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Thread Started by #sakshiverma1985

Dear All,

We have registered a consulting company in Bangalore with our residence address, As earlier we didn't had office space, Now we are incorporated as pvt ltd by ROC Bangalore. Now we plan to set up a office at new address which is different than our registered residence address with RoC , Below are two queries regarding Shop & Establishment act registration

1.) Our Pvt Ltd company registration has our residence address But we want to avail the shop and establishment registration with our real work address / office address, will it be ok ? will the documents suffice ?

2.) Also we plan to work from our office address only , so we will apply for shop and establishment registration for our office address , Do we still need to apply for shop and establishment for our residence address as well because its the address mentioned in certificate of incorporation provided by RoC ? Or we can live with only one shop and establishment registration for our office address only

Note : We dont plan to change our residence address with RoC at the moment, reason being is we want to keep one permanent residence address for our company with RoC and based on our company growth the actual work address may change later so that's the only reason to have residence address with RoC and actual work address as different, So please advice do we need to have shop and establishment registration for both or just our real work address . Also at residence we wont work at all its just used for registration address
22nd January 2013 From India, Kundan
Please advice anyone, appreciate your help as we finalizing the shop and establishment registration, Our CA adviced us to change the address with RoC ? Any Suggestion from Citehr community ?
23rd January 2013 From India, Kundan
Hi, You can Register under shops act with your new address, (Branch), keeping the address in the ROC (registered office) unchanged.
24th January 2013 From India
Dear Varma,
The shops and commercial establishment Act does not says that your ROC address should be the address to be shown in the the registration certificate. In the certificate the address from where you are really working has to be shown and recorded in the labour department. In your post since you have stated that in ROC address you are not at all working. Hence there is no need of taking shops and establishment license in the ROC address.
You need to only take license for your office address.
Only thing is that when you take license for your office address you should show the rent deed before the labour officer.
But for taking license for office address the ROC certificate is not sufficient.You have to show the rent deed.
The certificate of ROC is taken only to show that the particular company have been formed and it has been registered.
There is no need of changing the address in ROC for getting the registration certificate under Shops and commercial establishment act.
24th January 2013 From India, Kochi
Your ca is dead wrong
And your approach is correct
Keep your home address as registered address. It makes sense to have an address that does not need to be chaned.
Since no one is working there, you do not need to take a shop and establishment license there.
Your actual office can be at a different place and the shop and establishment license must be taken for that place.
The roc address and shop and establishment address had nothing to do with each other
25th January 2013 From India, Mumbai
Dear , It is required Under Shop & Establishment Act , you may take registration for your office with more than 5 employee , Registration purpose you contact BDA .They will assist you.It is normal fee's will collect , why you take risk , better to get registration safer side.
VILAS
25th January 2013 From India, Bijapur
e - Karmika is a facility for Registration of Establishments under the Karnataka Shops and Commercial Establishments Act, 1961 ; which is one of the State Labour Laws and Rules being enforced by the Department of Labour, Karnataka.

The Department, as part of its functions, enforces various laws in the State which require citizens to interact with the department as part of adherence to various State and Central Enactments.



* Instructions to Shop and Establishment owners



List of Scanned Documents to be uploaded

Proprietor / Managing Partner/ Directors Photo

Address proof for the establishment /shop (Rental /lease agreement etc.)

Identity Proof of the owner/ authorised signatory (PAN card/ Driving license/Voter Card etc.)

Statuatory Documents (Partnership deed/BBMP trade License/Incorporation Certificate /Memorandum of Article for Commercial Establishments 1st page and Last page scanned/Proprietorship firm certificate copy)

Authorisation letter for Authorised signatory / self attestation Letter for Owner

Challan /Payment Receipt /Transanction Receipt

Duly filled Registration Form signed by owner / Authorised signatory

Download Declaration of Signature/Authorized Signatory Format

Registration fee

No Employees 250/-

1 to 9 Employees 500/-

10 to 19 Employees 3000/-

20 to 49 Employees 8000/-

50 to 99 Employees 15000/-

100 to 250 Employees 30000/-

251 to 500 Employees 35000/-

501 to 1000 Employees 45000/-

Above 1000 Employees 50000/-

Download Challan

Please visit labour web site need more information
25th January 2013 From India, Bijapur
Dear Sakshi Verma
The shosp act is applicable to apremises where a trade or business activity is carried on. Since you are going to work and carry on business at the new address, the registartion under the Shops act shall be done for the new address but not for the residential address.Othere members have calrified the issue sufficiently.
B.Saikumar
Mumbai
26th January 2013 From India, Mumbai
Thanks lot dear all Citehr community team, I got my answer. Once again appreciate everyone’s input and all have one say without any doubt it clears our understanding !! Regards,
27th January 2013 From India, Kundan
Dear,
No new regn. is necessary whatever you wanted to do. There is a Form A, file it with attachments as Vilas Shinde mentioned, remit the challan depending on the work force. The Labour Dept. will issue a Amended certificate (for 5 yrs.). If need be there are Consultants who will get it done for U and charge 1000 or 2000 Rs. Similarly RoC also.
kumar.s.
27th January 2013 From India, Bangalore
Dear Ms. Sakshi,
You have got all the advice you need on this issue, good luck with your registration, just in case if you have any difficulty with the process at Karmikra Bhawan, let me know and I'll talk to the relevant officer.
Please note that you need to inform of any change in details provided from time to time to the area circle inspector of the department and get the amended certificate. For eg. number of employees, change of office address etc., also make sure you comply with the mandatory maintaining of registers etc. The concerned area circle inspector will be conducting periodic visits to ascertain that all the rules are followed.
Regards,
HANSI
28th January 2013 From India, Chennai
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