Saswatabanerjee
Partner - Risk Management
Ed Llarena, Jr.
Owner/ Managing Partner
Loginmiraclelogistics
Asso.prof.(commerce & Management) Pg
+7 Others

Hi everyone.. I just want to tell you if one of worker's salary was increased by the management more than his supervisor should not HR speak about that with the management? What do you think? Please give your comments
Thank you
10th December 2017 From Sri Lanka, Colombo
1. why management taken such decision
2. Does it mean that management do not know the salary of supervisor?
3.Is thesalaryrevision is done without knowledge of HR?
4. Is it like that management dont want services of the supervisor?
10th December 2017 From India, Pune
Supervisor and worker must be in two different grades.
What are the rules for grant of increment?
It is HR only who takes up for grant of increment etc.
What reason has been quoted for the grant of increment of this nature?
Needs to be looked into as it could upset relationship between worker and supervisor and among workers itself.
10th December 2017 From India, Pune
It seems your establishments does not have proper salary bands which often leads to this anomalous situation.The queries asked by the seniors will help you locate it. Frame a grade-wise salary structure to prevent such overlapping in future.
B.Saikumar
HR & Labour Law Advisor
Navi Mumbai
10th December 2017 From India, Mumbai
Who has granted the increment ?
How is it that it was done without hr knowing about it ?
As such some highly skilled workers may be paid higher than the supervisors. We need to know the complete details of the matter. Questions with vague background rarely gets you anything other than academic answers
10th December 2017 From India, Mumbai
I also agree to Mr. Saswata Banerjee. In manufacturing company it happens. In our company we also pay higher amount to highly skilled workmen. It depends on their skill set on particular job, years of experience and market rate. If you consider a case of boiler welder then a boiler certified welder gets Rs 40,000/- to 50,000/- per month but a supervisor may not get that much of amount with same years of experiance.
11th December 2017 From India, Bhubaneswar
Dear colleague,
As stated by experienced professionals, it is reality that a worker with certain skill set, experience and market rates draws more than junior supervisor. Here the issue is salary of a worker is increased more than that of Supervisor's without HR being involved. This is not done as HR can bring a different point of view in the people decisions which is his forte and to bypass him and take such decision goes against the grain of the organisation and bound to cause ripples.
Regards
Vinayak Nagarkar
HR-Consultant
11th December 2017 From India, Mumbai
Hi! This situation (salary of staff is higher than his supervisor) is what we call (in compensation) SALARY DISTORTION.
The distortion of salaries can always happen when a company has no valid Salary Structure that is based on appropriate "job grades" and "job classes".
The situation in some countries (like India) is really problematic because it confuses the use of the term "salary component" as the "salary structure".
To avoid salary distortion, companies must adopt a valid Salary Structure that is based on Job Classification and Job Grading. A salary structure that has valid job classes and job grades will be able to define the "rate range" of each job grade and job class. Hence, supervisors will always have higher job grades --- and therefore higher salary rates. Non Supervisors will also have their respective rate ranges --- but always lower than supervisors.
Please remember that your company must always have a Salary Structure that is compliant with the first compensation principle of Internal Equity -- i.e. big jobs must be paid more than small jobs. Hence, the giving of higher salary to a staff (that is more than the supervisor) violates the first principle and should be corrected.
Best regards.
12th December 2017 From Philippines, Parañaque
Dear Friend,
It is a bad decission. This type of decission will demoralise the working groups. There should be hirerarchy in payment as per with the position. You may keep even one rupee difference. Why your management took such a decission without consent of HR, they know only. It is a biased decission.
12th December 2017 From India, Mumbai
If a subordinate deserves higher salary than his supervisor because he ie equipped with better skills, then promote him to higher grade to avoid anomalies, failing which it may lead to other consequences like subordinate not obeying supervisor's instructions or disrupting team spirit or as Prabhat said,demoralizing supervisors who shoulder more responsibility for less salary.That's why grading of posts with corresponding salary bands can avoid this anomaly.
B.saikumar
HR & Labour Relations advisor
Navi Mumbai
12th December 2017 From India, Mumbai
#Anonymous
But regarding this at the starting point of approval received, it has to be discussed and inform them that if you are going to salary more or equal to supervisor with same experience in the company then you have to ask them to change the designation as well.
If its not going to be done, then the supervisor salary has to been changed asap so that it doesn't match to the employee. If it has done recently that do the changes asap, before someone highlights like union and all.
12th December 2017 From India, Hyderabad
The Queriest (Superior) says that the worker's (who is his subordinate) salary is increased by Management more than his salary. Generally, subordinate means those who work under the Superior and also report to him for all his works and in such situations; Management consider increase of Salary or Promotion etc., based on the recommendation of the Superior who will be the Section / Dept.Head; to maintain discipline of work in the concerned Dept. As rightly pointed out by some of the Members; Overlooking or disregarding Superior will not only demoralise Superiors but also affect his control and responsibility to accomplish Dept.work. Let us hope the Queriest will reveal all facts for the infn. of Members and to give proper comments. 12.12.17.
12th December 2017 From India, Mumbai
Dear All:
Your apprehensions and misgivings of how a worker can be given a higher salary than his supervisor / boss are outright illogical. Whatever the statutes and the HR manuals may say, as to who gets what - both in terms of salary and slabs - do not forget the performance - both in terms of roles and jobs - may have excelled in case of the worker, and may have even gone beyond that of the supervisor.
Performance and output with a keen insight on the mission statement, and the vision, may perhaps have the worker poised to be the CEO one day.
Also we need to change our management language - all are associates, and contextually, all are workers
13th December 2017 From Pakistan, Karachi
It happens very often. And there is no restrictions to avert this nature. For the sake of understanding the underlining fact, the President of India is the highest employee of Indian government who in fact draws salary lesser than many of his colleagues in the ministries, defence & other sectors. Similarly salary of MLAsS & MPs. These differences cannot be considered as an anomalous on the plea the service conditions are different. And excepting govt. rules there is nothing to prevent a subordinate or junior drawing more salary than his/her superiors. But in no way the supervisor would be considered inferior to his subordinate despite his/her higher salary. The hierarchy does not get vitiated by this fact.
3rd January 2018 From India, Bangalore
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