Raghuvaran Chakkaravarthy
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By doing OHSAS & EMS certification, can an administrative manager have better prospects? I am working as a Manager(Administration), planning to do OHSAS & EMS certification thinking that these certifications will be fruitful to me. Seniors members please advise me.
20th November 2012 From India, Hyderabad
Dear Mr.Raman,
Welcome to out forum your'e in right place i think one of our senior member/person Mr.Sudhir is the right person to answer your query in one shot.
Dear Sudhir sir,
Awaiting for your input on this thread.
Thanks in advance.
20th November 2012 From United States, Fpo
Dear Mr. Raman,
Welcome to this forum.
Implementation of EMS & OHSAS helps everyone in an organisation.
The implementation of these management systems, maximum benefits are to employees.
In Western world even the trade unions make these systems compulsory.
The above is in-general remark.
If you post the type of your industry, Processes, products being manufactured I would then be able to comment in Detail.
Looking forward to hear from you.
Thanks & Regards,
Sudhir
21st November 2012 From India, Nasik
Dear Mr. Sudhir,
Greetings for the day,
Thankyou for your feedback, I also would like to know the process of implementation, I am working for Enrich Energy Ltd, Pune we are into Solar Power projects.
Best Regards
vishal
21st November 2012 From India, Vasind
Dear Vishal,
You may first identify scope of certification, then carry out HIRA & Aspect-Impact of all activities, identify applicable legal requirements & other requirements, make OCPs for activities with significant aspect/ risk, identify targets on EMS & OHSAS at org. level & dept. level, identify EMPs, identify KPIs to measure healthiness of management systems, plan internal audit (atleast 2/year) & one by accredition agency for certification/survelliance. Conduct mgmt. review atleast once a year.
Regards,
Ujjwal Shah
21st November 2012 From India, New Delhi
Dear Ujjwal,
Thanks for the post.
Dear Mr. Vishal,
Please find attached herewith the road map for EMS and OHSAS.
As you are in solar Power Projects, ISO 14001 would give a positive impact on the business.
This would be a mandetaoy certification if you want to export to few countries.
In case you require any specific help pl let us know.
Thanks & Regards,
Sudhir
21st November 2012 From India, Nasik

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Greetings for the day!
Thank you so much Mr. Sudhir and Mr. Chakkaravarthy for your prompt response. Basically I am an MBA (HR) and an ex-serviceman retired from Indian Army, currently working as Manager (Administration) in a medium size software services enterprise in Hyderabad. Presently I am thinking for change and hence looking for better opportunities in IT MNCs and major manufacturing companies in similar role. My question is –1. Are these certifications relevant to a Manager in Administration? 2. Will the certifications like OHSAS and EMS really help me in grabbing good opportunities in IT MNCs and major manufacturing companies in admin and facilities?
with warm regards,
Raman
21st November 2012 From India, Hyderabad
Dear Raman,
The implementation of EHS and OHSAS would help every individual if you want to make a career in it.
You have to be passionate!!
You will have to read both the standards and find your own ways for implementation of them in the organisation.
You can also audit the systems.
The EMS and OHSAS in India is perceived as future.
Both standrds focus on Legal Compliance which in most of the cases responsibility of HR or Administration.
If you work hard working smart, you will definately suceed.
If you need any help pl let us know.
All the best.
Regards,
Sudhir
22nd November 2012 From India, Nasik
Dear Mr.Raman,
Going from the info furnished by you, I understand that you are basically a HR oriented person. Doing EMS and OSHAs will I believe of more help if a person is basically working as HSE manager, because quiet often there are lot of technical formalities to be complied.
Frankly cannot say how far this will help in your career. However, just for additional qualifications, yes doing this is OK.
22nd November 2012 From India, Mumbai
Dear Mr. Raman, In my opinion, if you are inclined towards IT MNC companies in EHS field, then you may have an option to be SAP EHS proffessional. Now a days, it is in demand. Regards, Ujjwal
22nd November 2012 From India, New Delhi
Dear Ujjwal,
Can you please tell in which place or institute these (SAP EHS) being taught and what are the companies that are giving placement for this. Any age restriction, etc.
Happy if you can clarify these also.
Regards,
22nd November 2012 From India, Mumbai
Dear Mr. Raman,
I am an ISO 9000 auditor since long.
You have mentioned that you intend working in HR in the IT field. In that case, it is more relevant for you to do ISO 20000 course which is for IT Services.
OHSAS and EMS are more relevant to manufacturing industries.
A word of caution. The training program is quite expensive to do on one's own. Plus there is the question of some five full days of absence from work. It is always better if you can manage a company sponsorship.
It will be certainly advantageous for the HR person in an IT industry to be qualified in ISO 20000. He can then take the lead in organising for the certification of the company and lead it in maintaining it. The IT guys will not have the time or patience for it!
By the way: Certification is what a company gets for the standard and Lead Assessor qualification is what an individual obtains.
22nd November 2012 From India, Bangalore
Dear Mr. Murdhar,
Greeting for the day!
Thank you so much for your comments. I am not working in HR, rather I am working as an Administrative Manager. Since security, safety and health, statutory & legal compliance and facility management comes directly under the purview of Administration of a company, I felt that certification in OHSAS and EMS atleast at foundation level will help me in working effectively as an administrator of the company. Further it may help me in getting better opportunities in big IT MNCs and major manufacturing companies. Waiting for your comments.
Thanking you,
with warm regards
Raman
22nd November 2012 From India, Hyderabad
Dear Mr Ram
Greeting for the day!
Thank you so much for your comments. I am not working in HR, rather I am working as an Administrative Manager. Since security, safety and health, statutory & legal compliance and facility management comes directly under the purview of Administration of a company, I felt that certification in OHSAS and EMS atleast at foundation level will help me in working effectively as an administrator of the company. Further it may help me in getting better opportunities in big IT MNCs and major manufacturing companies. Waiting for your comments.
Thanking you,
with warm regards
Raman
22nd November 2012 From India, Hyderabad
Dear Mr. Ram,
Greeting for the day!
Thank you so much for your comments. I am not working in HR, rather I am working as an Administrative Manager. Since security, safety and health, statutory & legal compliance and facility management comes directly under the purview of Administration of a company, I felt that certification in OHSAS and EMS atleast at foundation level will help me in working effectively as an administrator of the company. Since presently I am working in medium size software services enterprise I thought these certifications may help me in getting better opportunities in big IT MNCs and major manufacturing companies in Admin role. Waiting for your comments.
Thanking you,
with warm regards
Raman
22nd November 2012 From India, Hyderabad
Dear Mr. Ujjwal,

Greeting for the day!

Thank you so much for your comments. Sir presently I am working as an Administrative Manager in a medium size software services enterprise . In future I am looking to work with major IT MNCs and manufacturing companies in Administrative and facilities department since I have strong experience in administration in Indian Army and 3+ years of experience in Admin role in present software services company. Since security, safety and health, statutory & legal compliance and facility management comes directly under the purview of Administration of a company, I felt that certification in OHSAS and EMS atleast at foundation level will help me in working effectively as an administrator of the company and will further help me in getting better opportunities in big IT MNCs and major manufacturing companies in Admin role. May I request you to please comment whether these certifications are really helpful to me in Admin role or not?

Thanking you,

with warm regards

Raman
22nd November 2012 From India, Hyderabad
Dear Shri Ramana

It should be clear that EMS and OHSAS certifications are available to and are meant for Organisations and not for individuals. Individuals employed in Organisations can have opportunity of gaining experience in preparing the Organisation ready for Certification, of being a part of the process to get the Certifications for his Organisation and later in implementation .

For this, the prerequisite is that the Organisations decide at high level to go for the Certifications in question taking into account the benefits of the Certifications, the direct cost involved (certification fee to Certifying agencies, professional fee for the Agencies for preparing the Organisation for Certification, fee for renewal of Certification after the validity period, etc.), cost involved in generating the required procedures and documentation, cost involved in undertaking additional training to meet the requirement of the Certifications, cost equivalent for sparing the MR (Management Representative of the Organisation) for the work related to preparation for Certifications, and other related costs. HR, Administration or HSE Manager may take initiative in gathering the required data on Costs and Benefits to convince the top management to go for the Certifications and get the budget allocation for the purpose.

The person designated as MR will have maximum opportunity to gain and claim experience in implementation of Certifications. This certification would certainly be useful in enriching the CV of the person and may be helpful to get an edge over others in career advancement.

I agree with Shri Murthar that 'experience in getting the Certifications and their implementation' will be more beneficial to Technical Persons for career growth, when compared to HR / Admn. Managers.

Individuals can do training courses for Lead Auditors for these Certifications to supplement their professional qualification in HR, Administration or HSE.

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Nityananda

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22nd November 2012 From India, Hyderabad
ISO 14001 Environmental Management can be a very effective ISO 14001 EMS Certification tool to identify these cost savings opportunities for some organizations. Some other organizations can falter in its planning, lack of senior management commitment and poor understanding of how it should be implemented and find themselves managing an ineffective ISO 14001 EMS Certification . Among the key benefits of the ISO 14001 EMS Certification standard some of as follows:
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ISO 9001 does NOT define the actual quality of your product or service. The standard helps you achieve consistent results and continually improve the process. Thus, if you can make a good product most of the time, this helps you make it all of the time. It's just a series of good, basic business practices. Example of ISO 9001 applied to making cookies.
6th June 2013 From India, Pune
Many organizations decide to Implement ISO 9000 quality management approaches and obtain ISO 9001 registration because it assures customers that the company has a good Quality Management System (QMS) in place. Many organizations require their suppliers to have ISO9001 Registration. The concept of executing an ISO 9000 quality process allows companies to have access to a wider market for their products, particularly in the international arena, but also within their own countries.
6th June 2013 From India, Pune
Dear Mr. Raman,
I need Training assessment objective type questionnaire for EMS & OHSAS training evolutions for our all employee.
please help us if possible.
Thanks & regards.
Himanshu Thakur
24th August 2017
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