Difference between employee engagement and employee involment
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hi my dear respectable ones!!!! I need to know the difference between employee engagement and employee involvement.. can anyone help me ?

aakash.saxena - Member Since: Nov 2007
Firstly both Job engagment and Job involvement is not the same thing. In Job engagement, one is just doing or completing the assigned task / job. Whereas in Job involvement comes after job engagement. Job Involvement can be determined from the degree of satisfaction of an employee on a job. We can call it as " Self Actualisation", where one is workig fullest to his potentials. Thus It is crucial to have involvement above engagement for the success of an individual employee and the company as well.

Cheers!
Akash Saxena

nashbramhall - Member Since: Feb 2008
Hi,

Many times people use these terms interchangeably.

You can access a free E-book on Employee engagement at http://www.davidzinger.com/wp-conten...ement-keys.pdf

Also articles at
Help People Thrive at Work: Encourage Employee Involvement and Employee Engagement

both found at Google

Have a nice day.

Simhan
A retired academic in UK

Kesava Pillai - Member Since: Dec 2009
Dear Sanjay,

It is not difficult to understand the difference.

You assign an employee for a job -he is assigned but not engaged. If he is seen all the time attending to the assigned job he is engaged all the while irrespective of the result. It is fine if he does the job just as instructed and you see him engaged. He may be cursing, finding lame excuses not to complete the task, giving you all the headache yet physically present all the time; he is still engaged.

You assign a job to an employee. He puts his soul on the job; seeks pleasure in doing it, takes pride in his performance, and derives satisfaction in doing it - he is involved.

Example: A group leader was asked this question in an interview for his promotion to asst. supervisor.


Question: How much time it will take for an employee to remove one of the aircraft tyres and refit it?

The answer was “If he wants to do it; may just take less than two hours but if he doesn’t want to do it; will not be done even in two days sir.” He was promoted.

In first case the employee will be involved where as in the second case the employee will be engaged . Success of a supervisor is in getting the employees involved not just keeping them engaged.

If you are still not clear I will make it easy for you this way:

On seeing a rabbit a hunter shouted at his dog to catch it. The dog chased the rabbit but failed. While returning to the master with its head hanging low another dog who witnessed this show asked our dog, “Could you not even catch a rabbit”.

It replied “that rabbit was running for its life where as I was running just to please my master”

It is involvement in the case of rabbit and engagement in the case of the dog..

Still have doubt then only read this and I can not go any further.

Few girls were chatting in a park – of course not in India but USA. One had a question to all – “what is the difference between like and love”

The answer given by the knotty girl was “If I like him I permit him, if I love him I help him“

In the case of like it is engagement and in the case of love it is involvement

This is true in the case of your question”difference between employee engagement and employee involvement”.

Please bear with me for I found it easy this way.

I am sure you will never have another doubt in this matter.

Kesava Pillai

nuways - Member Since: May 2010
Dear Mr.Pillai,

The way you have expressed it it is just super. No fragments of doubt remains.

I like that expression " If I like him I permit him, and if I love him I help him"

To understand the difference between engaging and involving I am sure there is no other example.

Can I expect more please.

Nuways

nashbramhall - Member Since: Feb 2008
Dear Kesava, An excellent explanation with examples that does not seem to have been plagiarised. I really appreciate the exposition of knowledge and the effort. Have a nice weekend. Simhan

piyalichakraborti - Member Since: Oct 2009
Hello everybody,

I need to want to what is employee engagement and what is employee involvement? what are differnce between personal management and human resuorce management? How I recrute the candidate for job?


I waitting your reply
thank u

Kesava Pillai - Member Since: Dec 2009
Dear Mr.Simhan,

Thanks for reading my posting and for your kind response.

We should be able to convince the one who raised the question. I am waiting for the response from the Sanjay who raised the question.

What we need is that the questioner should get a satisfactory answer.

Did he ?

Regards,

Kesava Pillai

Kesava Pillai - Member Since: Dec 2009
Dear piyalichakraborthy,

I write here only on first part of the question "difference between employee engagement and employee involvement"

Recently Sanjayp7280 raised the same question just few days back. I am sure you raised it now only because you have not gone through it even for once. Any way I repeat the same for your sake.

It is not difficult to understand the difference.

You assign an employee for a job -he is assigned but not engaged. If he is seen all the time attending to the assigned job he is engaged all the while irrespective of the result. It is fine if he does the job just as instructed and you see him engaged. He may be cursing, finding lame excuses not to complete the task, giving you all the headache yet physically present all the time; he is still engaged.

You assign a job to an employee. He puts his soul on the job; seeks pleasure in doing it, takes pride in his performance, and derives satisfaction in doing it - he is involved.

Example: A group leader was asked this question in an interview for his promotion to asst. supervisor.


Question: How much time it will take for an employee to remove one of the aircraft tyres and refit it?

The answer was “If he wants to do it; may just take less than two hours but if he doesn’t want to do it; will not be done even in two days sir.” He was promoted.

In first case the employee will be involved where as in the second case the employee will be engaged . Success of a supervisor is in getting the employees involved not just keeping them engaged.

If you are still not clear I will make it easy for you this way:

On seeing a rabbit a hunter shouted at his dog to catch it. The dog chased the rabbit but failed. While returning to the master with its head hanging low another dog who witnessed this show asked our dog, “Could you not even catch a rabbit”.

It replied “that rabbit was running for its life where as I was running just to please my master”

It is involvement in the case of rabbit and engagement in the case of the dog..

Still have doubt then only read this and I can not go any further.

Few girls were chatting in a park – of course not in India but USA. One had a question to all – “what is the difference between like and love”

The answer given by the knotty girl was “If I like him I permit him, if I love him I help him“

In the case of like it is engagement and in the case of love it is involvement

This is true in the case of your question”difference between employee engagement and employee involvement”.

Please bear with me for I found it easy this way.

I am sure you will never have another doubt in this matter.

Regards,
Kesava Pillai


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nashbramhall - Member Since: Feb 2008
Dear Kesava,

Many times the person that has raised the question does not seem to visit the site or respond. That should not worry us, as others may also benefit (as seen from responses for this thread).

Have a nice day.

Simhan


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