Jeevarathnam
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We are a small training and consulting firm (<10) where most of our employees are on client site.

Needed response to following queries on PF/ESIC

1. Can Employers do voluntary registration for PF -- We are less than 20 employee company but are customer wants a compliant vendor hence we would want to register. Can we do it only for required employees & take undertaking from others that we do not want to be included in PF

2. The customer says they have third party liability what is this exactly and hence we need to comply though we do not fall in that category?

3. For PF registration online its asking for First Name Last name Fathers name etc -- so is this the director registering on behalf of Company? Employers PAN is Private Limited Company PAN or Directors PAN?

4. How much time does the PF registration take do i get an acknowledgement which proves that i have applied for PF.

5. What is applicability of PF & ESIC ie when to go for PF V/s ESIC.

6. Can Employer take PF only for required employees deputed on customer location

7. Are there restrictions on opting out of PF /ESIC

8. If employer has less than 20 and still has to go for PF apart from voluntary registration is there any other option .

HI
For ESI registration you need 10+ employees
For EPF registration if you have employed 20+ employees then its mandatory & if less than 20 then you can opt for voluntary registration
1) Yes you can avail voluntary registration. If you register with EPF them all the employees who are earning Basic+DA+retaining allowance less than 15000/- they are forced to cover under EPF & any one earning above 15000/- may be exempted.
2) If any employer hires contract employees then the principle employee are foced to cover even the contract employees under EPF/ESI
3) First name, Last name etc belongs to the director & PAN number is of the company PAN card
4) You will get the EPF registration number with in a week
5) already explained refer the initial discussion
6) Refer Sl. No 1
7) Yes there are
8) If less than 20 employees you can avail voluntary registration

Please Provide me the registration procedure for School registered under co-operative society.
we have 14 employees and all employees salary more than 21000. we are doing voluntary coverage in PF. is ESIC registration mandatory with PF
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