Dear all,
I hope you all remember the discussion we had a few days back regarding an employee getting pregnant while unmarried. I'm pleased and happy to inform you all that I finally managed to make the employer understand the situation and could retain this employee. She will be considered a normal case and will be respected once back in the office :) .
I personally thank all the members for their valuable suggestions that motivated me to address this issue assertively with my management.
A BIG THANKS to ALL.. :) :)
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2I hope you all remember the discussion we had a few days back regarding an employee getting pregnant while unmarried. I'm pleased and happy to inform you all that I finally managed to make the employer understand the situation and could retain this employee. She will be considered a normal case and will be respected once back in the office :) .
I personally thank all the members for their valuable suggestions that motivated me to address this issue assertively with my management.
A BIG THANKS to ALL.. :) :)
https://www.citehr.com/102874-employ...t-married.html
From Korea
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Congrats Joe on this milestone achievement! A Big pat on your back for making the Management understand your perspective!!!
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Credit goes to you Joe....To your never say die attitude...Keep it up... Congrats to all members...for the result was worth a fight... Regards, Arun
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Very good Joe. It is important to have conviction before you take up any issue. You succeed when you have conviction Siva
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Dear Sir, This is very nice to hear ...........................we will not forgotten, We have to achieve another milstone ahead. Keep taking right dicisions
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your conviction is appreciated. HR managers should have Courage and also the conviction abt the issue they espouse. god job . hasthamivar
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Hi Joes,
You have done a great job, but remember that you have to provide all benefits to her as married employees regarding Maternity benefits, ESIC, and any other policies of your company. Also, take care of all female employees' behavior towards her as she is unmarried and pregnant. You must comply with all necessary formalities regarding benefits as usual.
Best of luck!
Regards,
Sanjay
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You have done a great job, but remember that you have to provide all benefits to her as married employees regarding Maternity benefits, ESIC, and any other policies of your company. Also, take care of all female employees' behavior towards her as she is unmarried and pregnant. You must comply with all necessary formalities regarding benefits as usual.
Best of luck!
Regards,
Sanjay
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Hey Joe, Congrates.............! but also take care of situation in office once she is back...............!
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Joe,
I had been following your last post where you queried on this matter, and people replied with many interesting answers, quite intermittently. I would also like to congratulate you first for yourself being convinced about what was the right thing to do principally and then convincing others in the company. This shows the leadership trait that you have. These small but bold decisions have a big impact on how we make our society and how we view people. Thank you for your contribution in setting an example.
Regards,
Neha
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I had been following your last post where you queried on this matter, and people replied with many interesting answers, quite intermittently. I would also like to congratulate you first for yourself being convinced about what was the right thing to do principally and then convincing others in the company. This shows the leadership trait that you have. These small but bold decisions have a big impact on how we make our society and how we view people. Thank you for your contribution in setting an example.
Regards,
Neha
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I am happy for u and that employee also....and i am more happy to see all the positive comments...
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Well Done!!! Everone must have to Appreciate you, for working in favor of an employees. Pravin Badade
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its really amazing hats off 2 u, 4 handling dis situation it was really a tough task gr888 job Regards Aarti
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Hi Joe, Though i don’t about the case, but after reading your answer i really feel good that there are people like you who respect women and their decisions. Good, i appreciate you.
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Hats off to your spirit and calling a spade a spade. It is very important as personnel managers that we do not just follow the rule book or instructions of the senior management word-for-word, but rather read the emotions of those who depend on us. Thank you for taking a firm stance and not taking the easy way out.
Hats off to you! :icon10:
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Hats off to you! :icon10:
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Good one..this will surely give a positive approach to that laday as well as to the other employers. Good One ...Keep it up. Regards Smriti
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Congratulations, Joe. May God bless you with all the success in all your endeavors. It was an untiring contribution of yours towards retaining this employee and ensuring respect once she resumes her duty after maternity leave.
Great job! Keep it up.
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Great job! Keep it up.
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hi joe, Great News, Very Happy to listen the positive result... Thank you Joe for giving such a wonderful news. Keep moving in the same path. Regards Lavanya.K
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Dear Joe,
You are a true blue-blooded HR professional who has withstood all emotional and logical storms that erupted while handling this issue. Your success will help other HR professionals to wake up from their slumber, and everybody will start serving the HR profession in a respectable way. Thanks for bringing glory to the HR function.
With Regards,
ajsahib
From India, Mumbai
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You are a true blue-blooded HR professional who has withstood all emotional and logical storms that erupted while handling this issue. Your success will help other HR professionals to wake up from their slumber, and everybody will start serving the HR profession in a respectable way. Thanks for bringing glory to the HR function.
With Regards,
ajsahib
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Hi all,
We had an employee who was hired, but right from day one, her work was not satisfactory. After 3 months, her performance appraisal was done, and she was asked to leave as there was no improvement. My questions are as follows:
1) She was asked to leave during her probation period.
2) Can she go legal because the management asked her to leave without notice?
3) As per our norms, we pay 30 days of basic salary when terminated by the company. Would this create any problem?
We had also discussed with her that in case she submits her resignation, we would consider that, and the management would inform her that her services are no longer required, and she would get her one month's basic. However, she refused to give in her resignation.
Can someone suggest anything?
Thanks for all the help.
Revina
From India, Hyderabad
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We had an employee who was hired, but right from day one, her work was not satisfactory. After 3 months, her performance appraisal was done, and she was asked to leave as there was no improvement. My questions are as follows:
1) She was asked to leave during her probation period.
2) Can she go legal because the management asked her to leave without notice?
3) As per our norms, we pay 30 days of basic salary when terminated by the company. Would this create any problem?
We had also discussed with her that in case she submits her resignation, we would consider that, and the management would inform her that her services are no longer required, and she would get her one month's basic. However, she refused to give in her resignation.
Can someone suggest anything?
Thanks for all the help.
Revina
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Revina,
You need to refer to the terms and conditions of the offer letter that was given to the employee and which I presume was signed by the employee. I feel we need to pay the salary in lieu of notice (hope it is there in the offer), the company can also reserve the right to pay the salary in lieu of notice if the same is explicitly stated in the offer.
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You need to refer to the terms and conditions of the offer letter that was given to the employee and which I presume was signed by the employee. I feel we need to pay the salary in lieu of notice (hope it is there in the offer), the company can also reserve the right to pay the salary in lieu of notice if the same is explicitly stated in the offer.
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good news. this is a classic example of how to share your problems, consider the opinions to strengthen your views and take decision. nandish
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great jobs, this teaches us that never be demoralised and there is always light at the end of the tunnel. A wonderful lesson for all of us, and a great achievement for you. Keep it up !!!!!! rohit
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Hi Joe,
Please note that Section 5 of the Maternity Benefit Act, 1961 provides conditions for eligibility of benefits, under this unwed mothers are eligible for maternity benefit. This follows pursuit of a case held long time back by a woman employee (not sure if her name is Geetha) vs Neyveli Lignite Corporation, where NLC declined to provide her maternity benefit (including vacation period for delivering child). She moved the organization to court and by the Supreme Court's verdict this benefit is conferred upon unwed mothers as well.
Imagine the plight of the lady who has been fighting for it. I join hands in rejoicing, but I feel sorry for the lady who has to fight the society's harassment and do single parenting. It is still considered a stigma to become a mother before marriage in our society. But, I appreciate her guts.
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Please note that Section 5 of the Maternity Benefit Act, 1961 provides conditions for eligibility of benefits, under this unwed mothers are eligible for maternity benefit. This follows pursuit of a case held long time back by a woman employee (not sure if her name is Geetha) vs Neyveli Lignite Corporation, where NLC declined to provide her maternity benefit (including vacation period for delivering child). She moved the organization to court and by the Supreme Court's verdict this benefit is conferred upon unwed mothers as well.
Imagine the plight of the lady who has been fighting for it. I join hands in rejoicing, but I feel sorry for the lady who has to fight the society's harassment and do single parenting. It is still considered a stigma to become a mother before marriage in our society. But, I appreciate her guts.
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Very good job done... we need to open up our minds and let people manage their private lives by themselves....
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Dear Joe,
I have read through the case history and its reply. Although I also wanted to support you in retaining the employees, it was too late as the discussion was already over. Nevertheless, I am glad to hear that you finally managed to convince the management. Congratulations on all your efforts to truly make them understand the value of human resources.
Regards,
Abhinandan
From India, Lucknow
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I have read through the case history and its reply. Although I also wanted to support you in retaining the employees, it was too late as the discussion was already over. Nevertheless, I am glad to hear that you finally managed to convince the management. Congratulations on all your efforts to truly make them understand the value of human resources.
Regards,
Abhinandan
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towards this issue, i consider this as normal course, since, its indiudiual freedom, also, as per company benefits, we should focus he/she performance in workwise. reyas
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It’s really amazing effort from your side.Hope it is a one of the best achivement in your life. Best Regards Dayakar
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Hi Joe,
Congratulations on a job well done. I appreciate your approach:
- Seeking peer opinions/advice
- Addressing the issue assertively with management
- Implementing the solution.
I also commend your management for rising to the occasion.
Mohan
From India, Bangalore
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Congratulations on a job well done. I appreciate your approach:
- Seeking peer opinions/advice
- Addressing the issue assertively with management
- Implementing the solution.
I also commend your management for rising to the occasion.
Mohan
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Damn good - however you will need to ensure that respect is given - and that will probably be the tough part -
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Hi Joe, Its great to know we still have such people who try and help people to get justice. Great Going Joe. Keep up the good work. CONGRATULATIONS:icon1:
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Great job there are many employers mixing up the personal issues with professional and unaware of humaniterian. I am proud of you. You are lesson to every Employers.
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hi all im working for international call center i have for sales maneger i want 2 go interview 2marrow woud u just help me out what type of ? they will ask me
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Hi Anita,
I liked the way you handled the situation. I believe that the decision to continue a pregnancy should solely be up to the woman, especially when her partner is unsupportive. When she is prepared to take such a significant step, why criticize her for her choice?
I appreciate your supportive approach and guidance in the matter. Keep up the good work!
Regards,
Anita
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I liked the way you handled the situation. I believe that the decision to continue a pregnancy should solely be up to the woman, especially when her partner is unsupportive. When she is prepared to take such a significant step, why criticize her for her choice?
I appreciate your supportive approach and guidance in the matter. Keep up the good work!
Regards,
Anita
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Hi Joe,
CONGRATULATIONS!! This is a very BIG ACHIEVEMENT if we look at the stigmas associated with our Indian society. I would like to thank each one of you who supported Joe to have the basic guts to come out of that stigma themselves and fight for a person you don't know personally. I would also advise you to make sure that the girl is given normal treatment when she rejoins. That's very important. Hats off to you all and that brave girl as well.
From India, Pune
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CONGRATULATIONS!! This is a very BIG ACHIEVEMENT if we look at the stigmas associated with our Indian society. I would like to thank each one of you who supported Joe to have the basic guts to come out of that stigma themselves and fight for a person you don't know personally. I would also advise you to make sure that the girl is given normal treatment when she rejoins. That's very important. Hats off to you all and that brave girl as well.
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Great job done. See, you have filled the lives with eternal happiness of two people out of which one who is innocent and unaware of the happenings and the other who would have been filled with sorrows after the birth of the innocent had you not supported. But now this act will bring new light and joy in their lives. Congratulations.
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