Skhadir
Strategic Business Management Includes Revenue
Archnahr
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Manohar_hr
Employee Relationship
Milap123
H R Professional
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Dear All,
I joined a construction company 2months before as Manager - HR. There was no HR person in this company before i joined. There is one administration manager who used to handle everything. She wanted to leave this company and resigned also. For her position management recurited me.
Now after i joined she doesnot want to leave. Since she is an old employee management doesnot want to loose her. Now iam sitting here idle without any work. Because accounts people make payroll and admin look after the attendance and other things. She doesnot share anything with me and not allow me to do anything.
I cannot complain anything against her because management believes her so much.what shall i do? I am thinking of the changing the job. since its a propritery type of company i cannot take any decision independantly and iam not learning anything simply wasting my time.
Is it good to change the job now? please guide me.
4th May 2011 From India, Bangalore
Hi Manju,

This is chiranjeevi, I'm also working in the infrastructure company as a Corporate HR. Handling all the corporate Activities. Manju this is a very good opportunity to prove yourself and to enhance your skills. Every coin has two faces here your should feel happy that half of the admin things are handling by some administrator. Many people will say HR job is a routine job doing payrolls,attendance, recruitment and managing people and activities.

But being a HR manager try to concentrate on the core activities of HR don't get into the admin things. It is easy to do all such things and managing the attendance and doing payroll. The process of doing payroll is also differ from company to company and make a note that the payroll has to be prepared by the HR dept and then it should be verified and approved by accounts. Tell your management that the payroll will be done by you. concentrate on the recruitment's, training, performance appraisals, and human resource development and organizational development activities. This will lay a red carpet for your growth don't demotivate yourself. Feel happy that the admin works are not given to you. guide, educate and motivate your subordinate and involve her in this activities too. so she will be obviously listen to you. explain the difference between the admin and HR work and involve her in Hr activities. she will surely listen to you and good to you.

concentrate on the employee welfare and other activities also you can shine. Infrastructure industry is a very good and booming industry and only few industries will support the us to perform and to do something big and innovative in the field of HR. In such industries infrastructure is one of the best.

this is very good opportunity for you to learn and to perform as you said there is no HR person before you. gather all the info about the company, read the HR policies and HR manual and check whether company is following as per the polices are not. maintain MIS reports. There is hell lot of work to do manju. Attendance, payroll and admin works are nothing and if we do that there will not be any growth for us.

Its been 2 months old to this company it is not suggestible for change coz you will get a remark as inconsistent. so pls change your thought of changing the job. I'll help you if you require any help and what to do n how to do.
This is a very good opportunity for you dont miss it.

Feel free to contact me for any help or guidance.reach me at my email id and my contact number is 7206985077.

all the best..
4th May 2011 From India, Hyderabad
Dear Manju,
Very Good reply from Chiranjivi. Please note that HR is not part of Admin or IR. IR & Admn are the part of HR. Please start doing the things other than Admin. likewise HR policy updation, reviewing the present systems, suggesting the improvements, strengthing the HRIS, starting assessment system etc. they will reliase your importance.
With best Wishes
4th May 2011 From India, Vadodara
Dear Chiranjeevi and milap,
Thanks for the valuable sugestion. i know that infrastructure is a blooming industryBut this company doesnot have any policies and Manual. i know that i have to implement everything.
I dont have much experience in all these things. Now i am feeling that i should have joned a company where there is an HR head so that i could learn in his guidance.
Regards,
Manjula
4th May 2011 From India, Bangalore
Hi manjula,
Could you contact me once. I would like to discuss something with you. Don't get tensed manju you in the beginning but surely you gonna succeed in this if you do it as a challenge. I'll support you with all info what are all you required to perform.
4th May 2011 From India, Hyderabad
Dear Manju

this is Ruth

I completely agree with Mr. Chiranjeevi and Milap.

My suggestion is dont try to peep the matter but go in deep than you will come to know what exactly is the HR department.

actually you got a good platform where you can prove yourself what you are and what you can do to the company no matter how big or how small is your position prove yourself, show that Administration is not HR but it is the part of HR.

Try to bring new things every day and every movement, plan yourself daily go through this website you will get almost all answers, there are experts in this website who will help you in all aspects.

Dont worry you will succeed we are here to help you.

go ahead, being as HR you should not hesitate for any change you want to bring.

whatever you want to do, put in front of your boss, explain him so that he feels good and allows you to amend. if not dont worry about rejection however you will learn how to bring rules and changes in the office.

whatever you do you will learn for yourself. dont think about others.

hope we will here from you soon.

Regards,

Ruth
4th May 2011 From India, Kochi
Hey Manjula...
You are so lucky....you have got such good mentors...just look at it girl and see how many people supporting you, now you must muster some courage and start working from today itself.....
And do not worry...you have plenty to do for next few years, just go with the stride and show your true caliber..and make sure you are not competing with anyone but you...
The work this lady is doing has no relation what so ever with core HR, so you have the whole ramp ready for yourself...people are just waiting for performance..and its only you who can show it....
Also, think about it why this time the management hire a HR Manager and not Admin Manager....:) you will get all the answers...
Rest we all are here, specially Chiranjeevi.....
All the best...and eagerly awaiting your first success post.....:)
5th May 2011 From India, Delhi
Hi Manjula,
Please dont think like that you will not able to learn by your own.
I have joined a small software company in June 2010 as a fresher.
There is no HR or any HR things in our company.
My boss have faith in me & told at the time of interview that you have to develope new things.
I am really proud to tell that up till now I have formulated & implemented 18 company Policies with our Director's approval. I have added so much new things in facilities & activities to our company. Today also I am tring to bring new HR Practices in our company.
In all these CITE HR helped me a lot. All the seniors helped me & I got the information within a second on this site.
So dont worry just start your work. Think possitive. Cite HR is with you.
All the Best. :)
5th May 2011 From India, Pune
Hi Manohar,
Good to hear from you. if you dont mind could you share the 18 policies what you've implemented in your company?
So we will also know about it and learn something which we dont know.
waiting for your reply..
5th May 2011 From India, Hyderabad
Hi Chiranjeevi,
Its my pleasure to share the Company Policy List with you and with our HR members.
Please find the following list.
Company Policies:
1. Leave Policies
2. Payment of Bonus policy
3. Working at client site
4. Office dress code
5. Hours of Work
6. Timesheet policies
7. Payroll
8. Email and Internet use policies
9. Software installation policies
10. Confidential Nature of Company Affairs Policy
11. Customer Relations Policy
12. Sexual Harassment Policy
13. Recruitment Policy
14. Quality policy
15. Company Mission statement
16. Company core values
17. Personnel (Employee) Records Policy
18. Performance Appraisals Policy
5th May 2011 From India, Pune
Dear Ms. Manjula

After having spent sufficient time on your query, i understood few things by correlating with your PERCEPTION LEVEL. I may be wrong but, i want you to correct me without any hesitation as this is associated with your FUTURE associated with CAREER

1) Since you haven't disclosed the following information, we don't have much information about the same

1.1) NO. OF YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS HR

1.2) Whether you are a HR GENERALIST or SPECIALIST.

1.3) Your exposure levels about HRM PROCEDURES & PROCESS

2) You said, no one is allowing you to do anything. It means they haven't defined your ROLES & RESPONSIBILITIES

3) I have no idea why do you wish to complaint against. I believe you are aware of TEAM WORK.

4) When it comes to DECISION MAKING, unless you are assigned CLEAR DEFINED ROLES and AUTHORIZE TO MAKE/TAKE INDEPENDENT DECISIONS, you cant even think about it.

5) You wrote "you not learning anything". I believe you are professional but not in a school/college where you can expect someone to educate/teach/train you. You should evaluate yourself and make best of technology to get yourself educated in those areas where you need to more information.

6) Since you are hired as HR MANAGER, you should be aware of ROLES APPLICABLE @ THE MANAGER LEVEL. I believe you should be having minimum 5years of experience and above to handle & deliver the role of a HR MANAGER.

My sincere advice to you is that, if you want to grow in your professional life, please don't compare yourself with others, try to evaluate yourself, based on your skills/talents/specialization, you should openly discuss with your superiors about your strength and services that you can offer on a broader spectrum and get your things.....EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION SKILLS.

CHANGING JOBS WILL NOT SOLVE THE PURPOSE.....SOLVING ISSUES AT CURRENT PLACE WILL DO WONDERS FOR YOU....ONLY IF YOU ARE CAPABLE OF GETTING THINDS DONE BASED ON YOUR SKILLS/TALENT/SPECIALIZATION etc....

Good Luck....

with profound regards




5th May 2011 From India, Chennai
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