Hi All,
Sorry for the lengthy email. Please help me.
I am working in a pharmaceutical company (X) and have a total experience of 8 years. I attended an interview at another pharma company (Y). I cleared the telephonic rounds (HR and technical) and 20 days ago, I had a direct technical interview. After clearing it, I met the Managing Director (MD) on the same day and also underwent a medical test. Subsequently, HR informed me that I had been selected, and they would send a verification letter to my manager. Once they receive feedback from my manager, they will send the formal offer letter to me.
A few days later, they sent a letter to my manager, stating that I had been selected and requiring some verifications regarding my salary, teamwork, decision-making, etc. My manager responded to this and received a confirmation letter from HR. However, despite this, I have not yet received the offer letter. When I contacted HR, they mentioned that the MD is traveling, so they have put the offer letter on hold and will reach out to me once it is ready. (Others who were selected with me have already received their offer letters.)
The issue I am facing in my current job is that my manager is not assigning any work to me, knowing I have another job offer, which will likely impact my appraisal. I am unsure of what steps to take next, so I kindly request your assistance with this matter.
Thanks in Advance.
From India
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Sorry for the lengthy email. Please help me.
I am working in a pharmaceutical company (X) and have a total experience of 8 years. I attended an interview at another pharma company (Y). I cleared the telephonic rounds (HR and technical) and 20 days ago, I had a direct technical interview. After clearing it, I met the Managing Director (MD) on the same day and also underwent a medical test. Subsequently, HR informed me that I had been selected, and they would send a verification letter to my manager. Once they receive feedback from my manager, they will send the formal offer letter to me.
A few days later, they sent a letter to my manager, stating that I had been selected and requiring some verifications regarding my salary, teamwork, decision-making, etc. My manager responded to this and received a confirmation letter from HR. However, despite this, I have not yet received the offer letter. When I contacted HR, they mentioned that the MD is traveling, so they have put the offer letter on hold and will reach out to me once it is ready. (Others who were selected with me have already received their offer letters.)
The issue I am facing in my current job is that my manager is not assigning any work to me, knowing I have another job offer, which will likely impact my appraisal. I am unsure of what steps to take next, so I kindly request your assistance with this matter.
Thanks in Advance.
From India
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Dear Arun,
Please talk to the HR of the hiring company and explain your situation to them. Request them to at least send a formal email to your personal ID confirming the offer and the date of your joining. If you are genuinely interested in the offer, then inform them that after receiving the email, you plan to submit your resignation.
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Babu
From India, Madras
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86Please talk to the HR of the hiring company and explain your situation to them. Request them to at least send a formal email to your personal ID confirming the offer and the date of your joining. If you are genuinely interested in the offer, then inform them that after receiving the email, you plan to submit your resignation.
Best regards,
Babu
From India, Madras
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Hi Arun!
It clearly says that the company (Y), which sent you a letter stating that they have selected you and need a few verifications like your salary, teamwork, decision-making, etc., did not provide you with an offer letter and date of joining. This clearly indicates that they have cheated you because others who were selected along with you received offer letters. Therefore, there is no doubt that they have kept you on hold, but the situation may be uncertain whether you will be in or out.
As per my advice, inform the manager at the company (X) where you are currently employed about the complete story of what happened and assure him that you are not planning to leave your current job. This way, he can assign you usual work.
Regards,
From India, Hyderabad
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It clearly says that the company (Y), which sent you a letter stating that they have selected you and need a few verifications like your salary, teamwork, decision-making, etc., did not provide you with an offer letter and date of joining. This clearly indicates that they have cheated you because others who were selected along with you received offer letters. Therefore, there is no doubt that they have kept you on hold, but the situation may be uncertain whether you will be in or out.
As per my advice, inform the manager at the company (X) where you are currently employed about the complete story of what happened and assure him that you are not planning to leave your current job. This way, he can assign you usual work.
Regards,
From India, Hyderabad
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Dear Arun,
Babu is right in suggesting that you follow up with the hiring company's HR and have a detailed discussion. I am sensing something fishy here and have my own set of apprehensions. Is it the case that the MD signs all the appointment letters there? I would advise you to check whether the vacancy is still available or if they have already offered it to someone else and are considering you as a backup option. In case the other candidate does not accept the offer, they might consider you. Please investigate these details thoroughly.
Vivek
From India, Mumbai
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Babu is right in suggesting that you follow up with the hiring company's HR and have a detailed discussion. I am sensing something fishy here and have my own set of apprehensions. Is it the case that the MD signs all the appointment letters there? I would advise you to check whether the vacancy is still available or if they have already offered it to someone else and are considering you as a backup option. In case the other candidate does not accept the offer, they might consider you. Please investigate these details thoroughly.
Vivek
From India, Mumbai
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I spoke to HR, and they told me they have put me on hold. In the meantime, my current company is busy with audit preparation. I will talk to my manager about the situation when he is free.
Thanks to all for your suggestions.
From India
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Thanks to all for your suggestions.
From India
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Dear Arun,
Did you submit your notice in the present organization? First of all, confirm with the new company whether the offer has been extended to you. Once the offer is confirmed, you can consider your manager's behavior lightly. If there is no offer, speak with your manager to clarify the continuation of your service.
In my opinion, it is advisable to first confirm with the HR of the new company regarding the time it will take to issue the offer. Based on that information, you can proceed to give your notice. Do not fear, remember you are in HR... ALL IS WELL.
Best Regards,
P. Manoz Kumar
From India, Hyderabad
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Did you submit your notice in the present organization? First of all, confirm with the new company whether the offer has been extended to you. Once the offer is confirmed, you can consider your manager's behavior lightly. If there is no offer, speak with your manager to clarify the continuation of your service.
In my opinion, it is advisable to first confirm with the HR of the new company regarding the time it will take to issue the offer. Based on that information, you can proceed to give your notice. Do not fear, remember you are in HR... ALL IS WELL.
Best Regards,
P. Manoz Kumar
From India, Hyderabad
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Hi Arun,
I can understand what you are going through, and it is evident why your manager is not assigning you any more work due to your verification from the new employer. Just because he became aware of your plan to leave this current job, he is not pleased with you.
Secondly, I don't think your current manager has responded positively to the verification letter sent by the company where you interviewed. It is likely that due to this negative response from your current employer, the officials at Company 'Y' are not giving you a positive or favorable response. I wouldn't say that Company Y has cheated you; this situation arose because of the negative feedback provided by your current manager to them.
Now, the key issue is that you have lost your manager's trust. Please do not be scared or feel bad. I am not saying this to discourage you but to help you face the reality. I have encountered many similar cases and discussions on this problem, and the reaction from current employers is often the same.
To resolve your problem, you should first talk to your current manager and try to convince him by explaining the real situation.
Even though there may not be a need to stay in touch with Company Y anymore because their responses indicate they are not very interested in hiring you, you could still follow up with them. Perhaps there might be some positive news.
I hope you understand my point.
Best of luck.
From India, Gurgaon
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I can understand what you are going through, and it is evident why your manager is not assigning you any more work due to your verification from the new employer. Just because he became aware of your plan to leave this current job, he is not pleased with you.
Secondly, I don't think your current manager has responded positively to the verification letter sent by the company where you interviewed. It is likely that due to this negative response from your current employer, the officials at Company 'Y' are not giving you a positive or favorable response. I wouldn't say that Company Y has cheated you; this situation arose because of the negative feedback provided by your current manager to them.
Now, the key issue is that you have lost your manager's trust. Please do not be scared or feel bad. I am not saying this to discourage you but to help you face the reality. I have encountered many similar cases and discussions on this problem, and the reaction from current employers is often the same.
To resolve your problem, you should first talk to your current manager and try to convince him by explaining the real situation.
Even though there may not be a need to stay in touch with Company Y anymore because their responses indicate they are not very interested in hiring you, you could still follow up with them. Perhaps there might be some positive news.
I hope you understand my point.
Best of luck.
From India, Gurgaon
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Friends, Please read the comments of arun. He stated clearly that the new company has put his offer on hold and it almost says that they have rejected the offer for Arun. - Babu
From India, Madras
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Hi Lucky,
I never said that you were wrong, but indirectly, I was trying to convey to our friend who posted his comments before you that the new company has placed Arun's offer on hold. This means that he has to safeguard his current job and convince his manager. Hope you understood what I said. Good day to you.
- Babu
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I never said that you were wrong, but indirectly, I was trying to convey to our friend who posted his comments before you that the new company has placed Arun's offer on hold. This means that he has to safeguard his current job and convince his manager. Hope you understood what I said. Good day to you.
- Babu
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Hi Arun,
I would advise that you start looking for another job. If your current manager has already given a bad reference, chances are he has also badmouthed you to his circle of colleagues that you are planning to leave. This might be visible in the manner in which other superiors interact with you.
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aan111
From India, New Delhi
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I would advise that you start looking for another job. If your current manager has already given a bad reference, chances are he has also badmouthed you to his circle of colleagues that you are planning to leave. This might be visible in the manner in which other superiors interact with you.
Regards,
aan111
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Please include the name of Company Y and the name of the HR manager so that all members can provide feedback. We will ensure the feedback is constructive and helpful.
It is not standard practice in HR to conduct verification of past employment without first selecting a candidate. If I were in your position, I would be extremely frustrated with the HR processes at Company Y. How could they request verification from my manager before even offering me a position or before I have resigned from Company X? This verification approach by HR is unfair to candidates and needs to be addressed promptly.
It's crucial for HR professionals to consider the impact of their actions on candidates. Verification processes should not cause undue stress or harm to individuals seeking employment opportunities. It's time for HR to reassess their tactics and prioritize the well-being of job seekers.
From India, Madras
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It is not standard practice in HR to conduct verification of past employment without first selecting a candidate. If I were in your position, I would be extremely frustrated with the HR processes at Company Y. How could they request verification from my manager before even offering me a position or before I have resigned from Company X? This verification approach by HR is unfair to candidates and needs to be addressed promptly.
It's crucial for HR professionals to consider the impact of their actions on candidates. Verification processes should not cause undue stress or harm to individuals seeking employment opportunities. It's time for HR to reassess their tactics and prioritize the well-being of job seekers.
From India, Madras
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Job Search Confidentiality and HR Practices
Everybody knows that when someone is looking for a job, they will keep it hidden from their current company. Only after receiving the job offer will they disclose it to their current employer. Knowing this, how can the HR department of Company Y engage in such activities to ruin someone's life? It's horrible.
From India, Madras
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Everybody knows that when someone is looking for a job, they will keep it hidden from their current company. Only after receiving the job offer will they disclose it to their current employer. Knowing this, how can the HR department of Company Y engage in such activities to ruin someone's life? It's horrible.
From India, Madras
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Hey Guys,
Greetings of the day.
It seems we have forgotten our main subject line for discussion. Let me ask Arun first about the progress on this case, as he is the one responsible for taking action.
After receiving suggestions from all of us, Arun, please inform us of your intended course of action. If you have already taken action, please update us on what you have done.
From India, Gurgaon
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Greetings of the day.
It seems we have forgotten our main subject line for discussion. Let me ask Arun first about the progress on this case, as he is the one responsible for taking action.
After receiving suggestions from all of us, Arun, please inform us of your intended course of action. If you have already taken action, please update us on what you have done.
From India, Gurgaon
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Thank you all for your suggestions.
At last, I spoke to my manager, and he showed me the email he had sent to the HR of Y (he has given positive feedback about me). After explaining the situation, he had understood where I am now. The worst part is that he had forwarded my appraisal form to the Head, and it is currently under process. I learned that since I already have a job, he has not recommended me for a promotion, and the recommended increment is low. All my hard work of this past year has gone to waste.
I am planning to speak with the HR of Y and explain the situation and how they have negatively impacted my career. Kindly suggest.
Thanks and Regards,
S. Arunkumar
From India
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At last, I spoke to my manager, and he showed me the email he had sent to the HR of Y (he has given positive feedback about me). After explaining the situation, he had understood where I am now. The worst part is that he had forwarded my appraisal form to the Head, and it is currently under process. I learned that since I already have a job, he has not recommended me for a promotion, and the recommended increment is low. All my hard work of this past year has gone to waste.
I am planning to speak with the HR of Y and explain the situation and how they have negatively impacted my career. Kindly suggest.
Thanks and Regards,
S. Arunkumar
From India
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