Dear Seniors, We are a new start-up company. One of our client companies has been continuously giving reasons for non-payment for the last 3 months. We have also waited for 3 months, but per the agreement, the client was entitled to make the payment within 1 month. Can you please guide me on what we can do in this case?
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Manasi
From India, Pune
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Manasi
From India, Pune
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Hi Manasi, I am sorry for your situation. Right now, you have two options:
Legal Action
First, if you have a legal contract with the signatures of both parties, you can take legal action in this case. Seek advice from a lawyer.
Blacklist the Client
Secondly, if you do not want to pursue legal procedures, you can blacklist this client so that no other consulting company will work with them.
All the best, and I hope this advice will help you.
Regards, Chitra
From India, Pune
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Legal Action
First, if you have a legal contract with the signatures of both parties, you can take legal action in this case. Seek advice from a lawyer.
Blacklist the Client
Secondly, if you do not want to pursue legal procedures, you can blacklist this client so that no other consulting company will work with them.
All the best, and I hope this advice will help you.
Regards, Chitra
From India, Pune
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Thank you for the prompt reply. I don't want to pursue legal action right now because I have a good relationship with that client. So, I will opt for the second option. Thank you for your help. Can anybody suggest anything else? I am really in trouble right now. :(
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Manasi
From India, Pune
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Manasi
From India, Pune
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Strong follow-up is the only solution. Keep calling, drop emails, try to meet the executive in person, and establish contacts with the key decision-makers of the client company. Do this for a month, and you will get your money. Remember to be professional and don't be abusive or aggressive, but be assertive.
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Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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Thank you for your message. I have been consistently following up, but every time he says he will release it by the end of January for the past two months. However, today marks the end of January, and there has been no positive response from their end. Additionally, the client company is not in the same city, making it challenging for us to have a face-to-face meeting.
I want to assure you that I will never resort to being abusive, but I am feeling tense about the situation.
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From India, Pune
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I want to assure you that I will never resort to being abusive, but I am feeling tense about the situation.
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From India, Pune
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Dear Manasi, This is a problem faced by many consultancies that deal with clients who are stationed elsewhere. I suggest you try to find out the key decision-makers of the company via some social networking site and inform them about the issue. I believe your client will release the payment upon the completion of three months of your candidate in the client's office.
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Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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Octavious
From India, Mumbai
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Please also share the company name on your social network so that other consultancies will not work with that company. By doing this, you can also profit as they will share the names of such companies, and you will be aware of them. These types of companies are always looking for new startup consultancies.
I will also post a list of blacklisted company names soon.
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Kumar
From India, Delhi
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I will also post a list of blacklisted company names soon.
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Kumar
From India, Delhi
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Hey Veena, Didn’t you take legal actions to get your money back against your clients who did not make the payment? Regards, Ashok
From India, Mumbai
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I am also a consultant from Mumbai and have faced such situations many times. You have to learn from experience and make a resolution never to work with such companies. This is only one part. You will encounter many clients in the future who will make you work on assignments but won't recruit from your consultancy, which is a waste of our hard-earned time and money.
Sometimes we are helpless as this industry does not have a support system that can assist us. There is a recruiters' association, but I don't think they provide help to small consultants.
Anyway, best of luck.
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Suresh
Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
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Sometimes we are helpless as this industry does not have a support system that can assist us. There is a recruiters' association, but I don't think they provide help to small consultants.
Anyway, best of luck.
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Suresh
Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Veena and Suresh, thank you for sharing your experience. It will help me along the way. I hope I will receive my payment soon. Thanks to all who replied. Let's keep in touch. I have a long way to go. Your experiences and support will surely help me a lot in my future business endeavors.
Thanks again.
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Manasi
From India, Pune
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Thanks again.
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Manasi
From India, Pune
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I read your problem, and I know that handling this situation is very difficult for any organization, as we have already experienced this before. What we did was we asked them to provide a post-dated check for a new date that suited them. Before depositing the check in the bank on the maturity date, we informed them that we were doing so. In order to preserve their goodwill in the market, they released our payment. So, my suggestion is to do the same with your client. Perhaps this approach will resolve your issue.
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From India, Indore
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From India, Indore
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Dear Friends,
A very interesting discussion is taking place here. Have any of us wondered why a Chartered Accountant (CA), a doctor, or a lawyer never have complaints of such nature, i.e., CLIENTS NOT PAYING?
The simple reason is that they are professionals and have a strong body backing them up. Unfortunately, we have a lot of shady people in our business who proclaim themselves as experts in the field of manpower placement, whereas they are just individuals who gather resumes, sort them, send them to clients, and expect 1 to 1.5 months of the candidate's salary. (Is this professional???)
Forget about the consultant not getting paid; what happens if your candidate does not receive their salary after working for 1 month? What happens to the poor fellow who trusted you and left a job where he was at least secure?
My humble request is that if you cannot secure your own payment from the company, then please stop playing around with candidates' futures and refrain from entering the business of placement unless you have enough might to legally fight it out with the company (defaulters).
And in the case where your candidates do not receive their salary from their employer, have a fund to pay them and fight with the company on their behalf.
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Kumar
From India, Mumbai
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A very interesting discussion is taking place here. Have any of us wondered why a Chartered Accountant (CA), a doctor, or a lawyer never have complaints of such nature, i.e., CLIENTS NOT PAYING?
The simple reason is that they are professionals and have a strong body backing them up. Unfortunately, we have a lot of shady people in our business who proclaim themselves as experts in the field of manpower placement, whereas they are just individuals who gather resumes, sort them, send them to clients, and expect 1 to 1.5 months of the candidate's salary. (Is this professional???)
Forget about the consultant not getting paid; what happens if your candidate does not receive their salary after working for 1 month? What happens to the poor fellow who trusted you and left a job where he was at least secure?
My humble request is that if you cannot secure your own payment from the company, then please stop playing around with candidates' futures and refrain from entering the business of placement unless you have enough might to legally fight it out with the company (defaulters).
And in the case where your candidates do not receive their salary from their employer, have a fund to pay them and fight with the company on their behalf.
Regards,
Kumar
From India, Mumbai
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It often happens. The best method is to build a rapport with the higher-ups and persuade them to make the payment, citing reasons such as experiencing a cash crunch or having a long-term relationship. This is because, even in very big organizations, payments are sometimes made even after one year.
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T
From India, Hyderabad
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T
From India, Hyderabad
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Handling Non-Payment Issues in Business
Interesting discussion here...
The question, as I understand it, is what you should do if someone refuses to pay for the services as agreed.
As suggested, one can:
- Do regular follow-ups.
- Take a legal course.
- Spread negative word, etc.
But more important is to move on and not get stuck there.
We do not have a strong professional association (and cannot have one for obvious reasons), and many times we are at the mercy of either the client or the candidate. Every time something undesired happens, we learn and are extra careful with those clients and candidates who have put us in trouble in the past.
The placement business is similar to a used car sales job. You get a commission on every unit sold. You are just transferring the product from one user to another user. If the deal is made but they refuse to give you the commission, then there is very little you can do against them. It is better to go out and find more deals.
Keep following up or take legal action (whatever suits you) and move on.
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Saurabh
From India, New Delhi
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Interesting discussion here...
The question, as I understand it, is what you should do if someone refuses to pay for the services as agreed.
As suggested, one can:
- Do regular follow-ups.
- Take a legal course.
- Spread negative word, etc.
But more important is to move on and not get stuck there.
We do not have a strong professional association (and cannot have one for obvious reasons), and many times we are at the mercy of either the client or the candidate. Every time something undesired happens, we learn and are extra careful with those clients and candidates who have put us in trouble in the past.
The placement business is similar to a used car sales job. You get a commission on every unit sold. You are just transferring the product from one user to another user. If the deal is made but they refuse to give you the commission, then there is very little you can do against them. It is better to go out and find more deals.
Keep following up or take legal action (whatever suits you) and move on.
Regards,
Saurabh
From India, New Delhi
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The Issue of Bribery in Vendor Management
I never support nor practice bribery. It's just that I am giving my advice to offer and recover the money. Most HR professionals hint to the vendor indirectly to pay the HR a certain commission. The vendor is getting a commission for the closure. They know most vendors will never go for legal actions. They simply harass the vendor by stopping the payment. Most recruiters do not know that 80 to 90% of managers take money in some way. Some say it directly, and some just give hints. If the company does not have finance, they can issue post-dated cheques, but they do not do so as it's part of vendor management. If your money is stuck, would you not like to recover it as early as possible? If by this approach, she recovers her money, it's totally a business.
Hello job_connect_consultancy, what you are suggesting to Manasi is TO BRIBE the HR person.
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TS
From India, Mumbai
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I never support nor practice bribery. It's just that I am giving my advice to offer and recover the money. Most HR professionals hint to the vendor indirectly to pay the HR a certain commission. The vendor is getting a commission for the closure. They know most vendors will never go for legal actions. They simply harass the vendor by stopping the payment. Most recruiters do not know that 80 to 90% of managers take money in some way. Some say it directly, and some just give hints. If the company does not have finance, they can issue post-dated cheques, but they do not do so as it's part of vendor management. If your money is stuck, would you not like to recover it as early as possible? If by this approach, she recovers her money, it's totally a business.
Hello job_connect_consultancy, what you are suggesting to Manasi is TO BRIBE the HR person.
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TS
From India, Mumbai
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As a startup company, you would have to bear with situations like this, especially at the beginning. You should not see that revenue as a life-and-death need. Keep following up with the client once in a while and continue to support the client. You would have to wait until you get a clue as to why they are deferring the payment. There should be a reason why you find the client a very good one, and your organization has a good relationship with the client. You should not get desperate for the payment. It often happens that delays are due to some constraints on the client's side. If you could help resolve them, it might open doors for more business. Be optimistic and continue your support. Understand the business dynamics better. Good luck.
From United States, Ogden
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Although you have the legal contract paper, please ask for an email reply from the concerned person. With these two things, you can email or contact the HR head and explain the issue. I believe your client will release the payment upon the completion of three months of your candidate in the client's office.
For more details, you can contact me at [Email Removed For Privacy Reasons].
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Manaswita Rudra
Manager HR
From India, Shiliguri
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For more details, you can contact me at [Email Removed For Privacy Reasons].
Regards,
Manaswita Rudra
Manager HR
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Steps to Avoid Similar Problems with Clients
Here are some steps that could help you avoid similar problems:
1. Do some background validation of each potential client through your personal network, contacts, etc.
2. Speak to other vendors or ex-employees of the organization as a whole. There is a lot of information out there that could help you.
3. Being assertive and not bending over backwards for every request from the client manager would help you in the long run.
4. Be clear on what services your firm can comfortably offer (based on an objective assessment of your own strengths). Do not take on additional work if you do not have the resources to deliver.
5. Make it a point to visit your client at least twice a year, even the outstation ones. This helps build trust and credibility and also puts a face to the voice on the phone. :-)
6. Lastly, see if you can partner with others to represent your firm and follow up if required.
I hope the above helps.
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Shashidhar
From India, Mumbai
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Here are some steps that could help you avoid similar problems:
1. Do some background validation of each potential client through your personal network, contacts, etc.
2. Speak to other vendors or ex-employees of the organization as a whole. There is a lot of information out there that could help you.
3. Being assertive and not bending over backwards for every request from the client manager would help you in the long run.
4. Be clear on what services your firm can comfortably offer (based on an objective assessment of your own strengths). Do not take on additional work if you do not have the resources to deliver.
5. Make it a point to visit your client at least twice a year, even the outstation ones. This helps build trust and credibility and also puts a face to the voice on the phone. :-)
6. Lastly, see if you can partner with others to represent your firm and follow up if required.
I hope the above helps.
Thx
Shashidhar
From India, Mumbai
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Dear Manasi,
Reasons for Payment Delay
This delay in payment can be for two reasons. Firstly, if the company thinks that the person supplied by your firm may not stay for 3-6 months and you, being new in business, may not replace them free of cost (according to the clauses in the agreement). They will have faith in you after a few dealings. But this can be explained to them. Professional behavior is expected from both ends.
Secondly, if they are facing some payment crisis, you can accept payment in parts. As suggested by our Super Moderator, one can be assertive but should never be aggressive to the extent of using abusive language in any communication with a client.
Regards,
Prithvi Pal Singh
From India, Mumbai
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Reasons for Payment Delay
This delay in payment can be for two reasons. Firstly, if the company thinks that the person supplied by your firm may not stay for 3-6 months and you, being new in business, may not replace them free of cost (according to the clauses in the agreement). They will have faith in you after a few dealings. But this can be explained to them. Professional behavior is expected from both ends.
Secondly, if they are facing some payment crisis, you can accept payment in parts. As suggested by our Super Moderator, one can be assertive but should never be aggressive to the extent of using abusive language in any communication with a client.
Regards,
Prithvi Pal Singh
From India, Mumbai
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Legal option is the last one. Take the person through whom you are dealing into confidence. Speak with him in detail. Tell him that since you are new, you would require funds, and this is very important for day-to-day operations.
Also, inform him that paying the bills in stipulated time helps in good corporate governance and relations.
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Murali Prasad
From India, Ahmadabad
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Also, inform him that paying the bills in stipulated time helps in good corporate governance and relations.
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Murali Prasad
From India, Ahmadabad
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One of the most commonly faced problems companies encounter is using a service and not paying for it. This situation is quite shameful and is prevalent among both big and small companies.
I do agree that, regardless of how negative the response may be, maintaining a professional image will always prove beneficial in the long run.
Blacklisting Defaulting Companies
I was wondering if there is a common platform where one can blacklist companies. Is there a website that maintains a list of blacklisted companies for various reasons? If any of you are aware of a website or forum where we could blacklist defaulting companies, please let me know.
From India, Bangalore
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I do agree that, regardless of how negative the response may be, maintaining a professional image will always prove beneficial in the long run.
Blacklisting Defaulting Companies
I was wondering if there is a common platform where one can blacklist companies. Is there a website that maintains a list of blacklisted companies for various reasons? If any of you are aware of a website or forum where we could blacklist defaulting companies, please let me know.
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As a startup, it is commendable that you are learning this early. However, unless you are prepared for advancement and partial release, things are likely to continue in this manner. Since your client is out of station, please arrange to meet with them by Monday when they will be available. Avoid weekends. Politely emphasize to them that non-payment is a serious matter and may result in legal action. Even if the situation persists, you will have no choice but to issue a notice to the client. Remember, you can always reconcile before pursuing legal action.
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Pandu Ranga
From India, Hyderabad
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Pandu Ranga
From India, Hyderabad
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I do not know whom u r contacting. get in touch with the top man (owner) and express ur concern. try this, this should work.
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Hi Manasi, I faced something similar with an outstationed client. As Octavious has rightly mentioned, you've got to get in touch with the decision-makers of the company and explain the situation to them. I received my fee after speaking to the highest authority in the company. Although it might be a bit difficult, keep trying. While attempting to contact the higher authority, don't stop sending follow-up emails to the person you are currently in touch with. I know it's really frustrating, but don't stop trying.
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Amisha
Resource Solutions
From India, Bangalore
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Amisha
Resource Solutions
From India, Bangalore
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Treat this as a learning tool to deal with diverse situations that arise, whether it is non-payment of dues or anything related. I would also suggest you directly approach the top managing authority. Talk to them in a very professional manner. Tell them that this will affect the future relations of the company adversely if no action is taken immediately. This will create an impact, I think. Be very genuine in your words. Finally, I always say, "Hope for the best and prepare for the worst," so that you are always well-equipped.
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Praveen Dixit
SM
From India, Pune
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Praveen Dixit
SM
From India, Pune
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I suggest having the signed agreements with the clients before picking up assignments. Sometimes, in a hurry and the need for business, this step is overlooked.
Always obtain the vacancy details from the official email address of the HR or concerned person who has assigned you the task.
Ensure you acknowledge the invoices sent and make continuous follow-ups, preferably in writing.
In this case, it is advised to only make follow-ups (FUP's).
Sometimes, you may need to share the list of such organizations on networking sites, which, in turn, prompts the organization to make payments themselves.
Regards,
Murali Prasad ES
From India, Ahmadabad
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Always obtain the vacancy details from the official email address of the HR or concerned person who has assigned you the task.
Ensure you acknowledge the invoices sent and make continuous follow-ups, preferably in writing.
In this case, it is advised to only make follow-ups (FUP's).
Sometimes, you may need to share the list of such organizations on networking sites, which, in turn, prompts the organization to make payments themselves.
Regards,
Murali Prasad ES
From India, Ahmadabad
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