I have started a new housekeeping company. I don't have any manpower yet, but I want ESI and PF numbers for my company. Can I obtain ESI or PF numbers without any manpower? As per their terms, I have to submit a minimum of 20 employee challans. Please tell me as I need help.

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Abhishek Sharma
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From India, Gurgaon
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As per my knowledge, you cannot get ESI or PF registration without having the specified number of employees as per each Act. You will need a minimum of 20 employees to be registered. Thus, until you have 20 employees, you cannot offer this provision.
From India, Bangalore
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EPF and ESI Coverage Requirements

An organization employing (or having employed on any day during the last 12 weeks) 20 or more employees shall be covered under the EPF Act. For coverage, the salary given to employees is not a matter.

Under ESI, an establishment is covered if the number of employees exceeds the limit of 10.

For more information, you can visit the below-mentioned websites:

1) [ESIC : Chinta se Mukti](http://www.esic.nic.in) for information on ESI
2) [EPFO (Govt. of India)](http://www.epfindia.com) for information on PF

Hope this will be useful for you.

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Hi all, happy Pongal. I have one query regarding EPF and ESI. Ours is a proprietorship firm that we recently converted into a private limited company. I want to confirm whether the same code numbers will continue for our company and what all we need to do.
From India, Vijayawada
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Voluntary Registration Under EPF and MP Act, 1952

Under the EPF and MP Act, 1952, registration is possible for willing establishments even with 10 employees, provided the employer desires to get registered voluntarily and meets other terms and conditions for the same.

From India, Pune
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