I want to know if giving PF is mandatory, we have 25 employees all drawing around 8-10000 salary. Do we have to apply for PF and if so, how much do we need to pay from employer and employee side.
From India, Bangalore
From India, Bangalore
If your establishment employs 25 (20 or more) employees, your establishment will be covered by EPF. You have to register your establishment for PF. However, since all employees are paid a salary of more than Rs 6500, no employee will be covered. Please ensure that your Office Attender(s) and Sweeper, who are on your payroll, are also receiving a salary above Rs 6500.
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Dear Sameer,
As you inform employees that the number is more than 25, your organization will come under the PF. Now, you have to register under the PF act, and PF will be calculated on Basic+DA. If Basic+DA exceeds 6500/, the excess amount will be left to the employee.
From:
1) Employee side: 12% EPF A/c No: 1
2) Employer Side: 12%
3) 67% EPF A/c No: 1 & 8.33% Pension A/c No: 10
3) Employer side: 1.61% (charges)
a) EPF Admin Charge: 1.1% A/c No: 2
b) EDLI Charge: 0.5% A/c No: 21
c) Admin charges on EDLI: 0.01% A/c No: 22
Please review and ensure compliance with the PF regulations.
Thank you.
From India
As you inform employees that the number is more than 25, your organization will come under the PF. Now, you have to register under the PF act, and PF will be calculated on Basic+DA. If Basic+DA exceeds 6500/, the excess amount will be left to the employee.
From:
1) Employee side: 12% EPF A/c No: 1
2) Employer Side: 12%
3) 67% EPF A/c No: 1 & 8.33% Pension A/c No: 10
3) Employer side: 1.61% (charges)
a) EPF Admin Charge: 1.1% A/c No: 2
b) EDLI Charge: 0.5% A/c No: 21
c) Admin charges on EDLI: 0.01% A/c No: 22
Please review and ensure compliance with the PF regulations.
Thank you.
From India
Hi,
In this situation, you must consider one more thing. If any of the employees working in your establishment is from another organization and has an EPF Number, then you must join them under the EPF Act irrespective of their wages. In this case, you can limit your contribution to Rs. 6500/-
Jishnu V. Nair Tax & EPF Consultant Kerala
From India, Thiruvananthapuram
In this situation, you must consider one more thing. If any of the employees working in your establishment is from another organization and has an EPF Number, then you must join them under the EPF Act irrespective of their wages. In this case, you can limit your contribution to Rs. 6500/-
Jishnu V. Nair Tax & EPF Consultant Kerala
From India, Thiruvananthapuram
dear if you have 25 employee than u have to take PF code and PF U CAN DEPOSIT FOR THE EMPLOYEE WHOSE BASIC LESS THAN 6500 REST OTHER MAY BE EXEMPTED EMPLOYEE. TKS JS MALIK
From India, Delhi
From India, Delhi
A question to Mr. Madhu and Mr. Malik, Once anyone become a member of PF; can he/she get exempted status in the future while shifting one job to other with gap of two months? Pl. suggest. Pravin
From India, Pune
From India, Pune
Dear,
When a person joins a new organization, the HR department of that organization takes Form 11 from each employee, which states that the employee was not a member of the PF in the previous organization. Legally, if you have not withdrawn the PF from your previous employment, then you should be a member of the PF in the future organization as well. However, generally, new organizations take Form 11 from employees and do not enroll them if their basic salary is more than 6500.
Thank you,
J. S. Malik
From India, Delhi
When a person joins a new organization, the HR department of that organization takes Form 11 from each employee, which states that the employee was not a member of the PF in the previous organization. Legally, if you have not withdrawn the PF from your previous employment, then you should be a member of the PF in the future organization as well. However, generally, new organizations take Form 11 from employees and do not enroll them if their basic salary is more than 6500.
Thank you,
J. S. Malik
From India, Delhi
Dear Friends,
All of you are correct. However, employees whose salaries are more than Rs. 6500/- can also join as PF members, but their contributions may be stipulated into two accounts. Some organizations deduct PF @ Rs. 780/- from the salaries of employees earning more than Rs. 6500/- and deposit it into PF. In such cases, in Form-3A, they should clearly state at the bottom: "EXEMPTED EMPLOYEE SO PF IS CALCULATING @ Rs. 6500/- ONLY." PF is a social security benefit for employees that every employer should consider.
Regards,
PBS KUMAR
From India, Kakinada
All of you are correct. However, employees whose salaries are more than Rs. 6500/- can also join as PF members, but their contributions may be stipulated into two accounts. Some organizations deduct PF @ Rs. 780/- from the salaries of employees earning more than Rs. 6500/- and deposit it into PF. In such cases, in Form-3A, they should clearly state at the bottom: "EXEMPTED EMPLOYEE SO PF IS CALCULATING @ Rs. 6500/- ONLY." PF is a social security benefit for employees that every employer should consider.
Regards,
PBS KUMAR
From India, Kakinada
Dear Pravin,
In the future, if an employee gets a job with a two-month gap between the old one and the new one, it will not continue the same, but his salary will be more than 6500/- (BA+DA). If the employee's BA+DA is 6500/-, it will continue the same.
Regards,
Santhosh
From India
In the future, if an employee gets a job with a two-month gap between the old one and the new one, it will not continue the same, but his salary will be more than 6500/- (BA+DA). If the employee's BA+DA is 6500/-, it will continue the same.
Regards,
Santhosh
From India
Dear All,
If an establishment has more than 20 employees, they have to get registered under the PF Act. PF is calculated at 12% of the basic and DA.
If the wage (Basic and DA) is equal to or below 6500, the employer has to contribute the deducted amount.
If the wage (Basic and DA) is above 6500, the employer has the option to pay only 780 and not 12%.
Regards,
Venkatesh
9841160500
From India, Madras
If an establishment has more than 20 employees, they have to get registered under the PF Act. PF is calculated at 12% of the basic and DA.
If the wage (Basic and DA) is equal to or below 6500, the employer has to contribute the deducted amount.
If the wage (Basic and DA) is above 6500, the employer has the option to pay only 780 and not 12%.
Regards,
Venkatesh
9841160500
From India, Madras
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