Real Life Case - Need Help With Release -

siva sundar
Sorry Mr. Anil, I just found out that you are the board moderator.
Can you share your mail Id please. I am not sure whether I can share those documents in public.
anil.arora
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Hardeep
I just wanted to bring in some words of caution here :

- Some suggest that being from a premiere Institute just forget this and you will get a company to take you. Sorry doesn't work that way. I may be from Harvard but if I am a Harvard educated fraud and found out, no one will touch me even with a BIIIG pole !

- The essence of your case is that you did not join back your employer on an agreed date, neither asked them/ get from them an extension. Logically, they would start abandonment and dismissal proceedings. But again, generally, there are warnings given before hand. Were they given ? If not, you may have some points to tell them to gracefully consider.

- Your employment record with XXX is in your admission records with various institutes and in your biodata which you submitted to your present employer . You can not, now, just wipe it off and forget it. And the record of how you left / were dismissed will remain with XXX unless a senior level action takes it off.

- Getting involved into legalese will, IMHO, not get you anywhere since the fault is with you. Only recourse you may have is to get the HR on your side and then, via them, approach someone who is high up the ladder there to get your dismissal converted into a resignation. A parallel similar action could be with your present employer. If both these do not work to the point you are told to leave, that would, perhaps, be the point to get into stronger legal options.

I am just curious here ..was there a Bond with XXX ? Why could you just not serve them a notice and / or give Notice Pay in lieu of if demanded and close the case properly , in time ?

You are between a rock and hard place my friend ! Hope everything turns out well for you.
siva sundar
There were warnings sent to my home, when I was in Lucknow. XXX has done as per procedure. I am doing the same.. Requesting both the companies HR for considering on humanitarian grounds. I don't have any bond with XXX.
My question is "Can company reverse a dismissal?, if possible on what grounds?"
Hardeep
Well there are many obvious .. if they want to help you, a "misplaced" letter could be found after you give them a "copy" of the same. Case closed.
siva sundar
XXX being SAP system driven HR system. How can they help me?
Being a bigger organization, companies ego also comes to place.
Currently they are just giving a letter stating the reason for dismissal "as a procedure we follow her at XXX and there are no conduct issues". Will that work with the private bank?
Hardeep
My friend, all I can say is that nothing in this life - and particularly in bits and bytes of information - is written in stone :-)
Ask them to suggest you a way out ...maybe they have something. If they want to help....
Or, your present employer could / should take a more understanding view. After all, it is not as if you have caused a financial loss to anyone due culpable conduct. If you want, talk to me on 9810290988
Best
bodhisutra
I still find it weird that you did your degree at IIMx, are finding it tough to get a job and are really keen to rejoinXXX.
Convincing new employers that your "dismissal" was not because of some fraud or felony you did would be far easier than getting XXX to revoke your "dismissal".
In any case, you can get an entry level job and your pre-degree dismissal on a technical ground would really not bother many.
Are you sure you are not getting a job because of this technical "dismissal" or is the problem somewhere else?
siva sundar
Hi Bodhisutra,
Appreciate your message.
I am yet to deep dive into job hunting but have tried few companies and it is difficult to convert when I am moving from the current job within 6 months and with my history of dismissal. Trust me IIM degree are generic these days with 450 people passin out of each IIM's. With great difficulty I got to my present job in a Bank.
Do suggest me how to apply for jobs in this competitive world with 18000 MBA's passing out each year? I am trying via Naukri, IIMjobs.com and through referrals by friends.
Thanks and regards,
Xxxx Xxxxxx
siva sundar
No Sir.
XXX has accepted to give a letter but no change in the status of dismissal. The current employer (Private Bank) is waiting for XXX letter. XXX is giving some lame reason like their mail service is not working and all for the last 2 days.
Can you give me the format of these kind of letter given by the employer?
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