Hi Seniors, I am so confused, please help me. I am a newcomer to the current employer. The HR Director directly recruited me, but now she has been let go because all the managers here don't like her (she is also new). This situation means I may have to go as well. All the managers dislike her way of management, and they also have issues with her subordinates (I am an HR executive). Please advise me on what to do. I love this job, and I really want to stay. Thank you so much!
From Vietnam, Hanoi
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Stay put there if you love the job. This is temp. phenomenon which will subside in due course of time. Pon
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I suggest that if you really want to continue working there, you should, apart from all hurdles, keep on doing your job and give your best. Moreover, if your director has to leave, it doesn't imply that the whole team has to leave. So, you must work hard and leave the rest to management.
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Mynguy, Put your best effort towards work and prove that you can handle your job efficiently and more important gain the trust of your management. Thanks,
From Kuwait, Hawalli
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Understanding the Problem and Building Rapport
Go to each manager and understand the problem in person. Please realize that when you go to each of them, it is not just about understanding the problem but developing a personal rapport with each of them, which is a critical aspect where your earlier manager has apparently failed badly. Ensure that you don't make the same mistake and just complain about the sudden unpleasant development. Your manager quitting does not automatically mean that you have to quit.
Also, you are mentioning she was new, so you have even more opportunity to do what she could not do as a manager, i.e., develop a good relationship with the functional managers as a new entrant into the organization. The HR function is a support function and has to play a supportive role in fulfilling the core business activities, managing constraints related to resource availability, readiness, productivity, and performance. It cannot be carried out as an independent function with unilateral decisions, without considering the opinions of other managers.
Talk to each manager and communicate clearly your thoughts on how best you can support them. Quitting just because your manager has quit indicates timidity and incapability.
You have an opportunity to perform and showcase your capabilities. Make the best use of this opportunity and meet the expectations to the best of your abilities.
Good luck.
From United States, Ogden
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Go to each manager and understand the problem in person. Please realize that when you go to each of them, it is not just about understanding the problem but developing a personal rapport with each of them, which is a critical aspect where your earlier manager has apparently failed badly. Ensure that you don't make the same mistake and just complain about the sudden unpleasant development. Your manager quitting does not automatically mean that you have to quit.
Also, you are mentioning she was new, so you have even more opportunity to do what she could not do as a manager, i.e., develop a good relationship with the functional managers as a new entrant into the organization. The HR function is a support function and has to play a supportive role in fulfilling the core business activities, managing constraints related to resource availability, readiness, productivity, and performance. It cannot be carried out as an independent function with unilateral decisions, without considering the opinions of other managers.
Talk to each manager and communicate clearly your thoughts on how best you can support them. Quitting just because your manager has quit indicates timidity and incapability.
You have an opportunity to perform and showcase your capabilities. Make the best use of this opportunity and meet the expectations to the best of your abilities.
Good luck.
From United States, Ogden
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I agree with Praveen too. You can develop a good relationship with your functional managers/superiors and other colleagues. Try to understand everything there, but do not align yourself with any specific group as you are new to the organization and have much to learn. You also need to understand the culture and atmosphere of your workplace, so I would suggest being cautious in your actions.
You mentioned that your HR director is also new to the organization. Given her senior position, she likely has significant experience. Sometimes, it takes time for employees to understand each other and adapt to their new superiors' working styles. She also needs time to adjust to the organization's culture.
Your managers need to communicate clearly on how they can best support each other. Just because they are unhappy with her working style does not necessarily mean she is deviating from the organization's goals and objectives. It could be a matter of differing work styles. Everyone has their own approach to work, and your other managers have their unique styles as well. It will take time for them to understand each other's ways of working.
You need to observe and understand the dynamics at play and learn from the situation. This experience will serve as a valuable lesson and help you navigate similar challenges in the future.
From India, Gurgaon
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You mentioned that your HR director is also new to the organization. Given her senior position, she likely has significant experience. Sometimes, it takes time for employees to understand each other and adapt to their new superiors' working styles. She also needs time to adjust to the organization's culture.
Your managers need to communicate clearly on how they can best support each other. Just because they are unhappy with her working style does not necessarily mean she is deviating from the organization's goals and objectives. It could be a matter of differing work styles. Everyone has their own approach to work, and your other managers have their unique styles as well. It will take time for them to understand each other's ways of working.
You need to observe and understand the dynamics at play and learn from the situation. This experience will serve as a valuable lesson and help you navigate similar challenges in the future.
From India, Gurgaon
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Your company appointed you, not your boss; your boss only acted on behalf of the company. So, as long as you keep working in favor of the company, your job is secure there. Bosses will keep on changing, which does not necessarily mean the subordinates should keep on changing in batches accordingly. That's not how corporates work. Keep up your good work, and all other things will fall into place.
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TAREQ HAMID, Manager - HR
From Bangladesh
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Regards,
TAREQ HAMID, Manager - HR
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Agree with praveen kumar Keep engage with others; wait and watch for result Do not forget to say " Good Morning"
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The impression of the HR department is based on the team's performance. Managers must see value addition from HR to respect HR. Running away is not a solution. I am sure if you love your job, you would like to bring back the desired professional respect to HR. This will come if you understand the expectations of managers from HR and put in some solid efforts to bring that change. Don't get carried away with the current feelings/image of your boss. Stay there, think, make efforts, and bring change. The amount of change is not important; any positive change would reflect opinion change.
Go ahead. All the best.
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Zakir
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Go ahead. All the best.
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Zakir
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Hi Mynguyen244, my suggestion to you is to continue your job. Because if you change your company, can you promise yourself that you are going to get a good boss? So never be afraid of situations, people, tasks, bosses, and many more. Go ahead and face the situation. Give 100% to your job. That won't put you in any trouble with your boss. All the best for your career.
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Santosh
From India, Hyderabad
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Santosh
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I am so confused, please help me. I am a newcomer to the current employer. The HR Director directly recruited me, but now she was dismissed because none of the managers here like her (she is also new). It means I may have to leave as well. The managers dislike her management style and also her subordinates (I am an HR executive). Please advise me on what to do. I love the job and really want to stay. Thank you so much!
Understanding Management and Proving Your Value
First, you need to understand the management. You have to demonstrate your value through your work style and efficiency. There is no need to engage in any form of favoritism within the management, whether towards your subordinates or superiors. In this situation, you must prove yourself through your work without making excuses. Showing a positive attitude towards your colleagues will work in your favor.
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From India, Delhi
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Understanding Management and Proving Your Value
First, you need to understand the management. You have to demonstrate your value through your work style and efficiency. There is no need to engage in any form of favoritism within the management, whether towards your subordinates or superiors. In this situation, you must prove yourself through your work without making excuses. Showing a positive attitude towards your colleagues will work in your favor.
Regards
From India, Delhi
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Dear Chandan,
Some do's and don'ts as given on the EPF organization site are reproduced here. You and other members may like to benefit from these points of guidance:
DO'S FOR A MEMBER:
1. While joining an establishment, furnish details of previous employment, if any, with the previous Provident Fund account number and scheme certificate.
2. In case of an existing Provident Fund/Pension account, apply for the transfer of the previous account number to the present account number.
3. Ensure that the employee furnishes a form with details of the previous Provident Fund account number to the Employees' Provident Fund Organization.
4. Execute form-2, with details of self, nominee for Provident Fund and pension, details of family, and ensure it is forwarded to the Employees' Provident Fund Organization by the employer.
5. Ensure that the particulars furnished are correct in all respects.
6. Ensure enrollment in the Employees' Provident Fund/Employees' Pension Scheme immediately upon joining the establishment.
7. Provident Fund is deducted at the statutory rate from the total wages, i.e., basic, D.A., and retaining allowance if any.
8. If desirous of enhancing the rate of contribution, inform the desire with the higher rate opted for to the Employees' Provident Fund Organization through the employer and allow the employer to deduct at an enhanced rate from the wages.
9. If the wages drawn are more than Rs. 6500/-, intimate your desire to contribute on the whole amount to the Employees' Provident Fund Organization through the employer. The employer can also contribute on the whole amount drawn as wages under intimation to the Employees' Provident Fund Organization.
10. Check periodically with the employer that contributions and other charges are paid to the Employees' Provident Fund Organization and ensure its correctness by verifying the form-3A (contribution card) maintained by the employer.
DON'TS FOR A MEMBER:
1. Don't give false clarification and incorrect particulars to the Employer and Employees Provident Fund Organization.
2. Don't fall victim to middlemen/agents. The Employees' Provident Fund Organization does not have any agents.
3. Don't allow the Employer to deduct his own share of contribution or administrative charges payable by him from the wages.
4. Don't be a party to misclassified allowances with a view to avoid payment of Provident Fund.
From India, Delhi
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Some do's and don'ts as given on the EPF organization site are reproduced here. You and other members may like to benefit from these points of guidance:
DO'S FOR A MEMBER:
1. While joining an establishment, furnish details of previous employment, if any, with the previous Provident Fund account number and scheme certificate.
2. In case of an existing Provident Fund/Pension account, apply for the transfer of the previous account number to the present account number.
3. Ensure that the employee furnishes a form with details of the previous Provident Fund account number to the Employees' Provident Fund Organization.
4. Execute form-2, with details of self, nominee for Provident Fund and pension, details of family, and ensure it is forwarded to the Employees' Provident Fund Organization by the employer.
5. Ensure that the particulars furnished are correct in all respects.
6. Ensure enrollment in the Employees' Provident Fund/Employees' Pension Scheme immediately upon joining the establishment.
7. Provident Fund is deducted at the statutory rate from the total wages, i.e., basic, D.A., and retaining allowance if any.
8. If desirous of enhancing the rate of contribution, inform the desire with the higher rate opted for to the Employees' Provident Fund Organization through the employer and allow the employer to deduct at an enhanced rate from the wages.
9. If the wages drawn are more than Rs. 6500/-, intimate your desire to contribute on the whole amount to the Employees' Provident Fund Organization through the employer. The employer can also contribute on the whole amount drawn as wages under intimation to the Employees' Provident Fund Organization.
10. Check periodically with the employer that contributions and other charges are paid to the Employees' Provident Fund Organization and ensure its correctness by verifying the form-3A (contribution card) maintained by the employer.
DON'TS FOR A MEMBER:
1. Don't give false clarification and incorrect particulars to the Employer and Employees Provident Fund Organization.
2. Don't fall victim to middlemen/agents. The Employees' Provident Fund Organization does not have any agents.
3. Don't allow the Employer to deduct his own share of contribution or administrative charges payable by him from the wages.
4. Don't be a party to misclassified allowances with a view to avoid payment of Provident Fund.
From India, Delhi
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