Hi, Can anybody plz do explain how pf and esi are handled by an HR and is it necessary for the registered company to be registered with PF schemes.
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hi,
well any organisation where 2 or more employees are
working covered under PF act....as per the rule both
employer n employee contribute to it total contribution is
24% in which 12% contributed by employer n 12% by employee.
ESI ACT
It is applicable to non-seasonal power using factories employing 10 or more persons and non-power using factories employing 20 or more persons.The Scheme has been extended to shops, hotels, restaurants, cinemas including preview theatre, road motor transport undertakings and newspaper establishment employing 20 or more persons.The existing wage-limit for coverage under the Act, is Rs.7500/- per month (with effect from 1.4.2004). Now it is 10000/-
CONTRIBUTION
The employee's contribution rate (w.e.f. 1.1.97) is 1.75% of the wages and that of employer's is 4.75% of the wages paid/payable in respect of the employees in every wage period.
CONTRIBUTION PERIOD AND BENEFIT PERIOD
There are two contribution periods each of six months duration and two corresponding benefit periods also of six months duration as under.
Contribution period
1st April to 30th Sept.
1st Oct. to 31st March
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well any organisation where 2 or more employees are
working covered under PF act....as per the rule both
employer n employee contribute to it total contribution is
24% in which 12% contributed by employer n 12% by employee.
ESI ACT
It is applicable to non-seasonal power using factories employing 10 or more persons and non-power using factories employing 20 or more persons.The Scheme has been extended to shops, hotels, restaurants, cinemas including preview theatre, road motor transport undertakings and newspaper establishment employing 20 or more persons.The existing wage-limit for coverage under the Act, is Rs.7500/- per month (with effect from 1.4.2004). Now it is 10000/-
CONTRIBUTION
The employee's contribution rate (w.e.f. 1.1.97) is 1.75% of the wages and that of employer's is 4.75% of the wages paid/payable in respect of the employees in every wage period.
CONTRIBUTION PERIOD AND BENEFIT PERIOD
There are two contribution periods each of six months duration and two corresponding benefit periods also of six months duration as under.
Contribution period
1st April to 30th Sept.
1st Oct. to 31st March
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Hi Premlatha and Divya Choubey,
The concept of PF and ESI, and the leave policy, have already been discussed in the past. If you can search in the quick search menu for more details.
Divya, I agree with your ESI concept but not with the PF breakdown:
- Employee Contribution: 12% (on basic salary)
- Employer Contribution: 13.61%
- 8.33% Pension fund + 3.67% provident fund
- 1.1% Account No. 2 (PF Salary i.c Basic Salary)
- 0.5% Account No. 21 (PF Salary i.c Basic Salary)
- 0.01% Account No. 22 (PF Salary i.c Basic Salary)
The total amount to be remitted to the PF office is 25.61% on or before the 15th of the next month.
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Kugan Paramasivam
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Divya Choubey
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The concept of PF and ESI, and the leave policy, have already been discussed in the past. If you can search in the quick search menu for more details.
Divya, I agree with your ESI concept but not with the PF breakdown:
- Employee Contribution: 12% (on basic salary)
- Employer Contribution: 13.61%
- 8.33% Pension fund + 3.67% provident fund
- 1.1% Account No. 2 (PF Salary i.c Basic Salary)
- 0.5% Account No. 21 (PF Salary i.c Basic Salary)
- 0.01% Account No. 22 (PF Salary i.c Basic Salary)
The total amount to be remitted to the PF office is 25.61% on or before the 15th of the next month.
Regards,
Kugan Paramasivam
09840485689
Divya Choubey
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Hi Kungan,
Thank you for your reply. However, I still do not understand the following:
From Employer 13.61%:
- 8.33% Pension fund + 3.67% provident fund
- 1.1% Account No 2 (PF Salary inclusive of Basic Salary)
- 0.5% Account No 21 (PF Salary inclusive of Basic Salary)
- 0.01% Account No 22 (PF Salary inclusive of Basic Salary)
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?????
DIVYA...
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Thank you for your reply. However, I still do not understand the following:
From Employer 13.61%:
- 8.33% Pension fund + 3.67% provident fund
- 1.1% Account No 2 (PF Salary inclusive of Basic Salary)
- 0.5% Account No 21 (PF Salary inclusive of Basic Salary)
- 0.01% Account No 22 (PF Salary inclusive of Basic Salary)
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?????
DIVYA...
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hi satya. wat abt .5% i know that goes to link schemes... wat abt other thing.... 1.1%wat all are that means acc 2 ,21,22 wat are that
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I have a question:
Under the EPF Act, the company is supposed to contribute 8.33% of the wages towards the Pension Scheme (out of the total 12% total employers' contribution). Now, this 8.33% is deducted up to the salary of Rs. 6500/- only, even if the salary is more than Rs. 6500/-.
For example:
Employer's salary is Rs. 10000/-; now, on that, 8.33% would be Rs. 833/-; however, the maximum contribution towards the pension scheme would be Rs. 542/- (8.33% of Rs. 6500/-) only.
Why is it so? Is there any provision for this in the act?
Please help me satisfy this query.
Jayesh Naik
Ahmedabad
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Under the EPF Act, the company is supposed to contribute 8.33% of the wages towards the Pension Scheme (out of the total 12% total employers' contribution). Now, this 8.33% is deducted up to the salary of Rs. 6500/- only, even if the salary is more than Rs. 6500/-.
For example:
Employer's salary is Rs. 10000/-; now, on that, 8.33% would be Rs. 833/-; however, the maximum contribution towards the pension scheme would be Rs. 542/- (8.33% of Rs. 6500/-) only.
Why is it so? Is there any provision for this in the act?
Please help me satisfy this query.
Jayesh Naik
Ahmedabad
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Dear Mr. Naik,
As per your query, the PF is payable on Basic+DA and the encashment of EL only, not on the whole salary first.
Now if the Basic + DA of an employee is Rs. 10,000.00, then the deduction shall be as follows:
1. Employee Share @ 12% = Rs. 1,200.00 (Deposit in A/c No.-1)
2. Employer Share @ 8.33% (Maximum up to Rs. 6,500.00) = Rs. 541.00 (Deposit in A/c No.-10)
This is the maximum limit of the amount which goes to the EPF (as the Basic is more than Rs. 6,500.00 in the case as mentioned above).
3. Employer Share @ 3.67% (Difference between 12% - 8.33%) = Rs. 659.00 (Deposit in A/c No.1)
4. Admn Charge payable by the employee on the Total amount i.e. Rs. 10,000.00 @ 1.1% = Rs. 110.00 (Deposit in A/c No.-2)
5. EDLI charges payable by the Employer up to Rs. 6,500.00 @ 0.5% = Rs. 33.00 (Deposit in A/c No-21).
6. Admn. Charges to EDLI @ 0.01% = Rs. 2.00 Minimum.
If you adopted a policy in lieu of EDLI from LIC or anywhere else and got the exemption from the competent authority, then in that case, you do not have to pay the EDLI charges to the PF Department. You have to pay the Admn. Charges to EDLI @ 0.005%.
Thanks and Regards,
Abhishek Sharma
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As per your query, the PF is payable on Basic+DA and the encashment of EL only, not on the whole salary first.
Now if the Basic + DA of an employee is Rs. 10,000.00, then the deduction shall be as follows:
1. Employee Share @ 12% = Rs. 1,200.00 (Deposit in A/c No.-1)
2. Employer Share @ 8.33% (Maximum up to Rs. 6,500.00) = Rs. 541.00 (Deposit in A/c No.-10)
This is the maximum limit of the amount which goes to the EPF (as the Basic is more than Rs. 6,500.00 in the case as mentioned above).
3. Employer Share @ 3.67% (Difference between 12% - 8.33%) = Rs. 659.00 (Deposit in A/c No.1)
4. Admn Charge payable by the employee on the Total amount i.e. Rs. 10,000.00 @ 1.1% = Rs. 110.00 (Deposit in A/c No.-2)
5. EDLI charges payable by the Employer up to Rs. 6,500.00 @ 0.5% = Rs. 33.00 (Deposit in A/c No-21).
6. Admn. Charges to EDLI @ 0.01% = Rs. 2.00 Minimum.
If you adopted a policy in lieu of EDLI from LIC or anywhere else and got the exemption from the competent authority, then in that case, you do not have to pay the EDLI charges to the PF Department. You have to pay the Admn. Charges to EDLI @ 0.005%.
Thanks and Regards,
Abhishek Sharma
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Dear Abhishek,
Thank you for your detailed explanation, but you have not answered my query. What I am asking is, where is the provision in the EPF Act that we have to deduct pension contributions at 8.33% on ₹6500 only and not on any salary in excess of ₹6500? Additionally, why is the maximum amount in the pension fund ₹641?
I hope you now understand my question.
Regards,
Jayesh Naik
From India, Vadodara
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Thank you for your detailed explanation, but you have not answered my query. What I am asking is, where is the provision in the EPF Act that we have to deduct pension contributions at 8.33% on ₹6500 only and not on any salary in excess of ₹6500? Additionally, why is the maximum amount in the pension fund ₹641?
I hope you now understand my question.
Regards,
Jayesh Naik
From India, Vadodara
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Dear Mr. Naik, Thanks for the discussion. You can check this in a Book" WHAT EVERYBODY SHOULD KNOW ABOUT LABOUR LAWS" written by H.L. Kumar. Thnanks and Regards Abhishek Sharma
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