Hi
I agree with sarita as such no appointment letter is there they can't do anything and otherwise if they ask for any legal action ask for the termination letter which they can't give.
If they give, can't terminate you thru SMS as illegal and
if they don't give,also can't have proof for any legal action.
So don't be afraid off such things..
If they give any 2nd chance to join just tell them yours is not a good organisation for Human Relation....
thnx
tarun
From India, Lucknow
4I agree with sarita as such no appointment letter is there they can't do anything and otherwise if they ask for any legal action ask for the termination letter which they can't give.
If they give, can't terminate you thru SMS as illegal and
if they don't give,also can't have proof for any legal action.
So don't be afraid off such things..
If they give any 2nd chance to join just tell them yours is not a good organisation for Human Relation....
thnx
tarun
From India, Lucknow
hi frmds good day to all
seen the query above when there is no appointment letter given to an employee then how can an employer cliams the candidate as an on roll employee, ridiculous and u said that u had signed an non disclosure document , pls clarify me whether in that did u came across any specifications regarding appointment/contract/termination. if not then never mind nothing can be done by that employer, u just go with wat u have decided,
ha i forgot to ask u this one u got salary increment did u received any order counter signed by u . if so reply me
regards
ram
From India, Madras
seen the query above when there is no appointment letter given to an employee then how can an employer cliams the candidate as an on roll employee, ridiculous and u said that u had signed an non disclosure document , pls clarify me whether in that did u came across any specifications regarding appointment/contract/termination. if not then never mind nothing can be done by that employer, u just go with wat u have decided,
ha i forgot to ask u this one u got salary increment did u received any order counter signed by u . if so reply me
regards
ram
From India, Madras
unless and untill you were recruited on an offer letter or an appointment letter accepted by you, there is no legal commitment from you to the company.then, dont give any repayment. they just cant take any legal action.if they do some thing, mail to me,let us see what can be done as per Nhrc regulations.
regards
keshav
From India, Bangalore
regards
keshav
From India, Bangalore
have you received your appintment letter ,check the terms and conditions ,as per my guess bonded labour is legally not a correct...anyways dontworry
From India, Hyderabad
From India, Hyderabad
every month I have signed in salary voucher only. they didn't gave any increment order . They told they increse my salary upto 8000 and displayed in the notice board. next month i signed voucher for Rs. 8000. Then like all company i signed Non discloser Statement.
I thank all good people like you to guide us.
From India, Madras
I thank all good people like you to guide us.
From India, Madras
In the labour act, it is clearly specified the number of working hours and the same is to be exhibited in the premises. In as much you are working 9-12 hours, you are entitiled for over time.Working in late hours, the organisation should obtain permission and facilities to be provided. More than that, your salary register should have more details.The wages paid to you should be in accordance with contract of employmnet. Your SMS is not a valid document. You can send a resignation letter mentioning all the allegaions and for that reason you are not interested to continue and send the same by RPAD. Then take a call with Labour officer, of your location. This is the safe and comfortable process to handle this issue.
gk
From India, Madras
gk
From India, Madras
Hi Dear, They can not take any of the action against you from the legal point of view. Bond and agreements are made just to mentally harrass the people. Regards, Rajeev Pandya Human Resources
From India, Ahmadabad
From India, Ahmadabad
Dear Donit
Since there is no appointment letter or offer letter , there are no terms and conditions of appointment as such. So dont worry , they cannot take any action against you .They are just trying to push you inot a corner.
The very fact that they sent such an sms and have not issued an appoinment order indicates what an unprofessional organisation (if it can be called so) it is.
In fact on the basis on the sms , the company could get into trouble. However you must take such things into consideration when you take up your new job.
But remember , today any company you go to may expect you to work longer hours than mentioned , except that professional companies may pay /compensate for the extra hours worked.
All the best
Kirti
From India, Bangalore
Since there is no appointment letter or offer letter , there are no terms and conditions of appointment as such. So dont worry , they cannot take any action against you .They are just trying to push you inot a corner.
The very fact that they sent such an sms and have not issued an appoinment order indicates what an unprofessional organisation (if it can be called so) it is.
In fact on the basis on the sms , the company could get into trouble. However you must take such things into consideration when you take up your new job.
But remember , today any company you go to may expect you to work longer hours than mentioned , except that professional companies may pay /compensate for the extra hours worked.
All the best
Kirti
From India, Bangalore
Dear...
This is not at all valid..
First, u need to check the number from where the SMS came. Then you need to ask them who sent this SMS and on what grounds. In case, they tell you that it is official, tell them you wont accept it till the time it is in writing and on papers
Second, even if you dont have an appoinment letter, what was the mode of salary payment to you. In case that was thru cheque, that is enough ground to prove that you are/were an employee of that organisation. In case that was in cash, they must be getting some receipt signed from you.
You can go to your office and ask them either
(a) to let you work (which you definitely wont want now)
or
(b) provide you with relieving letter or you would take them to court (tell them you have already hired some lawyer).
Try to be harsh and professional with them. You need not worry as they cant do any damn thing to you...
Your case is strong and you need not pay a single penny to them...
From India, New Delhi
This is not at all valid..
First, u need to check the number from where the SMS came. Then you need to ask them who sent this SMS and on what grounds. In case, they tell you that it is official, tell them you wont accept it till the time it is in writing and on papers
Second, even if you dont have an appoinment letter, what was the mode of salary payment to you. In case that was thru cheque, that is enough ground to prove that you are/were an employee of that organisation. In case that was in cash, they must be getting some receipt signed from you.
You can go to your office and ask them either
(a) to let you work (which you definitely wont want now)
or
(b) provide you with relieving letter or you would take them to court (tell them you have already hired some lawyer).
Try to be harsh and professional with them. You need not worry as they cant do any damn thing to you...
Your case is strong and you need not pay a single penny to them...
From India, New Delhi
Hi
First of all you don't have to worry.
Since they didn't give you any offer letter, appointment letter and you told that you are getting the salary through voucher it means you were not on the rolls of that company. So they can't take any legal action against you.
If you would not sign that agreement then at that time your situation will be like a person who comes in company to repair the photocopy machine gives bill take his payment through voucher and goes away.
SMS is not a valid way to terminate, dispense of suspend any employee.
And the question of give them refund of Rs. 2500 (8000-5500) is really ridicules when you are not a legal employee of the company when u r not the rolls of the company then why should you refund the money?
They can’t do anything against you.
They are saying all these things to you just to create the fear so that you’ll not leave and stay.
Regards
Sushma
From China, Beijing
First of all you don't have to worry.
Since they didn't give you any offer letter, appointment letter and you told that you are getting the salary through voucher it means you were not on the rolls of that company. So they can't take any legal action against you.
If you would not sign that agreement then at that time your situation will be like a person who comes in company to repair the photocopy machine gives bill take his payment through voucher and goes away.
SMS is not a valid way to terminate, dispense of suspend any employee.
And the question of give them refund of Rs. 2500 (8000-5500) is really ridicules when you are not a legal employee of the company when u r not the rolls of the company then why should you refund the money?
They can’t do anything against you.
They are saying all these things to you just to create the fear so that you’ll not leave and stay.
Regards
Sushma
From China, Beijing
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