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hello everyone
I ma a summer trainee with Aditya Birla Group. My project is on SOP recruitment and selection.I think psychometrics form an important part of it.
I urgently need the questionnaires of FIRO B , MBTI , DISC , 16PF , PPA , PAPI-N , Johari < Belbin team inventory.
pls help.
Regards
Pallavi:cry:
24th May 2008 From India
Dear All,

I have some concerns over this. Bone fide psychometric tests are protected instruments. They should be used by only by those whose credentials and experience allow them to be certified to do adminster them and interpret them.

Furthermore, the tests themselves are the intellectual property of the companies that have developed them and or own the rignts to use them.

Posting the tests in an open forum may be not only of breach of professional ethics; it may represent theft of intellectual property

Lastly the posting of tests where anyone can download them and pass them around compromises the integrity of such instruments.

I would hope that HR professionals would follow international guidelines and protocols for psychometric testing.

While it IS appropriate to direct fellow professionals to the resources by which one can acquire the use of tests ( under specific conditions ); posting the instruments ( if in fact they are the " real" thing) is NOT appropriate

As a certified Level A and B Workplace Assessor by the BPS and one who is also qualified on other instruments by virtue of my clinical psychology degree and approvals from testing vendors in the USA, I feel obliged to tell all of you, this represents very shaky legal and professional ground.

Regards,
26th May 2008 From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
here all the postings doesn't contain the companies info, that is being posted.The members of this site are just sharing their knowledge with their members of this site.
We can get few examples of these tests from few websites.such a type of links or documents are also posted here.so i hope this is not breach of any ethics.
but as you told, we should not share tyhe info of our companies.
thank u.
keep posting.....................

26th May 2008 From India, Hyderabad
"here all the postings doesn't contain the companies info, that is being posted.The members of this site are just sharing their knowledge with their members of this site.
We can get few examples of these tests from few websites.such a type of links or documents are also posted here.so i hope this is not breach of any ethics."
...Sharing knowledge is one thing...shared a copy righted instrument is another.
For example, I am very experienced in using the 15FQ+ ( similiar instrument to the 16PF) and I can post sample report and describe the instruments use. I would never post a copy of the test itself; neither would the test provider.
Test provider website, to the best of my knowledge, do not post the instruments, maybe a few samples questions, but not the instrument
Regards
26th May 2008 From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
k..i hve some =)
26th May 2008 From India, Mumbai

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I do agree to the fact that these tests have to be handled by trained professionals. further since they may be copyright protected the contents are not to be used. Reviewing them is a must!!!!:icon5:
28th May 2008 From India, Mumbai
Dear Pallavi
Have you read and understood some of these tests? Have you undergone some of tehse?
Just by collecting these questionnaires what can you do?
You need the key
You can get the key as well But my advice would be to get trained in these instruments correctly
Siva
28th May 2008 From India, Chennai
Hello, again

Indeed, to apprpropriately use, interpret and apply results of psychometric instruments, one requires appropriate training. Once againm I will remind the Cite HR participants, that the use of tools in a manner inconsistent with testing protocols is a questionable practice.

Of course, I realise that some will say, but training is expensive and buying the tools ( instead of sharing copyrighted materials) is costly.

However, you as a PROFESSIONAL have an obligation to do the right thing. The ends do not justify the means, in my humble opinion.

Test developers, and workplace assessors spend time and consideral resources to develop their expertise. Futhermore, you do your employees an injustice to use tools that you are not familiar with.

As far as what do the "letters" for the MBTI mean... I suggest you do your homework and read. Sorry if I sound harsh, but as we all now, HR gets a bad reputation when we act in ways that suggest, anyone can perform well in HR by gathering a few tools and using them in a haphazard way. If we are calling ourselves " professional' that we need to abide by the code of ethics and body of knowledge generally accepted as one the pillars of a professional role

For information on the MBTI...

Myers-Briggs Type Indicator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regards,
28th May 2008 From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
ESTJ - Extraversion, Sensing, Thinking, Judging
INFP - Introversion, iNtuition, Feeling, Perceiving
29th May 2008 From India, Hyderabad
Quite agree with the unnamed author. Issues of copyright violation would implicate Citehr as well, if the attachements are not removed.
Kunjuvareed

29th May 2008 From India, Madras
hi there this is nikita. i m having my summer training on the topic "ROLE OF PSYCHOMETRIC TEST IN POTENTIAL ASSESSMENT".. can anybody help me out in each and evry findings specialy the questionnaire which can b work as a tool in the organisation where im working for assessing the potential. and also the exact data of those companies using this test in either recruitment, or in promotions or for training and developement in india itself. and also the name of the companies.. i hope i get the exact things which i want to. :confused:
29th May 2008 From India, Calcutta
Dear fellow Citehr Members
"Bruncha" has a very valid point. We as enforcers of "the Code of conduct and business ethics" in our organizations should refrain form induldging in these acts ourselves :!:
Secondly, Researchers and pros who invest time and efforts in formulating these tests do deserve due respect. One cannot just pick formats up and interpret it as desired. These are time tested scietific tests with proven applicability if used in the prescribed manner only.
A plea to the moderator for this section, please remove those tests from the site.
And then again, half information (no keys to these test) is as good as no information.
29th May 2008 From India, Pune
Hi, I believe this will at least throw some light on MBTI model. if you are new to the subject then its a good introduction. Resource : from a psychology website.
30th May 2008 From India, Madras

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Hi, I have attached an overview of DISC.. There is another psychometric test called axiology which is more detailed and also chalks out a development plan according to the results.
30th May 2008 From India, New Delhi

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i do totally agree with Bruncha, as only a certified psychometric assessors should be allowed to administer assessments and give feedback on reports, as with regards to the questionnaires, even if you have them and see them, but without the Algorithm or the keys they will not be of benefit to anyone, most of these tools can only be scored online, so good luick, but i do not believe that we should support copyright infringement.
30th May 2008 From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
Hi Pallavi, I have the ppt on FIRO-B. Hope that will help u. Rgds, Ipsa
30th May 2008 From India, Mumbai

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Hi!
beside copyright and legal issues, there is another important issue that is external validity of the test. all the above mentioned tests are western psychometric tests, we can not blindly follow them in India, we have to ensure that they are equally useful and valid for our population. otherwise pssychometric tests will lose its importance. it would be better if devise our own tools depending on our needs.
Ghazi Shahnawaz
30th May 2008 From India, Delhi
Hi all,
Good morning to everybody!
To overcome all these issues, can we organize a seminar/contact class like for the benefit of citehr members (may be a day long) in a common platform on paid basis incorporating the tailor-made (which suits to our population) inputs and mechanism?
Pl. throw some more lights on this seminar and I request the citehr coordinators to take some initiative so as to display the date, time and venue & charges in website as well as they can send to respective e-mail ids of every member who shows interest.
Definitely I am willing to attend and gain something.
Thanks & regards,
Nagarjan.E
HR Manager
Apollo Furnsys Pvt. Ltd.

31st May 2008 From India, Madras
Hi Pallavi,
Allthe tests you have asked for are not meant for selection.
Most of them IPR protected and hence leggaly you cannot use it unless you procure them from an authorised distributor after getting certified to use them.
I fully endorse Bruncha's view as I too am BPS level A&B qualified.
Now to help you achieve your task ethically, pls attend a certification program organized by Welcome to HRAnexi.com in Mumbai 12-14 June and use 15FQ+, OIP, OPP etc
Best regards,
Jo
31st May 2008 From India, Bangalore
Dear fellow Citehr Members
I am a psychologist and have worked in the field of developing, interpreting and administering psychometric tests for a belgium based company. It is not a joke to do this job, one can do real harm to the individual or organization if you are not trained to interpret and write reports, it must be taken seriously.
These tests can be used for educational and research purpose with prior permission of the test developer. but for commercial use one have to get trained and pay the concern person.
"Bruncha" has a very valid point. We as enforcers of "the Code of conduct and business ethics" in our organizations should refrain form induldging in these acts ourselves :!:
Secondly, Researchers and pros who invest time and efforts in formulating these tests do deserve due respect. One cannot just pick formats up and interpret it as desired. These are time tested scietific tests with proven applicability if used in the prescribed manner only.
:icon1:
1st June 2008 From India, Madras
hey pple....mr murthy,..i cannot find any attachment at ur end.... Further it shALL be kind of you o post further test questionnaires as well..i really need the..
1st June 2008 From India
I would again want to tell here that those questionnaires are purely meant for academic purposes so pl help me...they shall form part of my report submissions..i know they are analyzed by qualified personnels..
thank u
1st June 2008 From India
Hi,
I am free lance trainer and today i looged after a while and happended to read your mail. Honestly we keep looking for such great tests but as you rightly said they are not easily available and expensive too. And at times you succumb to attractions.
You have put ethics back into the frontyrad and I truly apprciate you for doing so.
Also in case you have any information as to where these certification programmes are conducted in India, please do let me know.
Thanking you and regards
Shilpa
1st June 2008
Nikki Thanx But how do u rate or come about with the correct answers of a person by administering this test Vijay
2nd June 2008 From India, New Delhi
:huh: Nikki Thanx But how do u rate or come about with the correct answers of a person by administering this test Vijay
2nd June 2008 From India, New Delhi
Dear All,
There are no "right" or "wrong" answers in the MBTI. It places the respondent in one of 16 "types" , each having specfic dharacteristics, which then may be relevant to career choice or job role.
However, this a scoring template required, and thats why one has to be trained on the use of the test.
i previously posted a sight where you can get more detail on the test.
If this is just academic exercise, then you could probably take a web based version of the test that I have seen circulated ( can not vouch for validity however) and discuss it in your paper based on other info you acquire in your readiing.
If you are trying to administer the test to employees and/or recruits without the proper training, thats another thing, and as I have said previously that is not a good practice, and I can not support it
Regards,
Bruncha
2nd June 2008 From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
Dear Naadirah
Thank you for agreeing to some of my views "word for word" :)
However, no offense meant here, I find it interesting that a person who has worked on "developing, interpreting and administering psychometric tests", can take a stand against misuse of these tests and ask for the keys to the questionnaires in the same thread!
Cheers;)
2nd June 2008 From India, Pune
Though not a very old user of citehr, i would like to extend support to what Bruncha has pointed out and many others have supported. being a psychology student and an aspirant of HR, i would like to reiterate not only the copyright violation involved here, but also the importance of trained professionals to administer and interpret psychometric tests.
2nd June 2008 From India, Ghaziabad
Dear Colleagues,
to cut the parade short, for you to be able to get your academic report done, i would reccommend that you should contact the representatives of the prominent Psychometric firms, like Profiles International, SHL, Genesys, Psytech, Predictive Index and try to get one of them to sponsor your research IE. Supply you with questionnaires as a pilot project and score them for you and as well they could help you by sending a deligate tohelpyou with the feedback sessions to the candidates and to the company, i guess someone would sponsor that initiative especially if you could highlight the what's in it for them, so people let me just highlight a point previously all of us including myself have just thrown comments on a matter where a colleague needed help and only a few of us suggetsed solutions, so guys i guess that the thing that should happen is not parading of qualifications, but supply of solutions!!!!
Cheers!
2nd June 2008 From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
Dear All, Please help. I wish to draft Succession Policy and implement the same for my company. Can anyone post it on citehr. It would be a great help. Thanks and regards.
3rd June 2008
I urgently need the questionnaires of FIRO B , MBTI , DISC , 16PF , PPA , PAPI-N , Johari < Belbin team inventory....my mail id is
PLEASE HELP ME OUT with it...
3rd June 2008 From India
Dear All,
If you want to try out JTI a modern alternative to MBTI and 15FQ+ please send me a mail to from your official id.
I can open a 360 degree feedback account also for your trial in your official account.
I am attaching more details about our assessment services.
If you wan to access our tests pls attend a 3 day acrreditation program.
Ask me for more details.
Jo
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9th June 2008 From India, Bangalore
SENSING - INTUITUION (N) THINKING – FEELING EXTROVERSION-INTROVERSION JUDGING – PERCEIVING This is what E...I...S..N..J..P....STANDS FOR ANY FURTHER HELP
10th June 2008 From India
Hello Members, One needs to be trained thoroughly before administering any sort of psychometric tests. It will help you to get appropriate results and mesaure them accordingly. Regards, SD
26th October 2012 From India, Mumbai
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