Dear Kumar :
I agree with you, Asra and others wherein you have voiced that Accounts personnel bossing over HR personnel.
If you will critically analyse, there have been and still are lot of companies, organisation where a separate HR cell is not existing but the HR activities are taken care of by accounts personnel. As rightly pointed out byyou, there could be DGM - Comml & Admin, or Mgr - Accts & Admin which will include HR functions too. But you wd not find a HR Manager taking care of accounting functions as well.
This fact could be due to the reason that non-HR and non-Personnel dept employees can do some thing with the HR functions - though not in a professional way but can manager - jobs like issuing of apptmt letters, attendance and salary administration and preparation of salary sheets etc etc. Even with existance of HR dept, I know organisations, where the ESI, PF, P Tax etc payments are the responsibility of the accounts and finanace dept.
To top it all, the accounts and finance will send xerox copies of the proof of payment of these statutory obligations to the HR dept for their info and records and retain the originals with them.
Well, at the time of the statutory inspections, I have also experienced the ordeal we have to undergo to get the original proof of payments/challans etc from accounts to be produced to the Inspecting authorities.
The above being the case, have you come across any organisation/companies where there are no accounts personnel ? Can HR dept take care of the accounting procedures ? Even in unorganised institutions we will find an Accountant who takes care of the accounting fuctions of the org. Can HR or any body else than accounts take care of this function.
The above concept has certainly taken a beating and is changing. Many org have realised the importance of HR professionals in their org - to fix the employees salaries appropriately, awarding rational increments etc etc with utmost care given to retaining of employees.
HR professionals have been and are being recognised for their part in the Org. The status of accounts personnel ill-treating HR personnel will have to and will change.
As we are supposed to be - have patience which will bear the desired result. Patience pays.
Regards. All the best and good luck.
:: Dhinakaran
I agree with you, Asra and others wherein you have voiced that Accounts personnel bossing over HR personnel.
If you will critically analyse, there have been and still are lot of companies, organisation where a separate HR cell is not existing but the HR activities are taken care of by accounts personnel. As rightly pointed out byyou, there could be DGM - Comml & Admin, or Mgr - Accts & Admin which will include HR functions too. But you wd not find a HR Manager taking care of accounting functions as well.
This fact could be due to the reason that non-HR and non-Personnel dept employees can do some thing with the HR functions - though not in a professional way but can manager - jobs like issuing of apptmt letters, attendance and salary administration and preparation of salary sheets etc etc. Even with existance of HR dept, I know organisations, where the ESI, PF, P Tax etc payments are the responsibility of the accounts and finanace dept.
To top it all, the accounts and finance will send xerox copies of the proof of payment of these statutory obligations to the HR dept for their info and records and retain the originals with them.
Well, at the time of the statutory inspections, I have also experienced the ordeal we have to undergo to get the original proof of payments/challans etc from accounts to be produced to the Inspecting authorities.
The above being the case, have you come across any organisation/companies where there are no accounts personnel ? Can HR dept take care of the accounting procedures ? Even in unorganised institutions we will find an Accountant who takes care of the accounting fuctions of the org. Can HR or any body else than accounts take care of this function.
The above concept has certainly taken a beating and is changing. Many org have realised the importance of HR professionals in their org - to fix the employees salaries appropriately, awarding rational increments etc etc with utmost care given to retaining of employees.
HR professionals have been and are being recognised for their part in the Org. The status of accounts personnel ill-treating HR personnel will have to and will change.
As we are supposed to be - have patience which will bear the desired result. Patience pays.
Regards. All the best and good luck.
:: Dhinakaran