it and any other information related to graphalogy. can u give me more information about it. thanks
i am Senior Executive , in the HR dept working with United Phosphorus Ltd. i too handle major amount of recruitment. i would like ot know more about graphology, courses available, institutes conducting it and any other information related to graphalogy. can u give me more information about it. i would be available at ks
Thank you for the valuable inputs you have given.
Being a final year MBA (HR) student i found this very useful. After reading the full discussion on this topic i actually gained an interest and i think it would be very useful for an HR to do this and find out the attitude and how the person can actually adapt himself/herself in the organization.
But when Graphology has to be used? In the first stage of recruitment or later in the process? When we see the recruitments for higher posts the people who apply may have similar skills and intellectual capabilities, it comes handy there. But when there is great disparity and when a person actually shows his abilities in all other stages of the recritment process is it actually necessary?
An individual's physiological and psychological functions are depicted in a person's handwriting. The act of writing contains spontaneous actions for the purpose of communicating ideas. The examination of a written specimen is the legal basis for forensic identification of an individual. The consistency of script features with their graphometric measurements is repeatable and reliable. Writing is expressive behavior and communicates personality characteristics. The appearance of the written specimen and the tactile sensation of the written performance are the communication vehicles. Writing is a learned habit where the writer has refashioned basic forms. The look and feel of writing dictates our style of writing rather than our formal training. Your writing is the result of your perception of your pen-stroke's touch and visual images.
The act of handwriting uniquely fulfills the requirements for a projective personality test. The writer records responses to testing stimuli by writing. The writer spontaneously constructs random parts (strokes) to form known patterns (letters) into communicated ideas (words). Imposed organization to these ideas (sentences) in a limited area (page) conveys a conscious creative purpose (message). The physical data is recorded as a written specimen.
The conditions for a projective personality test are interpretative, constructive, cathartic, constitutive, and creative. Interpretative is to generate meaningless patterns-drawing strokes. Constructive is to place known parts into patterns-writing letters, linking letters, constructing words. Cathartic is to project and release emotions- mechanism of writing. Constitutive is to impose organization upon chaotic material-maintaining sentence structure, filling in spaces with capitals, periods, baseline, starting and finishing lines. Creative is to generate a coherent message-the purpose of writing. The act of writing satisfies all of these test conditions for graphically depicting personality according to Lawrence K. Frank's grouping of projective techniques.
The act of writing contains human physiological and neural pathway requirements for extremely complex functions. The tactile manipulation of the writing instrument while composing a creative message involves a myriad of brain activities. Writing combines and uses elements of speaking, reading, composing, and eye-hand coordination. It is difficult to perform other tasks while writing such as exercising, holding a conversation, and operating a computer. The series execution of writing contains advanced prioritized planning and parallel cognition. Dynamically integrating perception, motion, and cognition is an involved task requiring your full attention. Writing is projecting a personality description. A particular graphic stroke-structure relates to a specific behavior or underlying disposition. The test process is the systematic observation of graphic signs or written indicators. Behavior, defined here as the observable compendium of traits, is measured while the subject is unaware of the test. The subject cannot significantly alter the test procedure or the findings. A graphic indicator is an expressive movement that is the connecting link to personality. The graphic indicator is a visible sign or symbol of an invisible behavioral attribute. Mathematical and scientific principles can be applied to the graphic symbols to understand an individual. A pattern of behavior is determined from these graphic gestures and their inter-relationships.
In forensics, the routinely examined written specimen is used to identify a particular writer. Oriental ideograms are considered picture or symbolic writing and do not apply. When you are writing your hand and fingers are moving faster than you can consciously control them, but they are under control when you draw or paint. The majority of graphometric measurements are stable from test to retest and consistent with time. Another individual cannot duplicate a person's writing rhythm. It is basically impossible to replicate an individual's pen-stroke construction and speed without detection.
The foundation for graphology is that a graphic structure defines a particular personality behavior or trait. Each graphic structure is generated from primary graphic elements. The four expressive elements are the baseline, the enclosure, the imposed structure, and the stroke.
The baseline is the imaginary line that letters rest on dividing upper and lower areas while moving forward to the right. The baseline is used to divide vertical placement and to direct movement. Flipping the written page up side down, that is rotating the page one hundred and eighty degrees, is a convenient way to observe the baseline. The baseline represents reality, threshold of awareness, foundation for movement and living. Baseline patterns represents your attitudes towards life experiences and activities.
Vertical placement above and below baseline represents the division between your intangible and tangible values, between abstract and concrete concepts, between philosophical and physical ideas, between personal beliefs and personal relationships.
Horizontal movement along the baseline represents the individual's reaction to experiences, living values, time demands, learning (right motion- to advance, expand, and progress and left motion- to revert, constrict, and regress).
An enclosure is formed when a line or lines border an area. An enclosure represents imagination, concept enlargement, and idea expansion. There are three basic forms of enclosures- the loop, the circle, and the stem.
A loop represents self-generating concepts. There are upper and lower vertical loops. An upper loop is formed by a line enclosing an area by starting forward and upward, moving backward, and returning forward and downward with the crossing strokes at the baseline. The letters e and l are examples of upper loops. A lower loop is formed by a line enclosing an area by starting forward and downward, moving backward, and returning forward and upward with the crossing strokes at the baseline. The lower second part of the letters g and y are examples of lower loops. An inverted loop is an enclosure where the stroke crosses vertically away from the baseline. The non-crossing line segment rests on the baseline.
A circle represents other viewpoints or external generated concepts. A circle is formed by line or lines enclosing an area by starting backward and downward, moving forward, and returning backward and upward meeting or touching at the top. The joined apex points vertically upward. The letter o and the letter a are examples of upper circles. The lower second parts of the letter f and of the letter q are examples of lower circles. An inverted circle is an enclosure where the meeting strokes are joined at bottom pointing downward. The letter s and the buckle in the letter k are examples of inverted circles.
A proportional enclosure contains horizontal left-right balance and symmetry. A dangling enclosure does not intersect the baseline.
The imposed written structures control conventional order. The stem is an imposed structure or taught pattern and represents relative learned standards for behavior. A stem is formed by an enclosure that is taught to be restrictive. Learned retraced closed loops of the letters t, d, p, and i are stems.
Other imposed patterns in writing represent relative group standards. A period followed by a capital letter is an imposed interruption with an expanded taught structure. Starting at the upper left, moving to the right, then downwards left to right is an imposed direction for filling in a written page. Spaces allotted to margins are imposed. Your signature is imposed.
The stroke depicts life force, energy flow. The stroke's pressure represents intellectual vitality, physiological energy, sexual passion, and emotional intensity. Pressure is defined by how much force you apply to the writing surface with the writing instrument and not the hand grip pressure. Pressure is how hard you press down on the paper. Pressure indicates the capacity for vigorous activities.
The stroke's thickness represents sensory capacity. The stroke's color contrast relative to the writing surface represents sensory discrimination. The stroke's straightness represents a firm approach, curves a soft approach. The stroke's transition is defined as the point of inflection. This is the point where the line changes its direction and its slope. The line's transition represents the degree of cognizance awareness and flexibility.
An upstroke from and a downstroke to the baseline represent the subconscious and the conscious response to maintain life movement, respectively. Stroke directions on a page are defined as upward towards top, downward towards bottom, forward towards right and backward towards left.
Writing speed is controlled by the individual's physiological clock. It appears that the writer subconsciously maintains a maximum stroke velocity with a superimposed variable oscillating profile. The writer is constantly adjusting the velocity function with changes in the stroke's length, direction, duration, pressure,and acceleration. To define a measurement unit or units is extremely difficult even with the aid of a computer's writing pad to capture the process. The basic unit of measurement is not the letter which makes it difficult for computer aided reading of handwriting. The secondary affects on speed are grip pressure, distance of the pen hold to the pen point, pen slant to the paper, pen point rotation, and pen point pressure to the paper. The thinnest fastest stroke is a straight forty five degree line moving up to the right where the finger-thumb controls the vertical and the wrist the horizontal motions. Fast writing is a catalyst to inner energy enhancing rapid movement, thinking, and reactions. Writing size represents the difference between inner and outer control of attention.
• Middle area loops and circles
# broadminded, narrowminded, openminded, closedminded
# communicative, uncommunicative, secretive planned, hedges, evasive
# sincere, self-deceit, self-deceit extreme, secretive, secretive extreme, intentional deceit
# worrier, gullible, yielding, biased, placid, mundane unsophisticated
• Lower area loops and circles
# determination, pushing determination, restraining determination, change
# tangible harmonious line values, desire for variety, selectivity, clannish, clannish exclusive, concrete fantasy, requited, regimental, concrete distorted ideas
# lives unto self, isolation, laid-back, foot-tapper
# foresight, tyrant, cynical belligerent
• Upper area loops and circles
# intangible harmonious line values, diversified beliefs, abstract distorted ideas, abstract fantasy, idealism, henotheism, believer
# desire for responsibility, jealousy, rebellious, defiant, persistent
# pride, vanity, independence, dignity, sensitivity to criticism, formality, deliberate, cajole, obstinate
# physicalminded- desire for, skillful, controlled, vigorous, structured, offensive, and unhurried action; argumentative
• Middle area patterns
# thinking process, investigative, analytical, cumulative, comprehensive
# superficial thinking, thinking shortcoming (skips), constructive, engineering awareness
# flexible mentality, diplomacy, self-conscious
# tempo, schedule adherence, intuitive
• Baseline direction and line spacing
# optimism, depression, euphoria, pessimism, steady
# routine, kaleidoscopic nature, versatility, insouciant attitude, suicidal tendency
# clarity of thought, confusion of interest
• Line or stroke quality
# emotional intensity- much available, little available, very active, slightly active, stored
# sensory discrimination- strong, weak
# sensuous, abstemious, sensual, graceful, adaptability to stress
# hesitation, hesitation involuntary, physiological decay, degenerative exhaustion, unscrupulous
• Baseline upstroke slant
# emotional responsive- impulsive, objective detachment, hysteria, withdrawal, stable, changing, split personality
# suppression, repression, inhibited, overbearing, restrictive
• Size and space
# size- concentration, desire for notice
# horizontal space- emotional display, emotional confinement, extravagance, ultraconservative, elbowroom, covetous, detached, intrusive, despondent
# space- ostentatious, self-involvement, frenzy, self-aware, self-liaison, lost of spontaneity
• Stroke finals
# indecisive, decisive, positive, emphatic, blunt, tenacity
# stingy, generosity, showmanship, cautious, cautious chronic, petty, self-reproach, self-castigation
• Initial strokes
# simplicity, direct
# acquisitive, humor, facetious, temper prone, fault finder, resentment, antagonistic
• T-bars and i-dots
# t-bar- will power, purpose, willpower in reserve
# t-bar vertical placement on t-stem- low goals, practical goals, distant goals, visionary goals
# t-bar horizontal placement on t-stem- precision, procrastination, impatience, explosive temper
# t-bar direction- seriousness of purpose, self-control, shallowness of purpose, lackadaisical purpose, forgetful
# sarcasm, domineering, dominating, dictatorial, lighthearted, chides self
# i-dots- attention to details, procrastination, impatience, forgetful
# loyalty, edetic, irritability, idiosyncrasy
• Unique patterns such as capitals, corrections, integrated combinations, signatures, overstrokes
# capitals- egoism, egotism, humility
# aesthetic tastes, cultural refinement, figurehead, picayune, autonomous, artistic independence
# corrections- perfection, pedantic
# structures- -organization ability, fluidity, imagination, sense of proportion
# signatures- persona, image- prominent, private, dynamic, status quo
# self-reliance, venturesome adventuresome
# reaction formation internal- goal inadequacy, bluff, ruminating, hopeful, hopeless, action concern, callous, incoherent
# reaction formation external- broadminded concern, original information concern or skeptic, showmanship concern or showoff, compulsive