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My employer has filthy fines system. If u are late by even one min you have to come 15 min early on any day in same month or pay fine of 100.
You don't wear ID within 30 min of ur arrival to work pay 100 etc etc

From India, Shillong
Hi, As a corrective measure please try to follow the rules without fail so as to avoid fines. This will be the prudent act rather than looking for short cuts to evade the action.
From India, Madras
But dont you feel its to another level. Our work time is 9 - 6.30. Even if I miss 1 sec. I would have to fine of 100. Where as there is no count on log out. Time extends even till 10 sometimes. Why should we be charged fine when we are late by 1 sec where as we are not let out at sharp 6.30 pm.
As an employee we would feel its not a organization to work. Being in Bangalore there is chances of being late sometimes.
I feel it is employer who has to understand the employee as well. If this is the condition then, we at these organizations will not have work life balance.
Can a employer charge such fines on employee?

From India, Shillong
Hello,
Something must have compelled your employer to charge such fines. Check out the incidences in past that must have forced to have this decision.
Nevertheless, charging fine for few seconds' late arrival does not seem justified. Don't you have the system as 'grace period' in your company?
You may approach your employer /HR to initiate discussion on this topic peacefully.

From India, Pune
Your employer has put a good system in place to curb the undisciplined employee. If the fine is giving you pain, then be disciplined and adhere rules & regulation of the organization.
From India, Mumbai
Most of the respondents seem to have responded from the point of view of discipline rather than the limitations of an employer's statutory right to impose fines as well as his moral right to look into specs with a punitive attitude. As it is I am quite unable to differ with them so far as discipline in employment is concerned. However, I should point out that most of the employers running certain types of industries do not adhere to the statutory working hours and do not pay any O.T wages for extra work nor they respect the notice clauses of the contract of employment and permit the employees to have a peaceful exit is the ground reality exhibited through frequent and similar painful questions raised in this Web site.
Coming to the present question raised from the frustration of a hapless employee created by ruthless bossing-over, I am not sure that as of now whether the poster falls within the purview of the definition " employed person " under the Payment of Wages Act,1936 or a "workman" under the Industrial Employment (Standing Orders ) Act,1946 to seek appropriate legal relief against such actions of the employer. [ Fortunately, the yet to be enforced Labor Code on Wages takes away the ceiling on wages/salary of the employees ].
Of course, Sec.7(2)(a) of the PW Act,1936 recognizes "fines" as an authorized deduction under the Act. But levy of fines by the employer is subject to the conditions laid down in sub-sections (1) to (8) of Section 8 of the same Act. If the employer fails to comply with any of these statutory conditions it will tantamount to unauthorized deduction leading to a claim u/s 15 of the Act.

From India, Salem
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