Dear All,
Many of us keep a sand bucket for fire extinguishing in case of fire. Some of the auditors say it should be kept, and some others said that sand creates environmental hazards as it contains silica. So please suggest whether fire buckets should be kept or not. Or any other suggestions that you want to give or guide.
From India, Udaipur
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203Many of us keep a sand bucket for fire extinguishing in case of fire. Some of the auditors say it should be kept, and some others said that sand creates environmental hazards as it contains silica. So please suggest whether fire buckets should be kept or not. Or any other suggestions that you want to give or guide.
From India, Udaipur
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Dear Hansa, You may use fire extinguisher for the safety purpose instead of sand bucket. Regards Ashutosh
From India, Kollam
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Dear Ashu,
We have a sufficient number of fire extinguishers. I just need to know if there is any law, amendment, or discussion point that sand should be used as an extinguishing agent due to silica, some health, or environmental issues maybe there.
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Hansa
From India, Udaipur
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We have a sufficient number of fire extinguishers. I just need to know if there is any law, amendment, or discussion point that sand should be used as an extinguishing agent due to silica, some health, or environmental issues maybe there.
Regards,
Hansa
From India, Udaipur
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Hi,
You can always keep the sand buckets for fire safety. There are two clauses here:
1. Basically, silica referred to here is the purest form of sand. But it is always safe to use the purest sand to put out the fire; there is no harm in it.
2. Avoid the sand from becoming wet while you dispose of it; it won't neutralize with the normal sand surface. We are ISO 14001 certified, and no questions are raised regarding the usage of sand buckets.
If you refer to the Factories Act rules 61, the water buckets can be replaced with sand buckets in case of a Class B fire.
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You can always keep the sand buckets for fire safety. There are two clauses here:
1. Basically, silica referred to here is the purest form of sand. But it is always safe to use the purest sand to put out the fire; there is no harm in it.
2. Avoid the sand from becoming wet while you dispose of it; it won't neutralize with the normal sand surface. We are ISO 14001 certified, and no questions are raised regarding the usage of sand buckets.
If you refer to the Factories Act rules 61, the water buckets can be replaced with sand buckets in case of a Class B fire.
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Dear Hansa,
I would like to support what Mr. Christopher has added. When it comes to the creation of environmental hazards due to the use of Fire Buckets, it's very debatable. If we consider this context, every activity has an impact on the environment, for example, the use of Washrooms. We have to apply the concept of ALARP and choose our actions accordingly.
If the auditor raises this point, ask him to provide the logic with reference to the law or legislation supporting his submission.
Please continue the practice of using fire buckets. Fire buckets are even mentioned in the NBC as a first-aid firefighting equipment.
From India
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I would like to support what Mr. Christopher has added. When it comes to the creation of environmental hazards due to the use of Fire Buckets, it's very debatable. If we consider this context, every activity has an impact on the environment, for example, the use of Washrooms. We have to apply the concept of ALARP and choose our actions accordingly.
If the auditor raises this point, ask him to provide the logic with reference to the law or legislation supporting his submission.
Please continue the practice of using fire buckets. Fire buckets are even mentioned in the NBC as a first-aid firefighting equipment.
From India
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Interesting topic.. but what is the environmental hazard of using sand ??? deserts and beaches are full of sand and that too is a part of our environment.
From India, Hamirpur
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From India, Hamirpur
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There is no law or regulation prohibiting the usage of a sand bucket as a fire extinguishing medium. Silica may not affect a person when the sand is being used in normal conditions. During sandblasting operations, the sand is pressurized, creating a large volume of dust particles, which increases the risk of inhalation and ingestion of silica. Therefore, sandblasting is banned. I hope I am correct.
From India, Bangalore
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From India, Bangalore
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Please explain about ALARP concept. I am requesting all our colleagues to mention in full while using acronyms / abbreviations as all of us may not familiar.
From India, Hyderabad
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From India, Hyderabad
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Well noted your point. Can you please do a Google search on the term ALARP and find out the answer to your questions yourself? I am requesting you to first try to find out the answers by doing a self-search on Google or using the research option at the top of this page before raising queries.
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Dear Sir, I did not wish to trouble you. Certainly will search. I suggested for full form of abbreviated and acronyms, as it will give an initial idea about it. Thank you very much.
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yes..I agree fine silica inhaled for long may result to chronic health issues, but I am not still not clear about the environmental impacts of using silica.. if anyone wanna share his knowledge...
From India, Hamirpur
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Sometimes, some auditors behave like this. They do not think about the issue in a holistic way. Somehow, they tend to show their authority and misuse the whole concept. In all our day-to-day activities, we come across many such issues. As Dipil rightly said, one has to use the most practical solution.
If sand is hazardous, what is the alternative? Fire extinguishers? Is using chemicals not hazardous? Practically, once the fire is extinguished with whatever means, the remains are collected and disposed of safely.
Next time such stupid suggestions are given by the auditor, suggest to them to use a bicycle to come to your place instead of a car/bike/scooter which pollutes the air.
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Nandish
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
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If sand is hazardous, what is the alternative? Fire extinguishers? Is using chemicals not hazardous? Practically, once the fire is extinguished with whatever means, the remains are collected and disposed of safely.
Next time such stupid suggestions are given by the auditor, suggest to them to use a bicycle to come to your place instead of a car/bike/scooter which pollutes the air.
Regards,
Nandish
From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
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