Dear All,
I want to write the whole story before I conclude my problem and thank everyone who reads this mail. I would expect some replies for sure.
I have been working for a reputed travel firm in Hyderabad. Now the story begins with me attending an interview to this well reputed travel corporate. My first round of interview was completed in 5 minutes and the interviewee confirmed me that I have been selected and will have to go thru normal procedure of second round with head of the Sales and 3rd round with HR. don't ask me how he decided to take me into the system in 5 minutes. I can elaborate that story if someone is interested. Now that I call it a story because this script if made into a film am sure, one would call it the same but than I would say it happened with me and its reality.
I got an offer and I joined with all the hope, good spirits, enthusiasm, force, willingness to work, get myself embedded into the system well. my first impression on this corporate was more like a government “dafter” than a real corporate, my approach to everyone was limited cos of there pessimism which did not helped me understand the process and procedures; however I have to literally prove them to be practical in accepting me. One thing I have to mention is the person (My Boss) who recruited me sits in Bangalore and I am only sales Guy here reporting to him with bunch of idiotic operational staff who are full of egos and double standards.
I some how managed to get close with the Sr.Manager Operations, this guy was having a immense experience in the field and made me understand my responsibilities in the company very clearly, with his support I have started cracking accounts, and then my first six months of honeymoon period was coming to an end but by than I almost established myself in the company. With my well behaving and friendly nature I have made an impression in the peoples mind inside and outside the organization and things were moving fine.
Due to some reason the Sr.Ops Guy has to be transferred to other location, but before he leave... because of the kind of rapport we share , he promised me that he will help me in getting one big account which I was targeting , I thanked him for all the support and he moves on. Meanwhile I was still in the market cracking more accounts, understanding competitions, building relations, gaining more public respect I almost become an entrepreneur myself and driving business as if its my own.. Things were not moving that great but yes there is a medium pace. The factors that also influence the movement were support from the seniors, market volatility, bribe, gifting. Etc. so basically market and support was pathetic to move in fast pace, and we being a reputed firm cannot involve in any unethical things what competition is doing to conquer the market.
Now comes the twist, one fine evening I get a call from this senior Ops guy who is now become GM Ops for the region there, calls me and reminds me his promise , which I used to keep on reminding him whenever I used to call him or lets say follow up with him. He stays that he is keeping his promise by actually getting me this corporate which I was targeting for 15 months, it's a big one, a big company who requested our travel management services proposal. Finally the dream was coming closer, I can see that with kind of rapport our Ops guy share with the Travel Manager in that firm, I have a bright chances to close this account, and meanwhile also want you guys let know that my intro to this TM guy has been done thru phone, and I usually go and meet him give him updates and keep a track of what's happening in his firm. This TM Guy turns out to be a ‘chedi friend' of our ops guy and now the confidence of I getting this account has been doubled. The reason why?? I am the only sales guy in Hyderabad the account (firm) I and our Ops guy were pitching is also in Hyderabad, my Ops guy does not get into sales , all he was doing me was a favor and keeping his promise, his job would be done after introducing me to the TM guy. But he invested more of his time to actually get this company into my kitty. I would have been ever thankful to this guy if things were worked out accordingly.
But they did not……...interval….take a break…………………………...
Welcome back guys!!! Now that I have to keep my Boss in the Loop , about this Firm which we are pitching , I give him a call and explain him , forwarded the relevant email of request for proposal RFP which has been send to the ops guys who has in turn sends to me to take action .
My Boss tone has gone weird and different, he was not happy, I can feel it over the phone, he was restless want to hang the phone down, he wasn't listening to me. All he say “send me the mail and I will look into it and call you back” very firm voice never ever heard it before. I for a second did not understand him at all. I was not concerned about it anyways my concentration is more on the presentation and the proposal which we has a team have to submit in scheduled meeting with corporate.
Now I suddenly started getting to see different side of my boss, he started to ask me all the in and out of the corporate, asked me to put it on mail, all the stupidest questions a boss can ask which would never been answered, he was so adamant that he didn't even gave me a chance to make the presentation, he is taking the ownership of the presentation, I thought may be he want to take this responsibility as a head for south. But even my input to the presentation were not counted, I would have asked him why?? But not now, as the date is coming nearer. I started working on the proposal and send him for approval, my proposal got rejected, infect all the proposal are almost same all we have to do change the commercials, I did not asked him why it got rejected. But the proposal what he made is the same what I have send, but only thing he did is deleted my name and put it has “Hyderabad Sales Team”.
I did not understand that, what he want to prove by this, during these days he asked all the south team for a conference call, usually conference calls happens to be once in fortnight , this was something no one expected. Call began with general updates, individual performances, now it came to me. He is not talking about this corporate at all, he is infact asking me what that I am getting in this month, I said I have some in pipeline ,but I want to know why he is not talking about the one I have been following up from 15 months. He started to argue with me on numbers, shouted in front of everyone in the call, warned me , all of a sudden this behavior was unacceptable , I kept my calm and finally asked him why he is not talking about this account which we are working. He says that there was no effort from my side in bringing this account, it was shocking, I was zapped and could not even digest. Call ended, I felt bad, humiliated, and angry, and I cried alone, started figuring out where I went wrong, I cannot see even a single day he behaved like this with me before. He had always appreciated my work whenever he can , sometimes he use to put me pressure , and being in sales I know how to take pressure. I wanted to call him and fight with him why he has done this to me.
Than my mind started to work super fast towards the future. What implication this would bring to me in future and what has made him behave like this to me. Than questions popped from my mind?
Firstly the Ops guy sitting in some location in different state, irrespective of him being in that position he could have informed the news to my boss or anyone in the south or in that case he could have informed it to his boss. But he gave the information stating that he is full filling his promise to me .this has hurted my boss hard, reason is my boss and the ops guys hail from same state, and the ops guy is also close to my boss. EGO OF MY BOSS HURTED.
He than over reacted to the situation and acted weird, he know that if this sale comes on my name , I will be highlighted thru out pan India, and the account is so big that his eyes were on it even before the time I informed him that this is going to come. May be this is my side of story , I could not understand why he was doing all this , every day he shouting on one or the other reason, instead of supporting and encouraging me he started degrading and demotivating me in front of everyone thru calls.
I have decided that his ego has been deeply wounded, and he cannot understand that even if I get that sale he can grow because I grow. But he wants that sale on his name because he as an individual has a target, and that is where I cannot take it. Now I decided that even if I get that sale he will not appreciate me, instead he will keep blaming me that it's not my effort. I can see my future not that great , I cannot work in this environment anymore, I cannot work here were my efforts are not recognized. I decided to move on and I put down my papers. But before that I want to try my last hope is going to head of sales and request him to interfere in this, but than he was the one who bought my boss into the system and he would obviously have a kind heart for him and he will not prove himself wrong.
Ok Friends Climax Time.
My resignation accepted my boss is one who has to approve with one month of proper notice, but my boss said that he had convinced HR that they will pay all the dues till notice period and informed me that due to the new sales policy no sales guy is supposed to stay for more than a week from the date of resignation and asked me choose a date to leave, I said I can leave the next day as there was some handover work pending, he approved that and now I am writing this email. I got relived from my job yesterday and all the F&F Formalities would be completed ion 45 days from yesterday.
I am sad, feel like cheated, humiliated, degraded, de motivated, and what not. My life is standstill and don't know what to do. I cannot figure out where I went wrong.
Please help me guys, my humble request … do I want to fight back or move on with a positive note.
From India, Mumbai
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14I want to write the whole story before I conclude my problem and thank everyone who reads this mail. I would expect some replies for sure.
I have been working for a reputed travel firm in Hyderabad. Now the story begins with me attending an interview to this well reputed travel corporate. My first round of interview was completed in 5 minutes and the interviewee confirmed me that I have been selected and will have to go thru normal procedure of second round with head of the Sales and 3rd round with HR. don't ask me how he decided to take me into the system in 5 minutes. I can elaborate that story if someone is interested. Now that I call it a story because this script if made into a film am sure, one would call it the same but than I would say it happened with me and its reality.
I got an offer and I joined with all the hope, good spirits, enthusiasm, force, willingness to work, get myself embedded into the system well. my first impression on this corporate was more like a government “dafter” than a real corporate, my approach to everyone was limited cos of there pessimism which did not helped me understand the process and procedures; however I have to literally prove them to be practical in accepting me. One thing I have to mention is the person (My Boss) who recruited me sits in Bangalore and I am only sales Guy here reporting to him with bunch of idiotic operational staff who are full of egos and double standards.
I some how managed to get close with the Sr.Manager Operations, this guy was having a immense experience in the field and made me understand my responsibilities in the company very clearly, with his support I have started cracking accounts, and then my first six months of honeymoon period was coming to an end but by than I almost established myself in the company. With my well behaving and friendly nature I have made an impression in the peoples mind inside and outside the organization and things were moving fine.
Due to some reason the Sr.Ops Guy has to be transferred to other location, but before he leave... because of the kind of rapport we share , he promised me that he will help me in getting one big account which I was targeting , I thanked him for all the support and he moves on. Meanwhile I was still in the market cracking more accounts, understanding competitions, building relations, gaining more public respect I almost become an entrepreneur myself and driving business as if its my own.. Things were not moving that great but yes there is a medium pace. The factors that also influence the movement were support from the seniors, market volatility, bribe, gifting. Etc. so basically market and support was pathetic to move in fast pace, and we being a reputed firm cannot involve in any unethical things what competition is doing to conquer the market.
Now comes the twist, one fine evening I get a call from this senior Ops guy who is now become GM Ops for the region there, calls me and reminds me his promise , which I used to keep on reminding him whenever I used to call him or lets say follow up with him. He stays that he is keeping his promise by actually getting me this corporate which I was targeting for 15 months, it's a big one, a big company who requested our travel management services proposal. Finally the dream was coming closer, I can see that with kind of rapport our Ops guy share with the Travel Manager in that firm, I have a bright chances to close this account, and meanwhile also want you guys let know that my intro to this TM guy has been done thru phone, and I usually go and meet him give him updates and keep a track of what's happening in his firm. This TM Guy turns out to be a ‘chedi friend' of our ops guy and now the confidence of I getting this account has been doubled. The reason why?? I am the only sales guy in Hyderabad the account (firm) I and our Ops guy were pitching is also in Hyderabad, my Ops guy does not get into sales , all he was doing me was a favor and keeping his promise, his job would be done after introducing me to the TM guy. But he invested more of his time to actually get this company into my kitty. I would have been ever thankful to this guy if things were worked out accordingly.
But they did not……...interval….take a break…………………………...
Welcome back guys!!! Now that I have to keep my Boss in the Loop , about this Firm which we are pitching , I give him a call and explain him , forwarded the relevant email of request for proposal RFP which has been send to the ops guys who has in turn sends to me to take action .
My Boss tone has gone weird and different, he was not happy, I can feel it over the phone, he was restless want to hang the phone down, he wasn't listening to me. All he say “send me the mail and I will look into it and call you back” very firm voice never ever heard it before. I for a second did not understand him at all. I was not concerned about it anyways my concentration is more on the presentation and the proposal which we has a team have to submit in scheduled meeting with corporate.
Now I suddenly started getting to see different side of my boss, he started to ask me all the in and out of the corporate, asked me to put it on mail, all the stupidest questions a boss can ask which would never been answered, he was so adamant that he didn't even gave me a chance to make the presentation, he is taking the ownership of the presentation, I thought may be he want to take this responsibility as a head for south. But even my input to the presentation were not counted, I would have asked him why?? But not now, as the date is coming nearer. I started working on the proposal and send him for approval, my proposal got rejected, infect all the proposal are almost same all we have to do change the commercials, I did not asked him why it got rejected. But the proposal what he made is the same what I have send, but only thing he did is deleted my name and put it has “Hyderabad Sales Team”.
I did not understand that, what he want to prove by this, during these days he asked all the south team for a conference call, usually conference calls happens to be once in fortnight , this was something no one expected. Call began with general updates, individual performances, now it came to me. He is not talking about this corporate at all, he is infact asking me what that I am getting in this month, I said I have some in pipeline ,but I want to know why he is not talking about the one I have been following up from 15 months. He started to argue with me on numbers, shouted in front of everyone in the call, warned me , all of a sudden this behavior was unacceptable , I kept my calm and finally asked him why he is not talking about this account which we are working. He says that there was no effort from my side in bringing this account, it was shocking, I was zapped and could not even digest. Call ended, I felt bad, humiliated, and angry, and I cried alone, started figuring out where I went wrong, I cannot see even a single day he behaved like this with me before. He had always appreciated my work whenever he can , sometimes he use to put me pressure , and being in sales I know how to take pressure. I wanted to call him and fight with him why he has done this to me.
Than my mind started to work super fast towards the future. What implication this would bring to me in future and what has made him behave like this to me. Than questions popped from my mind?
Firstly the Ops guy sitting in some location in different state, irrespective of him being in that position he could have informed the news to my boss or anyone in the south or in that case he could have informed it to his boss. But he gave the information stating that he is full filling his promise to me .this has hurted my boss hard, reason is my boss and the ops guys hail from same state, and the ops guy is also close to my boss. EGO OF MY BOSS HURTED.
He than over reacted to the situation and acted weird, he know that if this sale comes on my name , I will be highlighted thru out pan India, and the account is so big that his eyes were on it even before the time I informed him that this is going to come. May be this is my side of story , I could not understand why he was doing all this , every day he shouting on one or the other reason, instead of supporting and encouraging me he started degrading and demotivating me in front of everyone thru calls.
I have decided that his ego has been deeply wounded, and he cannot understand that even if I get that sale he can grow because I grow. But he wants that sale on his name because he as an individual has a target, and that is where I cannot take it. Now I decided that even if I get that sale he will not appreciate me, instead he will keep blaming me that it's not my effort. I can see my future not that great , I cannot work in this environment anymore, I cannot work here were my efforts are not recognized. I decided to move on and I put down my papers. But before that I want to try my last hope is going to head of sales and request him to interfere in this, but than he was the one who bought my boss into the system and he would obviously have a kind heart for him and he will not prove himself wrong.
Ok Friends Climax Time.
My resignation accepted my boss is one who has to approve with one month of proper notice, but my boss said that he had convinced HR that they will pay all the dues till notice period and informed me that due to the new sales policy no sales guy is supposed to stay for more than a week from the date of resignation and asked me choose a date to leave, I said I can leave the next day as there was some handover work pending, he approved that and now I am writing this email. I got relived from my job yesterday and all the F&F Formalities would be completed ion 45 days from yesterday.
I am sad, feel like cheated, humiliated, degraded, de motivated, and what not. My life is standstill and don't know what to do. I cannot figure out where I went wrong.
Please help me guys, my humble request … do I want to fight back or move on with a positive note.
From India, Mumbai
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Hi Friend,
I am sorry to hear about all the nonsense that happened. Every bad experience is like a stepping stone to a shiny future. Take it in a positive note, move forward, and target a better job. Sometimes ego shows shadows of the same face in different angles, and in such cases, everything comes to an end.
Don't let yourself get depressed or demotivated. Instead, gain confidence. There is much to do. Use the past as a tool, think about your future, and plan accordingly.
Good luck to you.
- Babu
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I am sorry to hear about all the nonsense that happened. Every bad experience is like a stepping stone to a shiny future. Take it in a positive note, move forward, and target a better job. Sometimes ego shows shadows of the same face in different angles, and in such cases, everything comes to an end.
Don't let yourself get depressed or demotivated. Instead, gain confidence. There is much to do. Use the past as a tool, think about your future, and plan accordingly.
Good luck to you.
- Babu
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Thank you, friends.
Now I am facing a new problem. I am supposed to hand over my laptop back to the company. Before that, I want some things to be clarified. I have not signed any document stating that a salesperson has to be relieved in one week's time after resignation.
My boss has given me only two days, either last Friday or Monday, as options for me to be relieved. Since I don't have much to hand over and he promised me that my pay will be considered until the last date of my notice period, which is March 10, 2011. In fact, he added that pay will be considered from Feb 18 until March 18 and all the dues for 48 days will be settled in F&F Settlement. He said he has convinced the HR guys to do so.
Can this happen? What option am I left with? Can I still serve my notice period?
Because he is pressuring me that I did not surrender my laptop on the relieving day. As I have downloaded my bank statements, my loan documents, some pictures, he threatens me that he will put a case against me for breach of trust.
What should I do?
From India, Mumbai
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Now I am facing a new problem. I am supposed to hand over my laptop back to the company. Before that, I want some things to be clarified. I have not signed any document stating that a salesperson has to be relieved in one week's time after resignation.
My boss has given me only two days, either last Friday or Monday, as options for me to be relieved. Since I don't have much to hand over and he promised me that my pay will be considered until the last date of my notice period, which is March 10, 2011. In fact, he added that pay will be considered from Feb 18 until March 18 and all the dues for 48 days will be settled in F&F Settlement. He said he has convinced the HR guys to do so.
Can this happen? What option am I left with? Can I still serve my notice period?
Because he is pressuring me that I did not surrender my laptop on the relieving day. As I have downloaded my bank statements, my loan documents, some pictures, he threatens me that he will put a case against me for breach of trust.
What should I do?
From India, Mumbai
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You have a proven track record with numbers and clients; stay focused on looking for a new role. Firms are always eager to hire high-achieving talent in sales and marketing. You score a brownie there. It's always better to move away from a firm where transparency is nil and leadership is corrupted.
Have your dues been released?
Count yourself lucky that you have only spent 15 months in your career and have the rest of your employment to save. Wish you all the best!
Regards.
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Have your dues been released?
Count yourself lucky that you have only spent 15 months in your career and have the rest of your employment to save. Wish you all the best!
Regards.
From India, Mumbai
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It would be advisable to speak to a good recruitment consultant,also speak to your HR head and ask him for an exit interview form
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I can only suggest you move on with a positive note. Appreciate your boss for all the good things he has done for you and carry those along with you. The professional world is small; people will come across you in the future. The things that will help you grow are positive thinking and a good relationship with others.
Thanks,
Manish
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Manish
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Fighting with the company is like fighting with a wall. My initial suggestion is to think that out of frustration, you have kicked off the company. Take a break for at least a week. I advise returning all the assets and whatever belongs to the company. Thereon, look out for a fresh job. Please write a very sentimental and truthful letter to your boss, who has caused this mess, and request a positive response for your background from the next employer.
I know you will be in between jobs, but now the truth is, you need money and peace. First, focus on that.
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Rupesh
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I know you will be in between jobs, but now the truth is, you need money and peace. First, focus on that.
Best Regards,
Rupesh
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You have skills; go for another job. Don't involve yourself in any fight with your boss, as you might meet him after some time. The professional world is really small, so be honest, work with the same dedication, and never overwork. Sometimes, seniors take it as a threat to their positions (it's a personal experience).
By following these guidelines, you can navigate the professional world more effectively and maintain positive relationships with your colleagues and superiors.
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From India, Delhi
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By following these guidelines, you can navigate the professional world more effectively and maintain positive relationships with your colleagues and superiors.
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From India, Delhi
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Dear Friend, my advice is to look forward in your career if you got your full settlement. Fighting is not wise; legal remedies require evidence, which may not be possible except for statements as you have written. All the best. Regards, RL Pandey
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Things like this happen in all offices. It is your conviction about yourself that matters most. You know that you are capable, hardworking, target-oriented, and can be successful. If the management cannot realize your efforts, they lose.
There are umpteen numbers of companies that need your kind of people and potential. So, don't get depressed. I am sure you will land in a much better job and a higher position than you are now.
As GEETHA says, whatever happened is for good, whatever is happening is for good, and whatever is going to happen is also for good. So, cheer up and move on. Learn from your failures rather than falling down.
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There are umpteen numbers of companies that need your kind of people and potential. So, don't get depressed. I am sure you will land in a much better job and a higher position than you are now.
As GEETHA says, whatever happened is for good, whatever is happening is for good, and whatever is going to happen is also for good. So, cheer up and move on. Learn from your failures rather than falling down.
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Going through the happenings, it is disturbing, but you have the talent, enthusiasm, and courage to face the situations. It is a big learning experience, and you should move forward with a positive note. Keeping company assets is not a wise decision. Complete the handover formalities and obtain a relieving letter or service certificate.
The world is big, and there are many opportunities in the market. Plan for a pleasant trip or take a break, and try to join another company. Some of our friends are mentioning approaching the competitor, which is not advisable. They may appreciate and respect you until they get good business, but afterward, you may become cheap in their eyes, and they may doubt your ethics.
Be positive - wishing you all the best - Kamesh
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The world is big, and there are many opportunities in the market. Plan for a pleasant trip or take a break, and try to join another company. Some of our friends are mentioning approaching the competitor, which is not advisable. They may appreciate and respect you until they get good business, but afterward, you may become cheap in their eyes, and they may doubt your ethics.
Be positive - wishing you all the best - Kamesh
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Sorry to hear all the nonsense from your boss. I agree with Rupesh; just forget it all and search for another job. I am going through the same situation, and now, with a fresh mind, I am searching for a new job. Meanwhile, I read a good book, "The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari," and it really encouraged me a lot. Maybe you can try the same. Sometimes, people who have no skill, or very little skill, fear those who are really excelling with their skills. To keep their positions safe, they start low-level politics and convey wrong or manipulated messages to the boss. Just review your whole experience and find out where you made mistakes. Mistakes in the sense that sometimes we put faith in the wrong person or are too open. Sometimes it's good to keep quiet and just observe or read people around you. Whatever mistakes you feel you made, don't repeat them in the next organization. Learn from your experience. Keep faith in Almighty God and go ahead with confidence.
Wish you all the best for your new opportunities.
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Sharad Pant
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Wish you all the best for your new opportunities.
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Sharad Pant
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Understanding Workplace Dynamics: Navigating Challenges with Your Boss
What is the point of working on an account that your boss doesn't want you to be involved with? Are you working for a company, or are you the boss? If you are an employee, remember that your boss is always right. Cracking any corporate account can never be done by a single account manager. There are always many decision-makers who need to be involved during a buying process. What I can see is a lack of experience and understanding from your side.
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What is the point of working on an account that your boss doesn't want you to be involved with? Are you working for a company, or are you the boss? If you are an employee, remember that your boss is always right. Cracking any corporate account can never be done by a single account manager. There are always many decision-makers who need to be involved during a buying process. What I can see is a lack of experience and understanding from your side.
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dont worry ok this is quite common now a days be positive. We in gulf countries do face such things often. never believe any one who gives a lot of assurances ronny
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Move on with positive spirit.No point fighting with your old organisation and diverting energy which can be better used for starting afresh.
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This happens all the time. I am facing a similar problem. I think all we can do is move on. If you question your boss when it's time for recruitment by a future company and they ask for feedback, your current company may give a negative report.
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All that I can say is you were the right person at the wrong place and at the wrong time. Move on with positive insights in you. I am sure that with the knowledge and passion that you carry towards your professional life, you will achieve better results and find a very nice company to work for.
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Krishna
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Krishna
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I would suggest you go out with a positive mindset and ensure that you receive your F&F settlement accurately. Just speak with the HR of the company to get all the necessary information clarified. After you have received all your dues, have a discussion with the boss and explain your reasons for leaving the job. This may not resolve the issue, but at least he will be informed.
When you have performed exceptionally well in this company, you will undoubtedly progress beyond your boss.
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From India, Bangalore
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When you have performed exceptionally well in this company, you will undoubtedly progress beyond your boss.
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From India, Bangalore
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I have come across a similar situation at the office with one of my colleagues. I made my boss feel sorry even after leaving the organization. He apologized in front of everyone. Now, we are all on good terms and share good memories.
This happens when individual egos come between job profiles. Efficient subordinates are sometimes not tolerated by jealous bosses.
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From India, Kolkata
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This happens when individual egos come between job profiles. Efficient subordinates are sometimes not tolerated by jealous bosses.
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From India, Kolkata
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Keep your cool. Frustration is not going to help anyone. All I would say is, you should have kept your boss informed about the discussion between you and the Ops GM. Always ensure that all the updates should reach your boss only through you. It should not reach him through anybody else. Even though you have put in all the efforts, you should have kept your boss in the loop.
Different Scenario
The senior management staff will be meeting each other on a regular basis, which you may not be aware of. They might meet for so many reasons. During such meetings, they discuss many things. Imagine if you were in your boss's position and some other department head was talking about the new sales account in the Senior Management Meeting. You would be totally embarrassed.
Even otherwise, if some other department head opens up about the new deal to you. Imagine if you were in your boss's position and you would be embarrassed because it would seem as if you have not received updates from your subordinates.
Being an experienced person, your boss could have handled it in a good way. But, as you said, he would have been worried about his own target.
The problem is that despite all your efforts, the Ops guy had gained the benefits because he would have projected it to the top management as his achievement. If you had kept your boss in the loop, I feel that he would have ensured benefits for himself and you as well.
I understand that you would not have concealed the information from your boss intentionally. But please ensure that this doesn't happen in the future. In today's professional arena, we need to be smart thinkers. We should also ensure that we don't embarrass or undermine anyone, particularly our boss.
Best wishes for a bright future. There is always sunshine at the end of a shadow. Please don't lose hope.
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Raman
From India, Tiruppur
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Different Scenario
The senior management staff will be meeting each other on a regular basis, which you may not be aware of. They might meet for so many reasons. During such meetings, they discuss many things. Imagine if you were in your boss's position and some other department head was talking about the new sales account in the Senior Management Meeting. You would be totally embarrassed.
Even otherwise, if some other department head opens up about the new deal to you. Imagine if you were in your boss's position and you would be embarrassed because it would seem as if you have not received updates from your subordinates.
Being an experienced person, your boss could have handled it in a good way. But, as you said, he would have been worried about his own target.
The problem is that despite all your efforts, the Ops guy had gained the benefits because he would have projected it to the top management as his achievement. If you had kept your boss in the loop, I feel that he would have ensured benefits for himself and you as well.
I understand that you would not have concealed the information from your boss intentionally. But please ensure that this doesn't happen in the future. In today's professional arena, we need to be smart thinkers. We should also ensure that we don't embarrass or undermine anyone, particularly our boss.
Best wishes for a bright future. There is always sunshine at the end of a shadow. Please don't lose hope.
Regards,
Raman
From India, Tiruppur
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"Move on with a positive note onward on your path" and find a better job. Also, look out for a fresh job and never overwork in a company that rightly values your contributions. New things are waiting for you.
My advice is to look forward to your career. Fighting is not wise; legal remedies may be required, which may not be possible except for a statement as you have written. I think you have proved you have skills; go for another job. Don't feel anything, and don't fight with your boss. You might meet him after some years, and then, obviously, he will realize his mistakes. I think the professional world is really small, so be honest with yourself and the company. Sometimes, seniors take it as a threat to their positions (it's a personal experience). Count yourself lucky that you have only spent 15 months of your career and have the rest of the employment to save.
Wish you all the best!
Warm regards,
Tahsin Raza
From India, Noida
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My advice is to look forward to your career. Fighting is not wise; legal remedies may be required, which may not be possible except for a statement as you have written. I think you have proved you have skills; go for another job. Don't feel anything, and don't fight with your boss. You might meet him after some years, and then, obviously, he will realize his mistakes. I think the professional world is really small, so be honest with yourself and the company. Sometimes, seniors take it as a threat to their positions (it's a personal experience). Count yourself lucky that you have only spent 15 months of your career and have the rest of the employment to save.
Wish you all the best!
Warm regards,
Tahsin Raza
From India, Noida
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I agree with Imok. The corporate world is very small. Do not burn your bridges. You might require the experience letter from your ex-employer. Keep visiting HR consultancies for better opportunities. Stick to the same industry as you have gained good exposure. As soon as you get a new job, target the same client and bag it. Then meet your ex-boss and also inform the sales head of your previous company about the closure.
From India, Madras
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Feeling pity for you because you made all the effort to grow the plant into a tree, but the fruits are now being enjoyed by somebody else. What you can do is note this incident in your career notebook as a chapter of a real lesson. Be cautious and aware of such moronic people because the corporate world is full of such butt-heads and greedy, evil-minded souls who simply do not want the buds to grow.
Don't lose hope; start your battle to conquer the field and see the flag with your name waving high in your department of work.
Best of luck for a new start.
From India, Calcutta
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Don't lose hope; start your battle to conquer the field and see the flag with your name waving high in your department of work.
Best of luck for a new start.
From India, Calcutta
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As per my understanding, your boss was worried about your progress and achievements. There was a serious threat to his job, and the only easy option was to move you out of the organization to be safe and also to close the new proposal.
We find such people all over the industry. The easy way is to either get ahead of them before they notice or move away from them for a better future. Remember the quote by Winston Churchill, "You will never reach your destination if you stop at every dog that barks."
Wishing you all the best for new assignments.
Regards.
From India
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We find such people all over the industry. The easy way is to either get ahead of them before they notice or move away from them for a better future. Remember the quote by Winston Churchill, "You will never reach your destination if you stop at every dog that barks."
Wishing you all the best for new assignments.
Regards.
From India
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Please move on with a positive note. I can perfectly understand your emotions, but such things are becoming regular, and the moment you keep the result away from your efforts, nothing can demotivate you. Be focused, put in the effort, march in the right direction, but keep away from the results. It's tough to practice, but you will see a spectacular difference in yourself as a person and in your life. Keep smiling.
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Hema
From India, Chennai
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Hema
From India, Chennai
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It is too late to comment on this topic, but it was really very bad what the boss did to you. However, I can say, be positive and move forward. Such situations can be found everywhere in your life, including office politics. You need to be cautious and not trust the commitments of any office person in your future endeavors. Do your best and maintain your enthusiasm.
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From India, Mumbai
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Please file a report against the company's Managing Director. Cheating in any form is unacceptable. Don't worry, if they have provided you with an appointment letter stating a one-month notice period, you can take legal action against him.
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From India, Delhi
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Thank you.
From India, Delhi
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Don't follow this method because revenge is a double-edged sword, and you risk jeopardizing your chances of being hired by the new company. When you make such suggestions, a responsible HR department would question what actions the candidate might take upon leaving our company. The moment HR starts to contemplate potential cancellations or terminations of your employment, your appointment could be at risk.
From India, Bangalore
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All the advice given by others is correct. Follow the same. Do not follow unethical practices while you are serving the notice period in that company. Check if you can take any legal action with respect to the notice period. The world is full of highly educated, highly qualified, highly respected, and reputed individuals. In sales, you are not supposed to believe even your own shadow; it is our foolishness to believe others, no matter even if they are our boss.
Important People in Life
In life, there are three people we should never forget:
1. **OURSELVES:** Do not lose hope; think positively.
2. **PERSON/PERSONS WHO SUPPORTED YOU:** People who are with you at any point in life.
3. **PERSON/PERSONS WHO BLAME YOU FOR EVERYTHING:** No one is born perfect. People who criticize us provide a great opportunity for learning in life.
This lesson that you have learned will help you throughout your lifetime. Always think positively and move forward. All the best.
From India, Hyderabad
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Important People in Life
In life, there are three people we should never forget:
1. **OURSELVES:** Do not lose hope; think positively.
2. **PERSON/PERSONS WHO SUPPORTED YOU:** People who are with you at any point in life.
3. **PERSON/PERSONS WHO BLAME YOU FOR EVERYTHING:** No one is born perfect. People who criticize us provide a great opportunity for learning in life.
This lesson that you have learned will help you throughout your lifetime. Always think positively and move forward. All the best.
From India, Hyderabad
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My sincere advice to you is to please move on with peace in your mind. As I see it, you are hardworking, intelligent, and positive, and have done well for the company. However, the present case was never yours. As you yourself admit, the lead was given by your boss, the Travel Manager was his close friend, and they had a good rapport—you only did the legwork and prepared the case for your boss. It was more of a supporting role, which you did admirably. It also seems that you relied more on your boss's connections and references than anything else for this account.
Regarding his sidelining you, well, that is not surprising, as he wanted to take the glory for a big account for himself. In my view, you should not have resigned since it does not affect the company but may affect you individually. This situation may arise even in your new job. Remain in the system and fight until you have a better option outside or an opportunity to give one back to your colleague. Never quit like this.
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Ravi Thakur
VP Corporate - CS
From India, New Delhi
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Regarding his sidelining you, well, that is not surprising, as he wanted to take the glory for a big account for himself. In my view, you should not have resigned since it does not affect the company but may affect you individually. This situation may arise even in your new job. Remain in the system and fight until you have a better option outside or an opportunity to give one back to your colleague. Never quit like this.
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Ravi Thakur
VP Corporate - CS
From India, New Delhi
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I do not appreciate your decision, and let me be slightly blunt to say so. However, it would be easy for me to advise without having experienced the pain and heat of the real situation that you might have undergone.
Firm Belief and Practice
One firm belief and practice I always enforce with my team members and anybody, for that matter, is "DO NOT QUIT IF YOU ARE NOT WRONG." I know it reads slightly ideological, but it indeed works mostly.
If I were you, I would have created the maximum possible noise, the highest level of escalation, and fought back within the set decorum and organizational guidelines. I would have also gathered all possible evidence to substantiate your side of the story (such as the emails you shared with your boss and other relevant inputs of the same sort).
Now, look at this point: if this approach of yours had failed, at worst, you would have lost the job, which is the status now as well. But you would have felt less frustration and pain, and your ex-boss would have lost a significant amount of credibility. Also, he would have come under the scanner of his boss and other management layers, which is detrimental to his career. Even if you had given a hint of this kind of action or any escalation with the Ombuds, a wise boss would have settled the issue offline, giving you some other consideration, which you would have had a choice to choose. You know why? He can't afford to lose a battle with 10-12 years of his experience to your 1.5 odd years.
I don't mind empathizing with you, but that would not fix the issue. The industry is very big and fairly dynamic. Get into another job, and importantly, without any preconceived mindset. Good luck.
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UAP
From India
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Firm Belief and Practice
One firm belief and practice I always enforce with my team members and anybody, for that matter, is "DO NOT QUIT IF YOU ARE NOT WRONG." I know it reads slightly ideological, but it indeed works mostly.
If I were you, I would have created the maximum possible noise, the highest level of escalation, and fought back within the set decorum and organizational guidelines. I would have also gathered all possible evidence to substantiate your side of the story (such as the emails you shared with your boss and other relevant inputs of the same sort).
Now, look at this point: if this approach of yours had failed, at worst, you would have lost the job, which is the status now as well. But you would have felt less frustration and pain, and your ex-boss would have lost a significant amount of credibility. Also, he would have come under the scanner of his boss and other management layers, which is detrimental to his career. Even if you had given a hint of this kind of action or any escalation with the Ombuds, a wise boss would have settled the issue offline, giving you some other consideration, which you would have had a choice to choose. You know why? He can't afford to lose a battle with 10-12 years of his experience to your 1.5 odd years.
I don't mind empathizing with you, but that would not fix the issue. The industry is very big and fairly dynamic. Get into another job, and importantly, without any preconceived mindset. Good luck.
Regards,
UAP
From India
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In my opinion, you should grow a pair! Everyone has had a difficult boss. Look at it this way: The boss was an idiot. He stole your ideas and took credit for your work. (Sounds like some of the most famous businessmen out there! Steve Jobs, for example. It happens at every level, my friend.) The longer you lasted under a boss like that, the worse it would have been for you. In the initial stages of your career, don't worry about getting credit and getting paid as much as you should be worried about learning. Without even knowing it, you've gotten a hardcore lesson in office politics at this firm, and believe me, you won't realize it now, but it will certainly help a great deal in the long run. What you learned from this job is a lot more valuable than what you earned from it.
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