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Thread Started by #Anonymous

Dear Experts,

I am working as an AVP at a MNC Bank. I have been subjected to humiliation, mental and sexual harassment from the time I joined. i escalated several times. Due to this, the HR schemed with the senior officials and did an unfair appraisal. I was being forced to either accept the rating or take a showcause.

I was unlawfully confined to a meeting room and threatened for almost 3 hours.

I had to call at 100 to seek help. They let me go subsequently.

I escalated to top most officials. I was told to stay at home till investigations are conducted. I was then called for a meeting. No discussions on the escalation were held but was told that the HR is there is to help. I asked for support in either transfering me or if i have to resign then extend help in extending notice period till i find a job. While it was verbally agreed, they did not commit in written. i documented it, and got a revert through a text message asking me to resign first and then they would review the discussion points.

I was waiting for them to revert. Now all of a sudden i recieved a couriered letter of termination dated 28th feb and it is effective same date.

The contract says tht the company has the right to terminate without assigning a reason, but I have not breached any company policy. In fact I have been a victim all throughout.

Please suggest if i can disagree on the termination and file a legal suit.
4th March 2014 From India, New Delhi
Dear friend,
What has happened with you is quite unfortunate. That these things should happen in MNC exposes their dark underbelly.
As of now what you want from us? In fact AVP is a quite senior position. How come you did not catch the undercurrents of hostility? You may challenge the termination. However, what kind of evidence you have to show that the termination was unfair? Everything depends on the evidence. Contact some good labour lawyer. This is the only suggestion that can be given.
All the best!
Dinesh Divekar
4th March 2014 From India, Bangalore
#Anonymous
Thankyou Sir, for the prompt response. Yes, I did experience the hostility. U fortunately the company has a legacy where a lot of people have been ill treated. In fact there has been a police case by another employee in the past, against the 2 SVPs.

As for evidence, I have the following:

1. All emails to HR minuting the discussions that I had with them or my supervisors.

2. I had a panic attack at work due to the harassment. They rushed me to the hospital. So the medical records of the same.

3. My medical leave letter that they sent due to the above.

4. My mid year appraisal that was decent.

5. They shared the objectives on which the appraisal was to be conducted on the eve of final appraisal. I requested on email that this be discussed as I had no clarity on most objectives.

6. Call at 100 (police helpline) that I made from office premises when they unlawfully confined me.

7. Escalation email to the chairman and other senior officials.

8. Meeting minutes after my discussion with the investigation Team. It is a different thing that they were not acknowledged.

9. Text messages exchanged with the above personnel (He is a SVP HR and was here in Gurgaon to investigate my allegations).

10. My complaint at NCW, dated 7th feb, 2014.

The termination is sudden with no discussion, revert on my requests for support, report on the investigation or warning. This can jeopardise my career and is damaging to my reputation.

I would like to know if i can refuse to accept the termination, asking for reasons for it?

If i file a FIR and sue the company under criminal sections, is my case strings enough?

What labor laws are applicable to me?

Can I sue them for the unfair termination?

Can I demand an apology?

Can I sue them for damages?

What other legal actions can be taken?

Regards
4th March 2014 From India, New Delhi
You can go to court against the MNC Bank contesting your unlawful termination.
Further, you mentioned that you were subjected to sexual harassment. In case you have the proofs, you can file an FIR with the Police under the law against Sexual Harassment and proceed as per law.
However, it will be better if you can seek advise from a Lawyer who will give you an opinion based on the actual documents and facts. As you have made a complaint to NCW, you should also seek the opinion of their experts.
4th March 2014 From India, New Delhi
Firstly u have to go to police station with all these proof.. Better u go with an advocate.
As per my understanding you didn't get any support from the Management side. Better, no need t work with them here after. But u can legally move against the company. So that they may come to ur path.. Because companies dnt want to spoil their Goodwill.
Be Confident
May God guide you in a right path
4th March 2014 From India
Well your case seems very unfortunate. I never heard such extend of hostility from an MNC bank.

reading your case, what I can advise.

Firstly, please check if there are any loopholes from your side (any like performance, behavior, discipline related etc). If your side is clean then you have a case.

what is not clear is, how long did you work there (hope 3 months or more). You have also mentioned sexual harassment but from your claim it is not evident.

Remember, police will do nothing as its a civil matter.

In my opinion, you need to first discuss strongly with your current employer about a descent severance pay & a proper relieving letter.

Also you can ask to justify or give proper reason for the termination, if they don't reply then a RTI can be filed. Although its subjective, your employer can refuse to give reason stating reason as trade secret but it will put pressure on them.

Since its an MNC bank so you can also try reaching to your global HR team. If it is an European bank then Iam sure they would be very sensitive towards employee harassment issues.

Start building a series of communication with your current employer as well as global team. Try to sound professional in your mail communication and be punctual with the regular follow-ups. Iam sure you will not hear a proper acceptable reply from your employer.

In the meantime, consult a lawyer dealing in such employee-dispute related matter. Also go and visit the office of respective labor commissioner in your area.

After you have done all this, you can serve them a legal notice and drag them to court.

But remember (in my view) court will help you get descent compensation but if you have already got the same through your F&F then the whole exercise may not be that productive.

But you can consult a lawyer and examine what you want. Also you can lobby with other employee who had been victim of same exploitative work culture.

Also don't accept the termination, ask for the reason and start following up through mail communication.

In the end, don't loose hope...don't think too much about this episode that you loose sight of your career ahead.
4th March 2014 From India, Delhi
#Anonymous
Dear All,

I sincerely appreciate your responses. It has given me some hope and confidence as I have been extremely distraught due to the whole incident. Below are some more details:

1. It has been a year since I started working here

2. My record has been clean in terms of behavior and discipline or for that matter company policies etc.

3. I escalated to HR when the hostility became unbearable by the department head

4. Bullying has been to the level, that we were asked not to be seen with the friends of our choice

5. The senior VP who started bullying me, has a police against her in the past too of intimidating and torturing another employee. I contacted her but she refused to help.

6. I have records of all the emails that i have written to HR to seek help.

7. I reached out to the chairman and the current CEO at group level who sit of Global HQ but received no response from them.

8. Senior HR in India reached out to me and assured. Proper investigation. But they did not revert with any findings or discuss anything with me.

9. It has been over a month since i had a meeting with them. While they seemed compassionate on the face, they have sent the letter of termination and given me 3 months salary in lieu already. I was entitled to annul bonus in March but due to termination, they have mot given that too.

10. I have spoken to a lawyer but I want to make sure my case has some meat so that it is worth fighting for.

11. Sexual harassment was verbal like asking my age, giving me compliment, getting into my personal life etc by my male boss.

Regards
4th March 2014 From India, New Delhi
Are we not all subjected to unjust,unfair and unreasonable treatments by the persons in authority at one time or other? Depending upon seriousness of the situation we decided either to adapt or quit.The other alternative is to fight.For this alternative one has to assess the probability of success,loss and possible gain.
So far as third alternative is concerned no evidence is absolute.Same facts and law can be interpreted in any way as the justice provider pleases.Therefore,facts and law remaining the same interpretation can be anything as the interpreter lordship pleases.
Therefore, you are the best judge of yourself but if you err you will be ditched and none can help.Best of luck for an error-less decision at this juncture.
5th March 2014 From India, Delhi
Dear Ra_ag,

well it seems you have been a victim of bullying boss. You can surely take-up this matter with the company.

I remember a case, where employees forced HR to either face legal notice or terminate the bullying boss. Finally the boss was transferred.

In your case, the HR seems compassionate & your F&F is already done, so you can decide accordingly as what do you want.

You want to move ahead or want to teach them a lesson.

Your VP boss was a lady and your also faced sexual harassment from your male boss. You would have details of call made to police control room for unethical confinement in the office, if the timing was late then it makes your case even more solid.

You can definitely file a case against your male boss as complementing female colleague etc is a kind a sexual harassment.

You have now nothing to loose, take it strongly with your HR/top leaders. Try to involve other employees who have faced similar problem.

Firstly decide as what you want-

Then try to pool other employee, consult a good advocate, collate all proofs & build your case by sending e-mails to your top bosses, check with your advocate about lodging a complaint for sexual harassment, if that goes through I can assure you your boss will fall on your knees for begging. Try visit the office & meet labor commissioner. Record all your conversation which happens with your employees.

But please pick your battle thoughtfully as what you want.
5th March 2014 From India, Delhi
Dear Rajshree Vohra, It seems you are living in a just world with full of certainties. Does such a just world really exist where people live with their own terms?
5th March 2014 From India, Delhi
Dear Friend, What ever has happened is not very rare, MNC or Local all companies are same. The right step for you now is 1st to test your mind if you are ready to fight the case or you may have to backout. In case if you wish to fight than without wasting time file an FIR and forward a formal complaint to NCW immediately. Contact a good labor Advocate to file a case against the Bank and file a damages suit for the harassment, Lost of reputation, illegally terminating your service, Just remember the terms of your appointment letter that services can be terminated without assigning any reason are not legally valid and does not stand effective in the eyes of Law Courts. I can\'t assure you if you will won this case or not but can assure you if you file this case you can cause an irreparable damage to the reputation of this Company and with the help of NCW you can get far better coverage. Finally the Bank will have to blink and redress their mistake although it will take time. So if you are ready to fight for the dignity than surely you will get the justice. SO CONTACT SOME SENIOR LAWYER AND TAKE HIS ADVISE TO DRAFT FIR/COMPLAINT. wITH BEST WISHES.
5th March 2014 From India, Delhi
Panic Attack....Hospitalization....why you have shown very poor character in front of your juniors also....at this higher level of position...your Sr VP also female employee.....and she also harassed you...we are not sure....is there any loopholes from your side....is this the matter of jealous from your Sr. VP side..since she is also a female employee......and your male boss divert all the concentration on you only.
In fact, in my opinion when you get your F&F...and you face extreme hostility from your seniors...you must forget every thing..and move ahead..since you have to join some where else.....and on this position....your new employer may check your past employment....at least gain a little sympathy from your earlier employer.....if you fall in to litigation..your future prospect will become lower side...other wise you are the better judge of your condition...
Regards,
Manish Bali
Head HR = Jindal grp.
5th March 2014 From India, Delhi
'I can\'t assure you if you will won this case or not but can assure you if you file this case you can cause an irreparable damage to the reputation of this Company and with the help of NCW you can get far better coverage. ""
attribution https://www.citehr.com/486532-mental...#ixzz2v4tiQZSn
Is this a just cause to litigate? Is litigation a priority under the present circumstances?
5th March 2014 From India, Delhi
hi,
well I went through your message, its really painful and more than that disheartening. I would suggest you its a matter of justice. you are nowhere at fault in the first instance and secondly all the officials and HR are together.
Being a HR I am feeling extremely bad and I am stunned at that cunning HR in your bank. well, I would suggest you that even before going to the police station or consulting an advocate talk to your CEO or director. they will certainly help you. look this is a world where people sell their principles for money so here you cannot rely on advocate and police. what if these officials pay them or they have bigger contacts so take help from your director. I am sure you will come out with a solution because this has been a case and only director's are helpful.
Thank you
5th March 2014 From India, Pune
".is this the matter of jealous from your Sr. VP side..since she is also a female employee......and your male boss divert all the concentration on you only.
In fact, in my opinion when you get your F&F...and you face extreme hostility from your seniors
attribution https://www.citehr.com/486532-mental...#ixzz2v5H0IxiU
This expression unveils that seniors can be jealous and hostile as against being just,fair and reasonable.Is there any way out?
5th March 2014 From India, Delhi
hi,
well I went through your message, its really painful and more than that disheartening. I would suggest you its a matter of justice. you are nowhere at fault in the first instance and secondly all the officials and HR are together.
Being a HR I am feeling extremely bad and I am stunned at that cunning HR in your bank. well, I would suggest you that even before going to the police station or consulting an advocate talk to your CEO or director. they will certainly help you. look this is a world where people sell their principles for money, what if these officials pay them or they have bigger contacts so take help from your director. I am sure you will come out with a solution because this has been a case and only director's are helpful. Director is loyal and will think lawfully in this case. Try this and don't lose hope. you will win
Thank you
5th March 2014 From India, Pune
Respected Ms. Poonam and Ms. Ra__aq

She has already wrote that she met CEO and other seniors at Global HQ...and no action has taken from there side.

What benefit she will get...again to meet them...

Secondly...though no advocate has given their comments on this thread..but still I would like to mention ...that asking Age....family back ground....given compliments may not alone stand in court as a sexual harassment....since there is no evidence to prove the real intentions.....

Ms. Ra Aq ....actually what do you want from your life....if you want to go ahead with your career growth ...forget the case etc....and if you want to still in a revenge mood...I think you will more mentally harassment....

FAMILY is also other aspect...what they suggested.....may be you are married....then what your husband will feel about it......

Think every aspect of your life....revenge some time back fire..... acceptance of F&F....will week your case.....

Think your real condition....then only go ahead....

Manish Bali

Head IR/HR --Jindal Group
5th March 2014 From India, Delhi
Secondly ...What I have observed...advise related to FIR....Litigation....fight against that Bank....mostly appreciated by Ra__Aq.....
In that case.....you may be already contacted to some lawyers....what they advised you..... you are already mentally prepared yourself to fight.....
Now ask your close friends and your family ....who knows you better than all of us....
Manish Bali
5th March 2014 From India, Delhi
#Anonymous
Dear All,

I have contacted 3 lawyers to understand my rights more than filing a litigation. My approach with the company officials and seniors was to resolve it amicably. I had asked for a fair way of parting ways and requested for support in looking for another job, since it was not working out for either of us.

On the face they appeared to be helpful, in the last meeting I had with them. But they stabbed me in the back by contradicting the verbal assurance.

Prima facie, I have my ground covered as I met with HR several times.

My future is now jeopardised. They promised they will not do anything that will affect my career but have gone against their words.

Many more people at VP and AVP level have suffered.

If i leave them like this, they will continue to bully people. While my focus is to get on with my life, I will also now fight for my right as I have been victimised and as they say, it is equally wrong to let wrong happen to you.

They can be charged individually in the criminal court and the company can be sued for damages to me in the civil court.

I do not fall in the purview of labor court, so cannot seek help from ther.

And I had filed a complaint against them with NCW too. NCW is taking action.
5th March 2014 From India, New Delhi
Dear Mr. bali,
While I understand what you are saying, I do not think succumbing to pressure has any signs of weakness. In fact it means that one has tried to be strong for too long.
In my circumstances, where there was daily constant politics, keeping me away from meetings, insulting me in public, can affect any normal human being. It is not setting wrong example to anybody. You have no idea to the extent of mental torture and pressure I went through.
There are several more people like me, mostly at AVP and VP level who have gone through similar treatment and have left the job without another job in hand.
The female SVP is an insecure jealous woman who misbehaved with a very nice and respectable SVP. Eventually he left the company and joined elsewhere.
5th March 2014 From India, New Delhi
Adapt,quit or fight. I think Mr. Manish bali's advice is quite balanced.However, it seems that TS is bypassing it.Further, it appears that she is less concerned about her plight and more about the set up which according to her is unjust, unfair and unreasonable She wants to teach them a lesson.Bravo1
However, if she wants to repair the set up she may join forums like Judicial Accountability Committee or Aam Aadmi Party ot she may organize one such forum by herself..
5th March 2014 From India, Delhi
#Anonymous
Dear Dr. Jogeshwar Mahanta,
Sir, what you have said, is practical. Priority should be to protect my future and life.
And that is exactly my concern. To get them to give me a clean relieving letter, and nlt to teach them a lesson.
5th March 2014 From India, New Delhi
Right advice in right time is the best help.Wish you best of luck.
5th March 2014 From India, Delhi
Greetings Anonymous,

Many members have contributed to this thread. Having gone through the discussions I wish to add a few thoughts that lingers in my mind.

a) You have mentioned in your communication that you have communicated by e - mail regarding the discussions you had with your superiors. But we are not clear as to whether they have responded to any of the e - mails.

b) You have stated that you called up 100 from the office and at the instance of the police you were let go from the solitary confinement. Did the police officials make any recording of your statement? In my opinion solitary confinement for 3 hours to force an employee accept an unfair rating does not sound logical.

c) You have indicated that you had a panic attach due to harassment and you were on medical leave due to this. What was mentioned in the summary provided to you by the hospital.

d) It is also unclear as to whether you were trying to expose any dubious transactions at the bank that led you to this situation.

e) Were you asked to resign at some point of time by the management and you refused to resign on your own accord.

f) The company has safeguarded its legal position relating to your termination by giving you 3 months notice pay.

g) The only case that you have against them that the termination is illegal. To prove this you should be sure that all actions taken by you while you were in service were error free and you did not inadvertently sign any document that was not correct. As you have served just one year in the company, something could have eluded your attention and this could have been done deliberately by your employer.

h) The other case you have against them is sexual harassment at workplace. The points stated by you in my opinion may not be worth to fight out. However, a professional lawyer will be able to give you right views.

i) If you are in the early stages of your career, I would recommend that you sort out the matter by discussion rather than taking it head on. This suggestion is because as suggested by yet another member for senior positions previous employment reference is essential.

To summarise take up the matter with the global team, I am sure that such MNC Banks will have a grievance redressal committee. Do a little introspection on TGW & TGR (Things gone wrong and Things gone right) before you take a prudent decision.

Regards
6th March 2014 From India, Madras
M.V.KANNAN What ought to be her objective now? Who are to be trusted? Are they really trustworthy?
6th March 2014 From India, Delhi
Dear Ms Vohra'

You have already done three things Called the Police, wrote to NCW and threatened to file Legal case. You are going on the wrong track and very fast. See whatever you do, dont file a legal case. Just imagine you were an employer and had to settle such a matter. Going to a lawyer is most irresponsible and inciting to a counter legal case.

Just relax and negotiate. I have a piece of advice for you "Those wielding hammers, see every problem as a nail" Implying that almost everyone says go to police, go to lawyer and perhaps to the press and file a sexual harassement case blah blah...when the real matter is ADJUSTMENT issues and perhaps PROMOTIONS...so if you are good, you'll get another job to prove. But a legal case and this policia business will ruin your reputations as an employee. I am not suggesting that you accede to harassment. But driving on the road everyday to office and handling tough customers and doing work --for many many people even this is harassament. So define it very very clearly. Office Politics is NOT harassment, that is for sure.
6th March 2014 From India
Right advice in right time is the best help.What is that? Has it not yet posted?
6th March 2014 From India, Delhi
Actually.....in writing we can not express our real feelings....I, too, have full sympathy with you..and understand your situation....being a female...being a senior most.....what you have faced in your organization......is not very easy for you.... what I would like to explain......that ....what you actually want from your life now......since...if you fight the case and want to settle them....will may ruin your own career.....in that case your org. will not support you in any case...

And....on the other side ....you have very harsh exp. ....and cant faith on their words......you suspect after commitment they may back stab you again....and you might be right on your conclusion.......

see DELAY in this case may be the best and right remedy for you.....

DELAY will heal your wounds as well.....will change mind set for your MNC Bank too.....may be some more employees may change their job......from there......some may understand your feelings....slowly......give some more time to you.....and see the effects......

Regards,

Manish Bali
6th March 2014 From India, Delhi
#Anonymous
Dear Mr. Kannan,

I am a professional with 15 years of impeccable record and have worked with some very good brands.

If i were guilty, I would not be asking for advice in this forum. To answer your questions:

1. I have not done anything that is against the company policy, sharing of confidential data or breach of contract, midconduct etc.

2. My fault was that I was fairly new to the company and did not know that the SVP, who is a lady and is heading the deptt where i worked, was friends with the male SVP of another deptt. In one of the meetings he was cracking jokes and i laughed at those. She asked me to shut up. On which, the SVP said jokingly to her to leave the room. She packed and left fumingly and since then i became the butt of her insult.

3. When it became untolerable, I asked subtly if i could change the department without escalating against her.

4. Fortunately I was moved to another role. But she had her influence there too and made an issue if I sent an email or attended meetings.

5. My new male boss who hates her took advantage and was using the opportunity. He tried to get friendly with me but since I did not trust him, I recorded his conversations.

6. Whenthe above continued for 3 months, I reached out to HR and asked to intervene.

7. HR had a very paternal and condescending attitude. Please note, that these people are very strong and influential in the company and have had a past record of vindictive and torturous behavior. Mostly towards seniors. They want people to just work on their orders. Anyone with a mind of their own are crushed to death.

8. The meetings concluded that my boss was at fault. They now started to create a more hostile environment.

9. I was taken to the hospital by the HR team at work and they granted me leave without my asking for it.

10. The office has such dirty politics that no one person can be trusted. We were 4 friends who joined at the same time. All AVPs. We were asked not to talk to each other or be seen with other. On asking for reasons, nothing was told except that u cannot be talking to same ppl.

11. Since there was nothing against me: my mid year appraisal was good, my communication with peers was fine, and my performance was appreciated. They got picky about my toilet breaks and lunch breaks. Even though i was gng for lunch alone and wud not take more then 15 mins even though the lunch breaks allowed are for 1 hour.

12. On my emails, I did get reverts. Either by accepting a meeting or by saying that investigation would be conducted.

13. I have reached out to all the people in the heirarchy. And all seem to be supporting each other as no action was taken against the culprits. Any good organisation would serve a showcause if thec omplaint was as severe as mine, to the offenders.

14. In my last meeting with the HR teams that was here for investigatinons, I asked for an amicable parting. The investigation team seemed empathatic as they did not find any mistake at my side. They did not say anything about the investigation but tried to talk smoothly. Actually they were being nice on the surface and tried to get me to resign. I only asked for flexibility in notice period and a kind consideration of extending it, in case I do not find a job within 3 moths. Verbally they agreed.

15. I sent the minutes but they did not acknowledge. I was told that he would review and get back.

16. 3 weeks later I recieve a termination with no warning, no discussion etc.

17. Police did not come to the office. But since they were not letting me go home and harassed me to either agree on the unfair rating or accept a showcause, I had to call at 100. They were not letting me take even 1 hour to think on all options. And asked to take a decision there and then.

18. I have not threatened them ever. I have had all meetings asking tl support me even if we were to part ways. I have not sent any legal notice or any such indication that I will go to the court.

19. I have only yet consulted some lawyer friends to ask if this is legal and all I want is a clean relieving letter.

Unfortunately, most of us have our career, future etc to be scared of. That is why we take the torture And resign and move on. And people like these continue to do what they want and get away with even murder. The said female SVP has a police complaint as a record in the past too, by another female employee. The SVP was hidden in the hotel room for 3 days by the HR head! Are these things not shocking. I know for a fact that any lther organisation would have sacked her by now.

Some strange things going on their where everyone is protecting each other's back. And this is a big british bank.
6th March 2014 From India, New Delhi
As described the people who victimized Ts are not only unjust, unfair and unreasonable but also are rouges. So what? Where do you find a just world? Ultimately one arrives at any of these conclusions:adapt or quit or fight. Each has its price.This is the go of the world.
6th March 2014 From India, Delhi
Greetings Madam,

Gone through your detailed response and from the sequence of events mentioned by you, it appears the company is unethical, illogical, not compassionate towards employees working in the organisation. As I have mentioned in my e - mail there is something for them to hush up among few of them and this is probably the reason why they tend to push top people out who do not follow their instructions.

If this is going to be the setup I am sure that we cannot expect them to give you a clean chit as it appears to be a foregone conclusion. The option available is to keep approaching the global team to appraise them of the situation.

As you are a seasoned professional, in my opinion a clean relieving letter for you from a stupid employer will not matter, as your professional experience will fetch you a decent employment, and you will be able to substantiate your stand in case there is a vitiated reference from your past employer.

Your fighting out legally is fine but the objective behind is to get a clean relieving letter. I am not subscribing that the actions of your past employer is right, but however hard you pursue they are not going to change. This view is expressed because you have stated that the lady VP had a police case against her and still continuing in employment.

In my opinion if you try to purify a water polluted with sewage to make it potable it is impractical.

To summarise, I think your professional career is more important than wasting your time to fight a bunch of rogues who are not worth mentioning. My recommendation is to forget the bad impressions you had in your past employment and keep moving on. Your past organisation is an exceptional unprofessional organisation.

Regards
7th March 2014 From India, Madras
#Anonymous
Sir,
The global team is well aware as i have written emails to all top HR heads at HQ level, Group chairman and CEO who sit of london office. They have not even acknowledged the email.
I am not fighting it out. As mentioned, I have not taken any legal action against them.
I have only written an email, saying that I wish to surrender the company assets and would need a confirmation from them on their availability. In return, they would need to provide me with the acknowledgement reciepts and a relieving letter, which is the normal procedure.
Unfortunately, all organisations require the relieving letter from previous employer at the time of joining. No one will give me a chance to explain what had transpired.
Anyways, I am just praying to almighty that I move on graciously as this has been a harrowing experience and I want a normal life.
Regards
7th March 2014 From India, New Delhi
Greetings Madam,

What are the company assets you are referring to? In my opinion it is better that you list the assets held by you and forward these assets by Registered post with acknowledgement due. In the letter you can mention that you have completed the formalities and seek a formal relieving letter.

I do agree that companies do insist on relieving letter at the time of joining.

But look at it positively, if an employer has interviewed you and finds that your professional skills are exceptional, I am sure that he will be considerate enough to waive the formality of a formal relieving letter from your past employer.

A word of caution at this juncture. Do not bad mouth your past employer with your prospective employer as this could prove detrimental, though the exit procedure followed by your past employer was highly unethical.

Consider your brief past experience as a passing cloud.

There are organisations looking for exceptional professionals who are honest, trustworthy and committed to serve them diligently. As you have solid professional experience of almost 15 years and you had never had a poor remark in your previous employments, the last phase will certainly not determine your future career.

As you have mentioned that you have a good performance rating till recently and if you have evidence of it, then this would be sufficient for you to substantiate your view point.

I am sure that you will write back to us very soon stating that you have joined a professional organisation wherein you have a rewarding career.

Looking forward to hearing from you

Regards. All the very best!
7th March 2014 From India, Madras
#Anonymous
Thankyou Mr. Kannan,

For the good wishes.

Apologies for sounding a little abrupt, but not sure if you have worked in private companies or have your own business.

I have worked with 3 employers prior to this and relieving letter is mandatory at the time of joining. It is one of the important documents to be submitted. Other than that a Background verification is conducted by the prospective employer once the job offer is rolled out. One does not mere.y get a job basis once experience and qualification.

Being an experienced professional and with some basic business ethics, I am aware that bad mouthing is deemed as unprofessional and in certain cases illegal for tarnishing the image of an organisation. I would obviously do no such thing.

And on assets, I have the company laptop, ID and access card etc. it cannot be sent by courier as a reciept is required post surrender of these, basis which the finance department does full and final settlement and post that the relieveing letter is issued to the outgoing employee. This is the normal procedure followed by all organisations.
8th March 2014 From India, New Delhi
#Anonymous
And yes, I too hope, I very soon give the good news of getting a good job. Keeping the faith on :)
8th March 2014 From India, New Delhi
Wish you all the best.may God bless you.God helps those who help themselves.
8th March 2014 From India, Delhi
Hi
Gear up yourself. Nothing to worry. Find a new job. but.....hurry up to
Have all documents (emails, phone call details) in hand & file a complaint in Labour Commission seeking compensation.
File a civil suit challenging your termination.
subsequently file a criminal complaint mentioning the name of harasser & officials who failed to take action upon your complaint (with the help of a lawyer), since its a very clear cut direction from supreme court that if a harassment complaint lodged by an employee, the employer should constitute a committee & address the issue, failing which the employer (HR, VP CEO etc.,) is also an offender. The family of harassers will spit on their face
I wish you in advance for winning the case.
13th March 2014 From India, Chennai
I have gone through the thread and have considered all responses. You have a good case.
It is necessary to fight the case, otherwise succumbing to such victimization, emboldens the oppressor and they will continue it with other new victims.
So you are not fighting this injustice just for yourself, but removing this thorn will save others who pass by the same way after you.
Please engage a good lawyer, who can help you initiate a criminal case on them (sexual harassment), and civil case for damages, inculding that for mental agony, caused by unfair termination.
Warm regards.
14th March 2014 From India, Delhi
Dear .............

Went through the complete thread. IMO a legal case can be made out though the Sexual Harassment part is a bit far fetched and should be excluded (just my perception but your lawyers will know better). Again be prepared for a long battle since the company having greater financial power will try to delay the case, prolong it using different tactics and even move higher courts of appeal. But this shouldn't discourage you.

A little bit of human psychology here - People aren't scared when they stand behind the skirts of a big muscled power. No Company is bad because there is no one called the Company, its people who manage them who are either good or bad. The legal suit should cover the company and the people involved separately. This is when, the false confidence of the bigwigs fail. The Company sacked you. Hence, the company is liable to bear out the actions of its decision makers who acted on its behalf. On that note, you could start a appeal in the court of law that till the legal issue is sorted out by the court, the company should hold its senior people who acted on its behalf liable to be produced in court (anytime, even if they leave the services of the company). In that perspective, the employees named in the suit should be prevented/debarred from any separation benefit till the verdict is pronounced since only you and the company are permanent in the case not those who acted on behalf of the company. This will be a good start to the case by your lawyers.

All people except mentally unbalanced or deranged with anger/revenge or has nothing more to lose are scared. You shouldnt be the one to be scared here since those responsible will soon realize that they have more to lose than you. IMO, many of the seniors will change sides just to protect their back when they grilled by a competent lawyer.

Keep up your spirit, keep your patience and be prepared for a long fight which might end years after your retirement age. Truth will prevail. Good Luck.
19th March 2014 From India, Purulia
pls also involve electronic media for this.. u can collect all the proofs and do an fir in the nearby police station of the office. may god help you get justice.
24th March 2014 From India, Mumbai
Dear Lady,
The fact that you wrote to NCW makes me believe that you are a woman. Your SVP is a guy I presume. To cut the long story short file a case of sexual harassment (confining you to a room and you dialling 100 was no king's treatment) against your SVP and certain other staff members including the HR (as he or she was a mute spectator and therefore a party to the offence). Send a good legal notice to the SVP and the CEO of the bank and things will fall in place. Let me assure you the Court sees no seniority in crime against women. Yes, there will be some embarassing questions by the thug of a defence lawyer but be brave and if you have been competent and an achiever do what I have told you to do.
Best wishes with you always,
Saurav Das
5th May 2014 From India, Mumbai
Dear Lady,
The fact that you wrote to NCW makes me believe that you are a woman. Your SVP is a guy I presume. To cut the long story short file a case of sexual harassment (confining you to a room and you dialling 100 was no king's treatment) against your SVP and certain other staff members including the HR (as he or she was a mute spectator and therefore a party to the offence). Send a good legal notice to the SVP and the CEO of the bank and things will fall in place. Let me assure you the Court sees no seniority in crime against women. Yes, there will be some embarassing questions by the thug of a defence lawyer but be brave and if you have been competent and an achiever do what I have told you to do.
Best wishes with you always,
Saurav Das
5th May 2014 From India, Mumbai
Please file a case in labour court against your company.you will get govt lawyer so dont worry about money.
5th May 2014 From India, Mumbai
#Anonymous
Thankyou all for the responses. And those who have been telling me to go to the labor court, I would like to clarify that I do not fall under the purview of the labor court since I was working in the Senior Management category.
6th May 2014 From India, New Delhi
#Anonymous
Yes, I am a lady. I was thinking of taking them to court but my health has been affected and they terminated me. Leaves me with the insecurities of getting a job.
6th May 2014 From India, New Delhi
Please go and first file a complain in your company’s legal team than wait if does’nt happen than you have all the rights to go in labour court..all the best
9th May 2014 From India, Mumbai
My name is Tushar and I am an AM, HR at some publication company.
Well, if I were you I would killed them for that (this is not the HR language) but if somebody disturbing you and I could I sit and watch them enjoying my situation.
Currently I am just using slangs here but not on this platform.
I would suggest you to start emailing to all of your contact about the company name and the employee with the profiles. I think you must have quite good number of email ids personal and corporate, but also do not disclose them about harassment part, bring them to grave. Also, do not hesitate and do not let them slip out of your fist.
Also, consult lady advocate and also let me know if you need any help out there. what is your location?

13th May 2014 From India, Delhi
My name is Tushar and I am an AM, HR at some publication company.
Well, if I were you I would killed them for that (this is not the HR language) but if somebody disturbing you and I could I sit and watch them enjoying my situation.
Currently I am just using slangs here but not on this platform.
I would suggest you to start emailing to all of your contact about the company name and the employee with the profiles. I think you must have quite good number of email ids personal and corporate, but also do not disclose them about harassment part, bring them to grave. Also, do not hesitate and do not let them slip out of your fist.
Also, consult lady advocate and also let me know if you need any help out there. what is your location?
13th May 2014 From India, Delhi
Also, try to contact your employers and record their conversation with you. (Try to make it solid point for yourself) Some manipulation is required as you are mentally harrsed and physically as well. So, take your time think and ACT.
13th May 2014 From India, Delhi
It is the 5th page of the thread. Advices are piled up.But hardly there is relief in view.
The right advice in right time is the best help.What is the best advice here? Since there is no relief in view, perhaps there is no right advice having due regard to the condition of the TS.Right?
27th May 2014 From India, Delhi

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