Dear Seniors,
Our application for a Labour Licence has been rejected by the Labour Department. The reason given was incomplete application. Kindly guide me on what steps to take. My management is blaming me, stating that I did not complete the job.
Upon consulting with a friend, he mentioned that I need to visit the Labour Department to meet their requirements, as this is a common practice. However, our company is unwilling to agree to this. Your advice on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
From India, Mumbai
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2584Our application for a Labour Licence has been rejected by the Labour Department. The reason given was incomplete application. Kindly guide me on what steps to take. My management is blaming me, stating that I did not complete the job.
Upon consulting with a friend, he mentioned that I need to visit the Labour Department to meet their requirements, as this is a common practice. However, our company is unwilling to agree to this. Your advice on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
From India, Mumbai
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Dear you have to give clarity on your query .which labour licence.have you applied under contract act. have you done registration before applying labour license under contract act
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Documents Required for Labour License in Gujarat
You must attach the following documents to obtain a Labour License. The list of documents is applicable for Gujarat. You should attach the documents as per your State norms.
1. Application Form in Triplicate
2. Form No. V in original from the Principal Employer
3. Security Deposit challan in original
4. License Fee challan in original
5. List of workers if work is yet to be undertaken OR Attendance Register for the current month if work is already in process
6. Undertaking for deploying 85% State laborers
7. Copy of Work Order issued by the Principal Employer
8. P.F. Registration copy
9. E.S.I. Registration/W.C. policy
10. PAN CARD copy
The above documents are required to be uploaded in Gujarat State since the application is now submitted online. Although it is an online process, we still have to visit the respective Labour office. This is a common practice in every State.
Regards, A. Prakash
From India, Halol
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You must attach the following documents to obtain a Labour License. The list of documents is applicable for Gujarat. You should attach the documents as per your State norms.
1. Application Form in Triplicate
2. Form No. V in original from the Principal Employer
3. Security Deposit challan in original
4. License Fee challan in original
5. List of workers if work is yet to be undertaken OR Attendance Register for the current month if work is already in process
6. Undertaking for deploying 85% State laborers
7. Copy of Work Order issued by the Principal Employer
8. P.F. Registration copy
9. E.S.I. Registration/W.C. policy
10. PAN CARD copy
The above documents are required to be uploaded in Gujarat State since the application is now submitted online. Although it is an online process, we still have to visit the respective Labour office. This is a common practice in every State.
Regards, A. Prakash
From India, Halol
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It is very sad that your application has been rejected through no fault of your own, and you are being blamed by your company. I have experienced a similar situation where the management terminated my employment and resolved the issue with a government officer.
While NAMO aims to keep his departments corruption-free, achieving this goal may not be entirely possible.
Maharashtra Government Labour Department
Your inquiry pertains to the Maharashtra Government Labour Department. The government has taken commendable steps to reduce harassment and corruption within the department by implementing online applications for registration, licensing, renewals, etc. This initiative eliminates the need to physically visit the department for these documents. However, these improvements exist only on paper and are not effectively implemented.
If you submit a query under the Right to Information (RTI) Act, you will likely discover that over 75% of applications are rejected by the department without valid reasons.
In practice, applications are often approved only after personal visits to the department and meeting the demands of the officers, a common practice known to all.
The question that arises is, who is accountable for this situation? The government has taken steps to reduce the need for personal visits to the department, yet the existing reality contradicts this intent.
In case of application rejection, you are required to resubmit it with corrections within sixty days or file an appeal. Remember, the government is your government, chosen by you. You have the right to present your case if you face harassment by any officer appointed by the government, supported by facts and figures.
I hope this response addresses your query.
From India, Mumbai
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While NAMO aims to keep his departments corruption-free, achieving this goal may not be entirely possible.
Maharashtra Government Labour Department
Your inquiry pertains to the Maharashtra Government Labour Department. The government has taken commendable steps to reduce harassment and corruption within the department by implementing online applications for registration, licensing, renewals, etc. This initiative eliminates the need to physically visit the department for these documents. However, these improvements exist only on paper and are not effectively implemented.
If you submit a query under the Right to Information (RTI) Act, you will likely discover that over 75% of applications are rejected by the department without valid reasons.
In practice, applications are often approved only after personal visits to the department and meeting the demands of the officers, a common practice known to all.
The question that arises is, who is accountable for this situation? The government has taken steps to reduce the need for personal visits to the department, yet the existing reality contradicts this intent.
In case of application rejection, you are required to resubmit it with corrections within sixty days or file an appeal. Remember, the government is your government, chosen by you. You have the right to present your case if you face harassment by any officer appointed by the government, supported by facts and figures.
I hope this response addresses your query.
From India, Mumbai
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Dear all,
The query is not clear on which license is rejected, whether it falls under the Contract Labour Act or the Factories Act. Many are sharing their views on presumptions.
Regarding online registrations, it is possible that the applicant has not uploaded the required documents; otherwise, it would not be easy to reject the correct application.
P. K. Sharma
From India, Delhi
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The query is not clear on which license is rejected, whether it falls under the Contract Labour Act or the Factories Act. Many are sharing their views on presumptions.
Regarding online registrations, it is possible that the applicant has not uploaded the required documents; otherwise, it would not be easy to reject the correct application.
P. K. Sharma
From India, Delhi
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Yes, I made a mistake in presuming the query pertained to Maharashtra. However, I faced a similar problem in Maharashtra. I have seen cases in Maharashtra where there is no shortfall in the applications submitted, yet they are rejected. That's why in my earlier post, I mentioned that if you ask a question under RTI, I am sure you will find out that more than 75% of applications are rejected by the department without any valid reason.
When the querist mentioned Labour Licence, it refers to a license under CLRA and not under the Factory Act or any other Act. It is not important which license was rejected in this context.
I hope the readers, including those who participated in this thread, will understand why I have provided this explanation.
From India, Mumbai
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When the querist mentioned Labour Licence, it refers to a license under CLRA and not under the Factory Act or any other Act. It is not important which license was rejected in this context.
I hope the readers, including those who participated in this thread, will understand why I have provided this explanation.
From India, Mumbai
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It appears that you have not done your homework properly. The rejection of your application is on the ground of "incomplete application," meaning you have left some mandatory columns blank such as the name of the manager, the address of the Principal employer, etc. Please keep a careful eye on the monitor while saving the application, as the discrepancy in the application is pointed out. Just try once again by filling all necessary columns, and it will be a hit.
From India, Kolhapur
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From India, Kolhapur
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My post was not addressed to you, but to the starter. When I was writing my post, your posts were not even before me. Actually, I had posted earlier, but my post was published just after yours. So, it looks as if I have replied to you. Please do not misunderstand me.
It is true that the application and all documents must be complete; otherwise, it will not proceed to the payment option. However, there are bugs in the online filling process that can be exploited to fool the system. It may appear that the application is complete, but during physical scrutiny, errors are found.
The rejection status remark is too short for the applicant to understand. They must elaborate on the errors. Merely saying "incomplete application" does not help the applicant solve the issue.
Regards
From India, Kolhapur
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It is true that the application and all documents must be complete; otherwise, it will not proceed to the payment option. However, there are bugs in the online filling process that can be exploited to fool the system. It may appear that the application is complete, but during physical scrutiny, errors are found.
The rejection status remark is too short for the applicant to understand. They must elaborate on the errors. Merely saying "incomplete application" does not help the applicant solve the issue.
Regards
From India, Kolhapur
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I appreciate the posts of Mr. Korgaonkar and other seniors. You cannot be so harsh in telling them they have not done their homework. I am sorry to say that this situation is also present in Karnataka state. Many times, this has happened with us as well.
An Instance of Contract Labor License Renewal
I would like to share an instance that happened with us. We had applied for a contract labor license renewal online. The status showed rejected for an incomplete application. Later, when I contacted the ALC, he asked me to get in touch with a clerk in his office or apply through an agent suggested by him. When I met the clerk, he demanded a sum on behalf of the ALC. When I negotiated with him for 50% of the demand, he just ignored me, telling me to get in touch with an agent who would get the job done.
When I came out of the office and was in the parking lot near my vehicle, a person approached me and gave me his visiting card. That evening, I called him on the mobile. He said he would come to my office the next morning, collect the documents, and get the job done. The next morning, he came to my office and guaranteed me he would get the license within a week. He demanded 30% extra amount than what the ALC's clerk demanded, telling me the extra amount is his fee and the rest goes to the ALC, clerk, and case worker. (This amount is exclusive of Govt. Fee and registration).
This is the status everywhere in Government Departments. To be frank, this is also the situation in the Pollution Control Board.
Thank you.
From India, Bengaluru
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An Instance of Contract Labor License Renewal
I would like to share an instance that happened with us. We had applied for a contract labor license renewal online. The status showed rejected for an incomplete application. Later, when I contacted the ALC, he asked me to get in touch with a clerk in his office or apply through an agent suggested by him. When I met the clerk, he demanded a sum on behalf of the ALC. When I negotiated with him for 50% of the demand, he just ignored me, telling me to get in touch with an agent who would get the job done.
When I came out of the office and was in the parking lot near my vehicle, a person approached me and gave me his visiting card. That evening, I called him on the mobile. He said he would come to my office the next morning, collect the documents, and get the job done. The next morning, he came to my office and guaranteed me he would get the license within a week. He demanded 30% extra amount than what the ALC's clerk demanded, telling me the extra amount is his fee and the rest goes to the ALC, clerk, and case worker. (This amount is exclusive of Govt. Fee and registration).
This is the status everywhere in Government Departments. To be frank, this is also the situation in the Pollution Control Board.
Thank you.
From India, Bengaluru
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Hello,
Please file an RTI application with the department through an advocate, raising appropriate queries for which you need an answer. Upon receipt of the reply, make corrections if needed and file once again. If no correction is needed, then take the copy of the reply along with your application and meet the concerned officer for further clarity.
Thank you,
A&B
From India, Ahmedabad
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Please file an RTI application with the department through an advocate, raising appropriate queries for which you need an answer. Upon receipt of the reply, make corrections if needed and file once again. If no correction is needed, then take the copy of the reply along with your application and meet the concerned officer for further clarity.
Thank you,
A&B
From India, Ahmedabad
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Acknowledging Ground Realities in Bureaucratic Processes
The discussion is enlightening and thought-provoking. However, much as we may find it distasteful, the reality has to be acknowledged. One can't brush everything under the carpet and assume everything is fine in an ideal situation.
I appreciate Koragaonkar ji's comments, and he has taken pains to sensitize the members on the ground realities. As rightly pointed out by him, in the case of e-applications, all the documents need to be uploaded one by one, as per the process laid down.
Moreover, about 75% rejection at the first instance, which is cleared later upon a personal meeting with the officials, doesn't speak well about the bureaucracy and its working. Despite Indian bureaucracy being paid well through subsequent pay commissions, such unethical and corrupt practices should not be allowed to continue. It's the moral duty of all of us, as citizens, to keep on fighting such evil practices to the best of our abilities.
Warm regards.
From India, Delhi
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The discussion is enlightening and thought-provoking. However, much as we may find it distasteful, the reality has to be acknowledged. One can't brush everything under the carpet and assume everything is fine in an ideal situation.
I appreciate Koragaonkar ji's comments, and he has taken pains to sensitize the members on the ground realities. As rightly pointed out by him, in the case of e-applications, all the documents need to be uploaded one by one, as per the process laid down.
Moreover, about 75% rejection at the first instance, which is cleared later upon a personal meeting with the officials, doesn't speak well about the bureaucracy and its working. Despite Indian bureaucracy being paid well through subsequent pay commissions, such unethical and corrupt practices should not be allowed to continue. It's the moral duty of all of us, as citizens, to keep on fighting such evil practices to the best of our abilities.
Warm regards.
From India, Delhi
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Dear Kishor Kulkarni ji,
First rejection of mine for RC under CLRA Act, 1970, Reason - "Incomplete Application", subsequently it has been ratified upon direction given by the Official and uploaded again within "friction of time". It has been rejected citing the same ground "Incomplete Application". It is ridiculous. This shows the unethical practice/approach of the Government Official.
From India, Mumbai
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First rejection of mine for RC under CLRA Act, 1970, Reason - "Incomplete Application", subsequently it has been ratified upon direction given by the Official and uploaded again within "friction of time". It has been rejected citing the same ground "Incomplete Application". It is ridiculous. This shows the unethical practice/approach of the Government Official.
From India, Mumbai
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Same salutation in Delhi also, but there has been a slight improvement after AAP. Now, they are a little bit afraid that someone may listen to a complaint against them. I myself had a lot of trouble in getting a contract labor license in 2014 in the Delhi labor office.
From India, Delhi
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