Seniors, please tell me,
What is wrong in the sentence if I write 'We all wishes you Happy Birthday' instead of 'we all wish you happy birthday'? How big of a mistake is it grammatically? Please help me to come out of this confusion.
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15What is wrong in the sentence if I write 'We all wishes you Happy Birthday' instead of 'we all wish you happy birthday'? How big of a mistake is it grammatically? Please help me to come out of this confusion.
Thanks
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Dear User,
As the layman always said, "keep it simple"... Most companies keep birthday cards with a simple message, "Happy Birthday," along with the company logo and signed off by the group HR head. The sentence you mentioned is grammatically incorrect.
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Dhiraj
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As the layman always said, "keep it simple"... Most companies keep birthday cards with a simple message, "Happy Birthday," along with the company logo and signed off by the group HR head. The sentence you mentioned is grammatically incorrect.
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Dhiraj
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Thanks Pon , You made my day by saying "Both the sentences are acceptable. " I was very conscious since yesterday....................................... Thanks a lot........
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Dont leave the Focus, the objective behind sending these lines was to wish somebody, and not to show that you fully understand the grammar.
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Sure, Prateek, I know it was a mistake, and I need to work on that. I expressed my happiness to Pon because the quote was circulated in the office. If it is correct, I may not feel embarrassed, which I am since yesterday.
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Hi Ravitashukla1,
"We all wish you a Happy Birthday" sends across a message as if you are just conveying the birthday wish. Whereas "'We all wish you a happy birthday' sends across the same message; however, it includes the conveyor (i.e., in this scene, you) too in the group of other people who are wishing.
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Rahul
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"We all wish you a Happy Birthday" sends across a message as if you are just conveying the birthday wish. Whereas "'We all wish you a happy birthday' sends across the same message; however, it includes the conveyor (i.e., in this scene, you) too in the group of other people who are wishing.
Thanks & Regards,
Rahul
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Hi, I think the fact that you sent out the Birthday wishes should be the focus here, English grammar is not always easy...and I am English :-)
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We all "wish" is as correct as the "Why Kolabori the" language is correct as Tanglish and as Malayesians write as they speak (school for school, Teksi for Taxi, Bas for Bus, Vhay for danger Dhobi for Laundry etc).
It is as correct as if we write "We all like" or "we all go to-- If you do not consider basic grammar, everything may be correct.
I did not know the meaning of BTW. My children (now all top executives in India and in the USA) were mailing me for some days recently over a "Circuit Mail" with 12 members in our family. BTW stands for "by the way," I learned from my younger daughter, an Associate Professor in IIT-Madras.
Circuit Mail is for 12 members written from 4 stations (USA, Chennai, Visakhapatnam, and Bhubaneswar) every day which is read by everybody. One mail provides all important matters of everybody for everybody. So we encourage creativity and innovation in communication in such usages.
With regards and best wishes to everybody. Prafulla K Acharya
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It is as correct as if we write "We all like" or "we all go to-- If you do not consider basic grammar, everything may be correct.
I did not know the meaning of BTW. My children (now all top executives in India and in the USA) were mailing me for some days recently over a "Circuit Mail" with 12 members in our family. BTW stands for "by the way," I learned from my younger daughter, an Associate Professor in IIT-Madras.
Circuit Mail is for 12 members written from 4 stations (USA, Chennai, Visakhapatnam, and Bhubaneswar) every day which is read by everybody. One mail provides all important matters of everybody for everybody. So we encourage creativity and innovation in communication in such usages.
With regards and best wishes to everybody. Prafulla K Acharya
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Dear friends , Grammar is life of any language, a fact not to be missed.Best wishes. Aspirations
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Hi,
The sentence definitely has a grammatical mistake. Since it's a well-meant, sincere wish, I am sure nobody will look down on you for the error. But please check with other senior members of your faculty or company to avoid making another grammatical error next time. It might not look good for the Human Resources image. No hard feelings, friend. Have a blessed day.
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The sentence definitely has a grammatical mistake. Since it's a well-meant, sincere wish, I am sure nobody will look down on you for the error. But please check with other senior members of your faculty or company to avoid making another grammatical error next time. It might not look good for the Human Resources image. No hard feelings, friend. Have a blessed day.
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Let us not confuse issues. It is important that the message is conveyed. OK. But it is also important that we write correctly. There is nothing wrong in learning to write correctly.
The sentence "We all wishes you a happy birthday" is grammatically incorrect. The grammatically correct forms are as follows: I wish. You wish. We wish. He wishes. She wishes. Mr. X wishes. Mrs. Y wishes. Mr. & Mrs. X wish.
Message is indeed important. Conveying it correctly adds value to it.
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The sentence "We all wishes you a happy birthday" is grammatically incorrect. The grammatically correct forms are as follows: I wish. You wish. We wish. He wishes. She wishes. Mr. X wishes. Mrs. Y wishes. Mr. & Mrs. X wish.
Message is indeed important. Conveying it correctly adds value to it.
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Dear All,
Please have a look on grammar, As per Grammar rules. We can’t use s and es with 1st and 2nd person. s or es should be used with 3rd person only.
So "We all wish you happy birthday" is correct one because here we is representing 1st person.
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"We all wishes you Happy Birthday" is wrong because es is used with wish. It should be wish only. If you are using es with wish then stance will be (They all wishes you Happy Birthday)
e.g I want, You want, He wants. See the difference, here we added s with 3rd person only.
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Please have a look on grammar, As per Grammar rules. We can’t use s and es with 1st and 2nd person. s or es should be used with 3rd person only.
So "We all wish you happy birthday" is correct one because here we is representing 1st person.
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"We all wishes you Happy Birthday" is wrong because es is used with wish. It should be wish only. If you are using es with wish then stance will be (They all wishes you Happy Birthday)
e.g I want, You want, He wants. See the difference, here we added s with 3rd person only.
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Though the first one is grammatically wrong, in communication, I always believe that it must be assessed in the light of Context, Intent, and Content (CIC). Here, the context was a birthday, the intent was to wish your friend, and the content was your feelings in the form of best wishes. So your communication is perfect; no need to worry.
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Buddy I do agree that it’s the matter of feelings. But the question is that how the sentence is wrong? So we have to correct the sentence. Being a HR professional we should be a COACH as well as MENTOR.
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what is the difference in these two sentences when its shows your gratitude towards one. kb
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Message cannot be so important than the method or the language. It is stupid to send such incoorect messages.
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Hi Lokender,
This is the present indefinite tense. In such tenses, "s" or "es" is suffixed with the verb when the subject is the third person. Grammatically, your sentence should be: "We all wish you a happy birthday."
See another example: "He wishes you a happy birthday." This is correct because the subject "he" is the third person.
As advised by other learned professionals in this thread, it is better to keep things/messages short and simple to avoid grammar jargon.
Thanks and Regards,
Lokender
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This is the present indefinite tense. In such tenses, "s" or "es" is suffixed with the verb when the subject is the third person. Grammatically, your sentence should be: "We all wish you a happy birthday."
See another example: "He wishes you a happy birthday." This is correct because the subject "he" is the third person.
As advised by other learned professionals in this thread, it is better to keep things/messages short and simple to avoid grammar jargon.
Thanks and Regards,
Lokender
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'Wishes' can be as 'The organization wishes you , ' Company wishes you ' or ' We wish you ' 'All of us wish you ' etc. Very simple. Thanks and regards , Aspirations
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Dear friend,
As per correct grammar in simple present, if the subject is "He," "she," or "it," then "does" + verb (here - "wishes"). But if the subject is "I," "we," or "they" (you are both plural and singular), then "do" + verb (here - "wish" + "do" = "wish"). So the real mistake is - since the subject is "we," you need to use "wish."
Hope you are convinced.
Joseph.P.M
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As per correct grammar in simple present, if the subject is "He," "she," or "it," then "does" + verb (here - "wishes"). But if the subject is "I," "we," or "they" (you are both plural and singular), then "do" + verb (here - "wish" + "do" = "wish"). So the real mistake is - since the subject is "we," you need to use "wish."
Hope you are convinced.
Joseph.P.M
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There is a grammatical mistake. Since you are addressing only one wish, hence the next sentence is correct: "We all wish you a Happy Birthday."
For multiple greetings (I have never heard such a thing), "We all wish you a Happy Birthday and a Happy New Year!" (If the birthday falls on New Year's Day!)
Make sense!
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For multiple greetings (I have never heard such a thing), "We all wish you a Happy Birthday and a Happy New Year!" (If the birthday falls on New Year's Day!)
Make sense!
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When third person singular then only wishes to be used for plural should use only wish (grammatically)
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"we all wish you happy birthday". is correct grammatically as "we" is plural. Third person singular then we have to write "wishes"
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"We all wishes you Happy Birthday"...is wrong because the subject in this sentence is 'We' is the subject and it's clearly plural so the verb needs to be plural and 'wishes' is a singular verb. It ideally should be "We all wish you a happy birthday'.
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Dear all,
Although it is grammatically incorrect, such greetings should be viewed in the context of the situation, the people involved, and the manner in which it is expressed. It is not a serious error as one can easily overlook such minor mistakes on such occasions. Happy birthday. However, please strive to avoid such mistakes in the future.
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V. Rangarajan.
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Although it is grammatically incorrect, such greetings should be viewed in the context of the situation, the people involved, and the manner in which it is expressed. It is not a serious error as one can easily overlook such minor mistakes on such occasions. Happy birthday. However, please strive to avoid such mistakes in the future.
Regards,
V. Rangarajan.
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Yes, both are acceptable; however, grammatically you are wrong. Sorry to say this. But where's the problem? Just say sorry and thanks to that guy who has corrected you and tell him/her that from next time you will take care of this. That's all. We should not feel shame in apologizing. It's good that your own company friend/seniors have corrected you, not any outsider.
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If you are too strict in English, then you have to consider all as singular. You know the line “All is well”. Rule is simple: s/es with 3rd Person Singular Number.
You can write the sentence as follows:
We, all wishes you a happy birthday.
We wish you happy birthday.
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You can write the sentence as follows:
We, all wishes you a happy birthday.
We wish you happy birthday.
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Agreed that the message is important, but saying that both sentences are perfect would be wrong because the first one is grammatically incorrect. Keeping it simple would be a better thing to do. Just say "Happy Birthday."
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Subject - Mistake in Birthday Wish Thread Topic Post
Seniors, please tell me, what is wrong in the sentence if I write 'We all wish you Happy Birthday' instead of 'we all wish you happy birthday'. How big of a grammatical mistake is it? Please help me to come out of this confusion.
Thanks
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Dear Mr. Ravi,
You have written "wishes." According to grammar, it should be "wish."
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Subject - Mistake in Birthday Wish Thread Topic Post
Seniors, please tell me, what is wrong in the sentence if I write 'We all wish you Happy Birthday' instead of 'we all wish you happy birthday'. How big of a grammatical mistake is it? Please help me to come out of this confusion.
Thanks
Your behavior is a reflection of what you truly believe.
Dear Mr. Ravi,
You have written "wishes." According to grammar, it should be "wish."
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Both the sentences are wrong. It could be quoted as "Wishing you a lovely Birthday" or "Many Many Happy Returns of the day" or a simple "Happy Birthday," and we could write below on behalf of the company's name.
It is very important to be precise in grammar in today's world. The point is not to discourage you, but it is always good to learn.
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It is very important to be precise in grammar in today's world. The point is not to discourage you, but it is always good to learn.
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The message is important, but it is better to practice good English. The subject "WE" is plural, so "We wish you a happy birthday" is the correct sentence. You can use "wishes" when you use a singular subject (I is an exception), for example: "Sheela wishes."
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Dear Mr. Ravi,
I agree with Sridhar's reply. It is important to convey the wishes but not necessarily in a grammatically accepted sentence. People should understand the warmth of your wish, not the correctness of the sentences or words. Stop worrying about such things and people because they can't add anything to you or to themselves.
Vijay.Ch
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I agree with Sridhar's reply. It is important to convey the wishes but not necessarily in a grammatically accepted sentence. People should understand the warmth of your wish, not the correctness of the sentences or words. Stop worrying about such things and people because they can't add anything to you or to themselves.
Vijay.Ch
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The word wishes used for singular person. While the word wish used for plural. Regards, Shruti Sharma
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It is not how the person receives the message, but it is very very important to follow grammar while framing sentences, it can be a two word message or a 100 page message
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Hi Ravi,
I strongly belive that grammer plays an important role in any of the emails sent by HR. A HR has to ensure that the mails sent out to the whole company are correct in all aspects as we don’t want anyone making fun of such emails.
Comming to your sentenses
"We all wishes you Happy Birthday " - WRONG, you are not suppose to use plural
"we all wish you happy birthday". - RIGHT
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I strongly belive that grammer plays an important role in any of the emails sent by HR. A HR has to ensure that the mails sent out to the whole company are correct in all aspects as we don’t want anyone making fun of such emails.
Comming to your sentenses
"We all wishes you Happy Birthday " - WRONG, you are not suppose to use plural
"we all wish you happy birthday". - RIGHT
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We all wish you a Happy Birthday instead of "we all wish you happy birthday." The second one sounds better. When one uses "we," it means all should avoid using "all" there. The correct phrasing would be "We wish you a happy birthday" or "Wishing you a happy birthday." However, these days grammar is not cared for in wishes as it is not a grammatical expression but an expression of feelings.
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Dear Ravita shukla,
Yes, there was mistake in the sentence.
But why to feel embarace? Everyone commits mistake – some knowingly or unknowingly.
Only take care that the same mistake should not repeat. I mean learn from it sportingly. Relax..
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Yes, there was mistake in the sentence.
But why to feel embarace? Everyone commits mistake – some knowingly or unknowingly.
Only take care that the same mistake should not repeat. I mean learn from it sportingly. Relax..
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Hi all LET US STOP THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE SOME ONE CALLS IT STUPID, LET US CONTINUE WITH A NEW SUBJECT AND DEBATE ON IT, THERE ARE SOME MANY SUBJECT WHICH CAN BE DISCUSSED. JOHN
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Dear Ravita,
In response to your question "We all wishes you Happy Birthday," "We all" itself is plural, so there is no need to attach a plural with wish. The correct sentence is "We all wish you Happy Birthday."
It is a grammatical error, no doubt, but we can't determine whether it's big or small. In the corporate world, some people like to make a hue and cry over small issues. So just ignore it and keep doing good work.
Warm Regards,
Ruchi
Sr. HR Executive
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In response to your question "We all wishes you Happy Birthday," "We all" itself is plural, so there is no need to attach a plural with wish. The correct sentence is "We all wish you Happy Birthday."
It is a grammatical error, no doubt, but we can't determine whether it's big or small. In the corporate world, some people like to make a hue and cry over small issues. So just ignore it and keep doing good work.
Warm Regards,
Ruchi
Sr. HR Executive
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We all wish you a happy birthday instead of "we all wishes you Happy Birthday." The message is more important than grammar. But why indicate that one is poor in language, especially for such simple English? You can even write "BIRTHDAY WISHES FROM ALL OF US"!
Ensure there is a single line break between paragraphs.
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Ensure there is a single line break between paragraphs.
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Dear All,
In my opinion, making grammatical mistakes when wishing is not acceptable. It shows a lack of preparedness. Someone who is very grammatically sound will definitely take this matter seriously. However, we should always use correct grammar, and there is no harm in doing so.
Regards,
ArthG
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In my opinion, making grammatical mistakes when wishing is not acceptable. It shows a lack of preparedness. Someone who is very grammatically sound will definitely take this matter seriously. However, we should always use correct grammar, and there is no harm in doing so.
Regards,
ArthG
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Dear Seniors,
Thanks to all for your suggestions, corrections, and explanations. Please suggest some good books on grammar. I know my spoken English is good, but I still need to work on grammar.
Thanks,
Ravitashukla
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Thanks to all for your suggestions, corrections, and explanations. Please suggest some good books on grammar. I know my spoken English is good, but I still need to work on grammar.
Thanks,
Ravitashukla
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Dear Ravi, Red and Martin English Grammar book is the best one I have known so far and helped me a lot. Else others recommendation are always welcome.
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Hi THERE ARE MANY GRAMMER BOOKS IN THE MARKET, HOWEVER, THE BEST WAY TO LEARN GOOD GRAMMER IS BY READING DAILY NEW PAPER ( OLD OR NEW) AT LEAST FOR 15 MINUTES. JOHN
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Though "we" is plural, the verb will always be in singular form. Hence, we wish you a very happy birthday.
Similarly, we never say "I wishes you happy birthday"...instead, we say "I wish you a very happy birthday" or a simple birthday wish would also suffice.
It's up to you to decide whether the two sentences you quoted would really be appropriate. The first sentence clearly indicates your poor command over the language, whereas the second sentence indicates a good command over the language. So, what would you like to portray?
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Similarly, we never say "I wishes you happy birthday"...instead, we say "I wish you a very happy birthday" or a simple birthday wish would also suffice.
It's up to you to decide whether the two sentences you quoted would really be appropriate. The first sentence clearly indicates your poor command over the language, whereas the second sentence indicates a good command over the language. So, what would you like to portray?
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You can say — -" all our best wishes to you on your birthday! " or "we all wish you a happy birthday !"
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Dear Members,
Having observed the present-day status of communication in most of the low/medium-level Arts and Management Institutions and colleges in the capacity of Faculty and HR consultant for 15 years, I must admit that the business English and conversational English used by the majority of youngsters is far from the average standard—let alone excellence.
It is time these youngsters start introspecting themselves on their current performance capabilities in different fields and in different situations. They apply and use the SMS and mobile language, which needs a separate brain to understand in our head. Their attention is more towards chatting on useless and senseless things, songs, and the internet beyond the normal acceptable levels.
V. Rangarajan.
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Having observed the present-day status of communication in most of the low/medium-level Arts and Management Institutions and colleges in the capacity of Faculty and HR consultant for 15 years, I must admit that the business English and conversational English used by the majority of youngsters is far from the average standard—let alone excellence.
It is time these youngsters start introspecting themselves on their current performance capabilities in different fields and in different situations. They apply and use the SMS and mobile language, which needs a separate brain to understand in our head. Their attention is more towards chatting on useless and senseless things, songs, and the internet beyond the normal acceptable levels.
V. Rangarajan.
From India, Pune
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