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I the undersigned working as a Corporate Manager-H.R./IR.at pune my comp.comes under Shop and establishment Act.
We want legal opinion regarding Final settlement dues when to be paid? Can we write in appointment letter that your Full and final settlement can be done after three(3) months of your last day of service.or can we write on our letter of resignation accepted.We use to give relieving letter to him,saying that Management has accepted your Resignation dt.---------- and we will relieving you on--------.you may collect your dues(if any) after obtaining necessary clearance certificate.
in that letter can we write that your dues will be settled after three (3) months, from your last day of working.instead of Appointment letter.
19th October 2018 From India, Pune
All the clearances to be completed before 30 days from last day of working.
19th October 2018 From India, Pune
Sir Actually all dues should be cleared before issuing acceptance letter compiling an underlined sentence that this company has no financial unpayments regarding your fnf.
This is a good formula. Or else you can take a week of intimated assurance.you can mention in Appointment letter adding as far aslabour laws applicability...on your job service at that time.
19th October 2018 From India, Nellore
Dear Jayant,
Can you pl mention the authority underwhich 3 month's time can be taken by the employer to pay the F&F Settlement dues?
If you analyze the term "F&F Settlement", you will find it to normally comprise of surrender value of leave at credit on the date of termination, retrenchment compensation and notice salary if applicable, gratuity if eligible, salary or wages for the last spell of duty period etc. each of which has a specific period for its disbursement. As far as I know, none of them has such along duration of three months or more.
At the best, as rightly observed in general by our friend Prashant, it should not exceed more than 30 days from the date of termination of employment. The only exception is the proportionate bonus for the service rendered in the Accounting Year for which if the bonus has not been declared on the date of termination.
20th October 2018 From India, Salem
Dear Nisaljayant,
It has been clear that full & final settlement of an outgoing employee has to be made immediately after collecting no dues certificates and other formalities.
At the most you can clear it in fifteen to twenty-thirty days.
In the same manner you can give a relieving letter as mentioned by you without the content of dates for the settlement amounts, because it is the bounden duty of employer to clear the employees dues unless the employee is not submitting the no dues.
20th October 2018 From India, Hyderabad
To
Mr.umakanthan-
Sir,
Thanks for your prompt reply.
I want to add some more information to you that ours is a partner firm.having owners wife
and his father is a partners,If suppose they have pass Resolution that Final dues will be paid
after 3 months from date of reliving.So that we can write on Resignation acceptance letter
that as per comp.policy we will clear your final dues within three(3) months.
Is it legal?or any alternative pl.
Jayant nisal
corporate Manager-H.R./I.R.

7875757963
23rd October 2018 From India, Pune
If Shop Act is applicable to you then all the Payments/Wages/Minimum Wages/Salary need to be paid as per ACT only.
As per you your Firm/ Establishment is owned by Managed by Owners only so can they pass resolution that " No one will get salary in this firm?"
If answer is NO means even your Establishment need to follow minimum rules & regulations by the Government. Right?
23rd October 2018 From India, Pune
Dear Jayant,
Neither the constitution of an establishment nor the social or advantageous status of its owners can confer any rights to override the provisions of the Laws of the land applicable to the organization run by them. That apart, contracting out i.e., agreeing not to do something specified in Law is not permitted in Indian Labour Laws.
23rd October 2018 From India, Salem
Hi,
Please can i know managers are eligible for Overtime after working hrs
7th January 2019
Dear anonymous friend,
If you try to understand the meaning of the term " manager " in the back drop of the concept of management, I think such a question would not arise at all. To put it simple, a manager is a person responsible to run a part or the entire operations of an organization through effective utilization of the resources including men at his/her disposal to achieve the overall objective for which the organization stands. As such, it follows that the normal duties of a manager are not coterminous with the working hours of the persons under his/her control. However it does not mean that a manager has to be on duty 24X7; he also needs the time for rest, leisure and to discharge his family and social responsibilities like any other human being. But his prime position in the organizational hierarchy grants him the freedom to prioritize his works and that apart the higher compensation package offered will also, in my opinion, naturally negate the claim for overtime by any manager whether he belongs to top, middle or supervisory level.
7th January 2019 From India, Salem
In continuation of the post of learned Mr.Umakanthan, though it may not directly relevant to the query, a judgment passed by the SC in the matter of OT to managerial personnel (gist as attached) worth taking note of HR practitioners especially in Factories and to those the ID act would apply. I would like to know of any relevant issues recently decided in the matter.
7th January 2019 From India, Bangalore

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