View Poll Results: The available options are
Labour Office 21 72.41%
Dharna, Non cooperation 4 13.79%
Legal, going to court againt management 11 37.93%
Reporting the lapse to the affliating university 10 34.48%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

Anil.arora
Administration Head
Gowramma
Soft Skills & English Trainer
Cite Contribution
Community Manager
Tajsateesh
Recruitment/talent Acquisition, Career Counselling
Premkumar Nair
Manager (hr)-retired
RAMAKANT R
Accounts Manager
Vivian Chandrashekar
Aast. Gen. Manager-hr
Sundar_mpm
Man Management Functions
+1 Other

I am posting this on behalf of faculty and staff members of a private engineering college. The college is maintained by a family held trust chaired by an ex-MP. The management is not paying the faculty and other staff salaries for the last ten months. Our repeated requests and representations have yielded no positive results so far. The management is postponing salary disbursement. What should we do to get our salaries? Keeping the welfare of the students we are working there.Now all our financial resources have dried up. What are our options? Kindly guide us.
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Non-payment of salaries needs to be reported to Labour commissioner's office . I wait to hear from our legal experts on how to resolve this . Were there any internal communication or memo issued on the delay or stating any reason ?
Dear Gowramma,
If yours is approved college by AICTE (Regional Office, and H.O. Delhi), please take up the matter to AICTE as well as to the Director, Technical Education.
I think this can help you.
Ramakant
Hi, Gowramma in your query you stated that Management is not paying salary even after several request but forget to present the reasons of it. Until you share complete details, it would not be proper to say anything so far, therefore, please complete your query with answers and reasons given by your Management.

Second, you said that from last 10 months you were not paying by Management, so what action you have taken so far to tackle this problem and how many members/employee are not being paid by them?

@(Cite Contribution), the query is incomplete and not any legal expert or advisory can say anything until the aforesaid details provided by Gowramma

@Gowramma, also please do share the establishment details of this Private Engineering College along with the location

About the proposed actions plans under poll by you..

Labour Office: You also have to file a petition or request by furnishing complete details of this case and reason. it will also take some time as they have their own procedure of work.

Dharna, Non cooperation: is also not an good idea because this ultimately can go against you or say can harm you in many how which also would not be legal

Legal, going to court against management: To take legal action, like i above said, you also have to file a request/petition, and here before going further, you have to lodge a complaint/FIR against them. This can be a good action because this case also comes under the violation of rule related social rights and living but to take action you also have to present complete details first on why this has happened , therefore, I suggest you to give details to our legal experts and they will direct you rightly.

Reporting the lapse to the affiliating university: As Mr Ramakant said that you can raise your concern with AICTE which is a good idea but AICTE also want you to file a petition or a report that can be help them to take their own procedure to go for ACTION against them and to get an inquiry of whole case

Now you can understand what actually is required most and how and what action you can take

Lastly, as you have approached and trusted us, I request you to give complete details so that CiteLegal Experts and other respective seniors can help you further.
Dear Gowramma, Mr.Anil Arora Sir,
Really this is a problem with many of the Educational Institutes who are just playing with students. Admitting the students and fetch the Fees Amount and not provide the proper education. But in this case, on the top of it Default of Salary Payments to Staff.
Hats off to the all staff who supported the management for working for more than 10 months without any credit to their account and to co-operate the students.
In this case there is a possibility that after admission of new Batch of 2013-15 the payments can be released against the Fees Collection. But again the same history will take place in future for next educatioinal year.
Some one has to act in very tactfully fashion that "HINDI - SAAP BHI MARE AND LATHI NA TUTE.
After all the staff and students are going to suffer at all the times.
Regards.
Ramakant
@Ramakant, well if the students are enrolling themselves without getting well recognition of University and Institutions because of possible and expected financial benefits (less fee payment and so on), I would say they are actually playing with their own career and life themselves.

Moreover, the respective staff members (working with an Engineering Collage) are in support by this way because they continuing their job from last 10 months and not doing anything concerning awareness, which I believe, must have taken the actions and also like complaint in Police against Collage Authority and with AICTE /Education Administration Authority timely. But, if there no action been taken, they are automatically responsible for this too and ruining students and their own life I would say.

Well, before saying more about what staff member of this Engineering Collage had to do or what they didnít, I would like to have response from GOWRAMMA as the query is still incomplete (I stated in my earlier response) which can direct this case study further appropriately.
Respected Mr.Anil Arora,
I am working as Account Manager with one of the best Engineering in Pune i.e. COEP. I know well about the infrastructure required to produce the good engineers in future who are the pillars of the future Indian Technology.
The hanky fanky institutes are spoiling the entire emage of Education this may lead towards mess in near future.
The staff of Gowaramma College should take the proper action.They should make the life measurable of the Management and restore the situation. I do totally agree with you that this staff is indirectly responsible for this scrumble.
Regards
Ramakant
Hello Gowramma,

Anil Arora has mentioned a very salient point--pl give the reasons 'as given by the management' AND 'as per your own understanding of the situation'.

Frankly, you found time to mark your Appreciation to his & Ramakant's responses & suggestions, but didn't find the time to answer any of their queries.

@ Anil/Ramakant--

Let me give a snapshot background of the various private professional colleges in Andhra Pradesh [applicable to at least 75-80% of them]. ALL the colleges HAVE AICTE recognition--else they wouldn't have got the other Local Governmental Clearances to operate.

Most of the colleges were started during the period 2005-2010--quite a few thru 'hiring' of faculty [rather than appointing them] for the AICTE Inspection visits during the initial stages [have seen it myself, being 'requested' to handle such assignments--needless to mention, didn't buy it]. But that isn't the main story.

The Governmental Policies are such that these colleges are ALLOWED TO INVARIABLY depend TOTALLY on Fee Reimbursement schemes [which began as a 100% Reimbursement] for running the colleges--Thanks to the initial Policy Structure formulated in 2005-2008. As everyone knows, it takes ages for any governmental funds to flow in. That's where the Faculty gets hit...and pretty badly. Those living in AP would be aware of this--given that many College Associations went active publicly last year to get the Fee Funds released from the AP Govt. I think the issue also went to the High Court of AP.

Given this scenario, suggest the members to give their opinions & advice suitably to Gowramma.

Rgds,

TS
The matter posed by you is very painful. Teachers are not at all respected in this society. When I once mentioned in the Faculty Forum, the same, I was given a fool's cap, OK it is kept aside now.

Labour Commissioner is not the right authority to take up the issue, because, Faculty Members of a College are not workman as per the definitions.

Laws are not for safe-guarding the interests of faculty members of a College.

Being Teaching Fraternity, you are all to joj together to meet the Management, i.e., the Promoter of your College, say a Chairman, Secretary/Correspondent as per the nomenclature. .Being Educated characters, the faculty members can and are not expected to expose the unruly behaviour, because teachers are the role model and makers of the Society.(May be the reason, the Management of Colleges take undue advantage) Discuss the matter with a clear communications by posing your problems faced at your domestic front.

Even inspite of your soft approaches if your Promoter put deaf years, you have no other option in taking up the matter to the University,i.e., Vice Chancellor or Registrar to do justice to you. Please send a Registered Letter to University Grants Commission or AICTE by explaining the entire episode.

Please intimate this to your College Promoter about your actions as above, so that let him know and understand that you are all serious in this matter.

If the University Authorities are not caring your grievances, you have no other alternative to refrain yourself from attending the College and please do not worry about the Education/Students. Everything has a limit When the tolerance and patience are taken to a task, you have to take stringent measures.

Also meet the Education MInister of your State to handle this burning issue. Media may also be of help to you.

Lastly, please try to secure a job in other colleges, because,............? You know the remaining..



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Apart from what our seniors had advised, I would suggest to write or meet the Director of Technical Education who is directly responsible for the administrative affairs of technical institutions and appraisal for release of grants, etc. I am sure this would help you to redress your problems.
Rgds.
Dear Gowramma,

As for as Recovery of Wages is concerned:

It looks that all your request with management has turned down and as a last resort, you may have to do the following. You all should be prepared to have a strained relationship with management or else management will give you sweet talk and make you to go further drain.

First - All the faculty together, give representation to management regarding non payment of wages with copies to a) Labour Commissioner b) AICTE /Education Administration Authority c) Labour Minister both at Central and State d) Education Minister both at Central and State. If nothing is working, then you may have to move to Civil Court and Labour Court for recover of dues.

As for as Life is concerned:

The faculty members belongs to working class. Without wages, sustaining is difficulty. Each will have family, children may be studying. Life will be tough without wages. There are employer who don't care to pay in spite of pressure from authorities.

To sustain you need work which can gives wages is more important. It is for you and your other colleagues to look for alternative employment or else life will become more dangerous. It will give rise to family disputes where the bread earner will loose respect and peace. You can recall an employees wife in Kingfisher (King of good times) killed herself for similar reasons. Don't wait for things to go out of hand. Act immediately since I can understand the pain you all going through. I am sure, most of you are depressed and it is a difficult phase.

This is one of the options and you may choose advise of other members who have contributed here.

All the best.
Dear Friends,
Thank you very much for your concern and advices. These are the details of the college in question:
Jogaiah Institute of Technology & Sciences, College of Engineering and College of Pharmacy, Palakol was established in August 2007 under Chairmanship of Sri. Chegondi Harirama Jogaiah (Ex-Member of Parliament). The Institute is approved by the All India Council for Technical Education (AICTE), New Delhi and is affiliated to Jawaharlal Nehru Technological University (JNTU), Kakinada.
With regards.
Dear,
Every problem is having some causes behind them. Kindly discuss your complete querry, then we will able to understand every aspects of problem and will suggest action according to that.
1. What the staff were doing if Management not given salary from last 10 months.
2. What is the real cause for not providign salary by mgt. is there any conspiracy going on.
Reg.
Nishant Pandey
Dear Mr. Nishant Pandey,

The staff is asking for salaries repeatedly since August, 2012. We have been told that the salaries will be cleared once fee reimbursement from the government is credited to the college account. We are sweet talked into wait until the reimbursement. Finally, a couple of months back the reimbursement is credited to the college account. But the amount is adjusted towards the loan repayment of a scheduled bank which gave loan to the management. Again, we approached the management for salaries. The management is now telling us that it is trying to raise a loan from private parties to clear off our dues. We came to know that the management is trying to sell the outfit some other party. We are not sure that the loan will materialize. We have no assurance of our pending salaries, if the management is successful in selling away the institution. The management has nothing to lose as the property values have gone up and it will be suitably compensated for whatever investment it had made on the college.

Regards.
Dear,

Whatever I understand that management is not vice with employees and playing big game and conspiracy with employee benefits. My advice to you that for a formal employee association rather fight individually with management and also keep note that there is no need to show-off by any one person, otherwise management would be take more agressive action against individual person. And start formal conversation with management regarding your salary issues and problem behind this and don;t forget to show-off your family problem by all these. Also keep maintaining record of all these communications and share with other employees for maintaining transperancy among you. Because this will be your first step against management and management will also try to break your group solidarity.

Further you can send your formal complain regarding management behaviour to the AICTE (or other approval authority, whatever), Local Government, Police Intimation (to secure you from any false complain by mgt.) State Govt. Education Dept / educaiton minister, Labour Commisioner and labour court. Also consult with any good labour lawyer (better any relative of your colleague who is lawyer or labour lawyer). Give at specific time period to college management to release your salary through proper medium and keep record of all the things.

Do all these things and share with us progress in this issue.

All the Best.

Regards
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