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Thread Started by #Annamark

Hi Experts,
I am a married male and my wife is not living with me and not get divorce yet.
Here I wish to nominee as my parents in my EPF (Employee provident fund) not my Wife, Is it possible to do that.
I got confused with term family means for married male.
Please help me on this, My parents are totally depend on me, After my death I wish them to use MY EPF for their survival.
Thanks
Anna
22nd September 2016 From India, Bengaluru
Family for a Married Male member is his wife, his children, whether married or unmarried, his dependent parents and his deceased sonís widow and children; Therefore, you can nominate any one from this to receive your PF amount after the person is no more.
22nd September 2016 From India, Mumbai
Sir you can change your nominee without any hesitation if you have upload your details online on epfo website you can also change there talk with your HR about this matter he can change your nominee easily epf amount is yours,you are tha owner of this money so you can change same as bank if you want to change your nomination in bank you have to provide him written request for same,
22nd September 2016 From India, Panipat
Thanks Swetley Thanks MandeepAnnamark I submitted the Form to HR with parents as my nominee. I submitted the Form to HR with parents as my nominee.
23rd September 2016 From India, Bengaluru
At Madras High Court in order dated 8th September 2016 it has been held that legal heirs as per Hindu Succession Act (whether nominee or not) are entitled to get terminal benefits, since nominee is only a trustee to get money on behalf of legal heirs and ownership right is not vested in nominee irrespective of provisions of the contrary in service rules.
23rd September 2016 From India, New Delhi
Hi Mikky,
Sorry I couldn't understand the LAW terms completely.
is it like my wife will get the complete money even if I don't add her in nominee list?
Kindly help me to understand it.
Thanks
Anna
24th September 2016 From India, Bengaluru
Hindu Marriage Act & Indian Succession Act will play an important role in your case.

As you said you are in the process of divorce ;

once you get divorce from court her claims will definitely be settled through Permanent Alimony.

Now question arises here is that maintenance can be claimed by both Parents & wife (including children's)(but quantum will be decided by court)

with regards to nominee, I would request you to keep your parents as nominee , making their will that in case of their death the benefits will pass on to you son/daughter if custody of your kids is with you.

So after you the benefits will go to the specified nominee by you (ie Parents), unless their is decree from the court stating that she shall be included. (This is only possible in the circumstances in case you die & their is no divorce decree passed in the court.)

Always keep in mind Parental Rights are more powerful than matrimonial Rights when your wife is working.

Consult lawyer other than lawyer who is handling your case regarding possible threats by law in favour of your wife.

Frankly speaking effects of westernisation has spoiled the environment

I would request you to keep your parents as nominee as it is safer option. (Ask HR of your company to fill PF nomination form on high priority basis, also take from HR Dept. the contact number of Consultant who is handling PF monthly submission of your company. Take photocopy of that proof, prepare file of the same along with your PF membership Id number & company PF Establishment code.

Abhijit Patil.
24th September 2016 From India, Mumbai
Hi Abhijitpat, Thanks a lot for information. I too feel its better to consult lawyer and take necessary action. Thanks again for your input. Thanks Anna
25th September 2016 From India, Bengaluru
nomination under EPF is fully under control of the contributory member
you can log in your UAN member account, and amend the nomination,
take a print of same, sign and submit to employer for digital attestetion
once digital approval is done, its done
there is no bar to nominate the parents or children in EPF
28th September 2016
Hi Annamark
There is an easy solution to your problem (as pointed out by Mikki and Abhijit
apart from updating your parents as nominees, you need to make a will giving all (or specific parts) of your property to your parents. In that case, the legal heirs are your parents and they will not be ordered by the court to give any part of the PF money to your wife.
Please note that the nominee forms filed before marriage are invalidated on marriage. But after marriage you can file fresh nomination forms to select any member of the family as your nominee....
29th September 2016 From India, Mumbai
Hi everyone, the guy who posted the question he was my husband and now I m his widow with one 8- months old daughter. He died by attempting suicide. He made nominee for his all property and all death benefits his parents and sister. His family through me out with my daughter. I m residing with my daughter in my parents home. His parents was his foster parents and foster sister. They got complete death claim from company and transfer to her 30 yes old daughter.
My husband had extra marital affair in his office and everyday beatted me and burned my daughter by tea. Because I was not ready for mutual divorce.
He planned with his parents against me and made drama by getting prescription from his mother and comsumed tablets for attempt to suicide. I admitted him and make payment for all his treatment. But at last after 15 days he died by heartattact. I spend all money on him.
Right now I and my daughter arecompletely depended on my parents. God punished him. Now his foster family enjoying his all money. And my daughter and I are suffering.
Is it right to make separate from any rights of women and her kid by creating will or remove from nominee.
I gave him my all money during my job and spend 3 yrs with him. Now I don't have any rights on his any money. Because he left will and made his parents nominee.
As some people in above comment suggested him.
What should I do? Let me know. I also have a question.
I should kill my daughter and myself by suicide?
Because wife is only a body for playing by getting licence from marriage and men realised after marriage he have parents also now wife is nothing and kid nothing
Us harami ko dusri sadi krni thi. Isliye us kutte he mere aur mere bachchi k sath anyway kia. Achcha h mar gya. Kitna bada dhokha CIA muje. Aur uske foster family completely fraud kutto ki Farah maregi.
And u people please provide such information to misuse by non sense people. I think people gave will suggestion I think he also planning fraud with his wife
4th May 2018 From India
Abijit, as u suggested wife is working then she is not more powerful than parents. But sir tell me one thing. If husband asked her for spending all money in home usage and wife also taking care of home, child, pets and in night entertain her husband. Then what are the rights for wife and now my child didn't get even a single rupees from her father settlement then who is suffering and who is innocent.
Now where are his parents, whose age are 75 and 80 years and their own daughter is 30 yrs old. And now my daughter is only 2 yrs old.
If men want to give his all money after his death to his parents and sister. Then what is a need of marriage and kid. Why he don't ask his physical and sexual need from sister and mother. Because in Indian law parental rights are more powerful to wife rights.
Then his sister and mother also fullful his sexual need because he had wife only for this.
This is shameful when man planed for violating wife and kid rights for his mean. Very shameful comment for the wife point of view.
4th May 2018 From India
Hi viewer,
I have request to all viewer. Please provide their comment on all above points and suggestions of topic.
So i could analys how much my husband and his fraud parents and sister were correct and me and my daughter are wrong.
And next viewer those are also planning for cheating his wife and kid must know how his wife and kid suffer after his suicide and parents enjoy with other son and daughter families.
17th May 2018 From India
Your matter is very serious and sensitive and whatever suggestions were given above were purely based on prevailing legal provisions of the land. By your submission it is presumed that your Divorce Case was going on in the Court while your husband passed away and no judgement is passed. Therefore, your right as a wife and also of your daughter still exists. You can challenge the will in a competent court citing all your genuine points mentioned hereabove through a lawyer and certainly you will be entitled your legitimate and rightful dues.
17th May 2018 From India, Mumbai
It is very shameful matter. Your husband and his parents cheated you including you. Its good he died.
His family will also punish by god.
30th May 2018
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