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Thread Started by #Shreeram Joshi

Dear All
I am working in one of the IT industry , I was appointed as a Recruitment Admin, but now they are giving me an additional opportunity & that is PF Admin. but :( Problem is that i dont have knowledge of PF at all , I know the Basics but practically how to do end to end process i dont know , Can some body help me out is this matter Plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Regards
Shreeram
16th December 2005 From India,
Hi Shriram,
PF is calculated on the Basic Salary of the employees. At present the minimum rate of PF is 12% of the basic salary subject to a maximum of Rs.6500/- per month. This may change time to time subject to Governments PF Law. <means it is not nessary to give PF those basic is above 6500>
Employee’s contribution to PF = 12% of Basic Salary subject to a maximum of Rs.780/- per month.
Employer’s contribution to PF = 12% of Basic Salary subject to a maximum of Rs.780/- per month.
rgds
deepu
16th December 2005 From India, Delhi
Hi Shreeram,
i would like to add. if any employee joins you with basic more than 6500 and he was the member of EPF with his/her previous employer. we have to keep continue his / her member of EPF.
To support your claim you need to get Form -11 under EPF from each employee.
Regards
Dabas
17th December 2005 From India, Delhi
Shriram,

I would also like to add on with regard tp PF

PF form 5 needs to be filled whenever there is new arrivals in your Company.

PF Form 10 of previous month for the leftover in your company.

Form 12 for monthly submission stating about the total employee contribution and total employer contribution. Here ou also needs to mention about the TEMP STAFF

Challan needs to be submitted in the State Bank of India and the last date for the same is 15 of each month ( with regard to delhi).

12 % Employer contribution is segregated in to 2 parts

8.33 % in Pension

3.67% in PF

But Employees contribution of 12 % each month goes to PF.

After Resignation Employee can finally have money after 3 months from the date of resignation and for the same PF form need to be submitted to PF Office only after 2 months from the date of resignation.

Employee can also transfer their PF Account to the new employer by getting Form 13 filled up.

The PF return neds to be submitted after every 6 months where in you have to shown till now how many contribution is made by you and your employee.

You can receive PF Slips for the contribution you have made and what is interest you have acrrued on the money which is lying with PF Office.

Deepa
17th December 2005 From India, Gurgaon
Dear Shriram
I am attaching herewith some presentations on PF and family Pension Scheme. Hope this may help you. Also some of our professional collogue have given update on PF contribution calculation and return related aspects.
It has been observe that we as a principal employer are very keen in deduction and remittance of PF Contribution. But most of the time we forget to pay attentions to different forms and returns to be submitted to the office of PF Commissioner.
With my past employer i have prepared an exhaustive check list which i'll try to attach by end of Dec as right now I am on International assignment.
Best regards,
Abhay
:lol:
20th December 2005

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Hi,
it was nice presentation on P.F.
As for the starter we should start with basic of P.F
1) P.F is deducted from basic salary.
2) Employeer contribution 12% and employee contributin 12%
3) For a new joining Form No Revised -2 is used.
4) New P.F nunmber is given by the company .for eg: if the last persons A/C No is HR/36c/180,next No.would be 181.182....so on.
5)P.F amount is depodited every month in the SBI bank.
6) for that u need FORM NO 5,10,Form No 12(A),Challans,with covering letter.
7) If an employee who joins ,but has P.F No,the same No.Can be transfered to new Org.
8) P.F returns are done annually(March-aprill)
9) To do the annual return u need from No.3(A) & 6.
10.Along with covering letter and copy of cahalans.
11) beside this its very important to maintain P.F legder,on monthly basis.
12)Try to fill P.F ledger,so that in the end its not a problem for u.
This is all about P.F.
Thanks N regards
Promila
20th December 2005 From India, Delhi
Hi Frns...
I'm suresh.k
and Its really plessure to meet all u people... hope you guys may in touch with me.. in also...
and i 'm really thank full to Mr.abhay for these attachments...
have a great day...
bye........ :-))
:D
23rd February 2006
Hello Ram, Sent you the details of the PF calculation in detail. Hope it will suffice your needs. Regards Arun M V
12th April 2006 From India, Pune
hi
PF is calculated at the rate of 12% of basic salary.
Employee share : 12% of basic = goes to PF account
Employer Share : 8.33% goes to Pension fund and 3.67% goes to PF
account
If a person's basic salary is more than 6500/- then Rs. 541/- of 12% of basic goes to pension fund rest all goes to PF.
:)
akriti
28th October 2006 From India, Chandigarh
Hi all,
Please check this website : http://www.epfindia.com
regards,
sathiyamoorthy iyer
17th November 2006 From India, Madras
Dear Shreeram, I Think that now u must be clear on the basic concept of PF. everyone has explained it very well. Thanks to all for brushing up my knowledge on the same. Regards Anuradha Singh HRD
17th November 2006 From India, Gurgaon
Hi Shreeram,
You will require to practice . its like maths. The best way to understand is to contact your PF inspector . he will be right person who can help you understand the same , also read PF act.
regards
jitendra
17th November 2006 From United States, Boston
Dear ShreeramIn addition to above:-1. If basic salary of any employee at the time of joining is less than or equal to 6500/- than it is mendatory to cover him under PF act. & if he continues with you and his basic salary crosses the limit of (6500/- as on date) than also you have to continue his PF deductions. 2. If you want to cover all your employees under PF act, there are following options:- a) Deduct PF of all those employees whose basic salary is more than 6500/- on max. limit i.e. 6500/- b) You can deduct 12% on his actual Basic e.g. Basic salary- 10000.00PF- 1200/- Pension Fund- 541/*-EPF- 659/- * Pension fund share can not be more than 541/- (8.33% of Basic)ThanksNavneet Singh
27th September 2008 From India, New Delhi
I am working in a resort in kerala as an accountant. Please give me details for the follwing question:
What are the Min & Max limit for PF, ESI and Labour Welfare Fund of each employee? How are they calculate? and what are the contribution of Employee and Employer for the said (PF, ESI & Labour Welfare Fund of each employee)?
Your advise in this regard is highly appreciated.
Vivek Naick
3rd October 2009 From India, Kochi
No a person with a basic more than 6500 can opt for not availing the PF facility
@ All: I have a problem here....there is an employee who had PF accumalated for the past 5 years and now although he is still an employee with the same company he does not have PF deduction for the past one yr...he needs to withdraw the PF accumalated in the 5 yrs....How do we go about it?
17th May 2010 From India, Mumbai
hey abhay thanx for posting such useful xls and ppt..it is really commendable ..i am fresher not having much knowledge abt. this. but ur post give me some basic idea
26th October 2010 From India, New Delhi
please find information below

Provident Fund Full Details

PF:
1. The Employees Provident Fund Scheme, 1952
2. The Employees Family Pension Scheme, 1971
3. The Employees Deposit-Linked Insurance Scheme, 1976

Calculations: P.F from Basic

Employee: 12% (P.F)
Employer: 3.67% Provident Fund (A/c 1) + 8.33% Pension (A/c 10) + 1.10% Admin Charges on
PF (A/c 2) + 0.50% EDLI (A/c 21) + 0.01% Admin Charges on EDLI (A/c 22)
=>13.61% on basic

* Pension (8.33% or 541/- which ever less)

Regular activities:

1. Time of joining: Form 2: Employee should fill, at the time of joining, nomination & Declaration form.
Form 2, includes the following

· Name of the employee
· Parent/spouse name
· Date of Birth
· Sex
· Marital Status
· AC No
· Address
· Names, address, relation, Share for each etc
Also for changing nominee names Form 2 is used. His eligibility begins on the date of joining the firm. Submitted along with form-5.

2. Withdrawers/Dead : Form 10c (pension) & 19 PF

Form 19 is used for withdrawing PF amount. Employee and parent/spouse name, name of the establishment, Ac no, Reasons for leaving service, Contribution for current financial year etc. Form 10 is used for pension withdrawal.

Form 19: Employee should fill, all information like Bank a/c, name, DOJ…with signature and then
Employer like present year contributions, DOR…for PF Fund – Due date: After 60 Days
of Resignation)
Form 10C: Employee should fill, all information like Bank a/c, name, DOJ…with signature and
then employer like present year contributions, DOR…for Pension Due date: After 60 Days of Resignation

3. Transfer : Form 13

Form 13 is used for transferring an employee AC from one company to another. Both employer and employee have to specify his name, PF AC no, Position etc and submitted with a covering letter (consolidated list of employees). Photocopy of the above is kept in PF file for transfer.

4. Employee register 3A, 6
5. For advance : Form 31

6. In case of employee expired / dead :

Process details

Form 10 D (For claiming benefits under Pension)

Employee should fill like Expired/late employee name, nomination name, details, Nomination Bank a/c…for monthly Pension

Form 20 (For Claiming EPF Contributions)

Employee should fill like Expired/late employee name, nomination name, details,
Nomination Bank a/c…for withdrawal of PF Fund (Incase of Death of a member

Form 5 IF (For Claiming EDLI benefits, nominee will get benefit)

EDLI for death case, nominee will get benefit.

7. Form 9 (Register of employers - Application for review filed under)

Monthly Remittance / Challans:

1. Challans every month before 15th (4 copies/ quadruplicate)
2. All A/c (A/c Nos-1,2,10,21&22)
3. To Bank
4. both employer & employee contribution

· Account group no eg Ma mu 1246 (state-first two alphabets /city/acc no: of the company)
· Month
· Total number of subscribers
· Total wages due for each account (wages on which calculations are done)
· Each accounts totals (consolidated amount with employer and employee share)
· Name of the establishment and address
· Name and signature of the depositor
· Name of the bank, mode and date of remittance etc
Challan is submitted tp PF office along with form-12A every month.

Monthly returns:

1. Form 12 A, with all information and employees list of contribution before 25th
2. With Form 5 (new joiners list) , form 10 (resigned employees list), challans copy
3. Information about last month employees, new & resigned employees & this month staff.

Form 5

· Name of the establishment and address
· Month
· Code no: of the factory
· A c no:
· Name of new employees
· Fathers or Husband name in case of married women
· Date of birth
· Sex
· Date of joining the fund
· Total period of pervious services as on the date of joining the fund

Form 10

· Name of the establishment and address
· Month
· Code no: of the establishment
· A c no:
· Name of member who is leaving
· Fathers or Husband name in case of married women
· Date of leaving service
· Reasons for leaving service
· Signature of authorized officer and stamp of the establishment
Cross checking the above is done with the salary statement which includes the number and name all current employees.

Form 12 A:

· Name of the establishment and address
· Currency period and month (April yr to march yr)
· Statutory rate of contribution (12%)
· Group code (NA for unexampled establishment. Establishment having more than 1000 have to keep a PF trust and have to specify the group code)
· Total wages due for each account (wages on which calculations are done)
· Amount of contribution and amount remitted (consolidated amount with employer and employee share)
· Date of remittance
· Total number of subscribers for the current month.
· Name and address of the bank in which the amount is remitted.
· Details of subscribers for E.P.F, PF, EDLI
--No of subscribers as per last month
--No of new subscribers (vide Form 5)
--No of subscribers left service (vide Form 10)
--Total no of subscribers (After adding and subtracting the new and retired employees with,
the number should tally with monthly list of employees)

Cross checking the above is done with the salary statement.

Annul returns:

1. Form 3 A (Individual Computation sheet)
2. Form 6 A (Consolidated Annual Contribution Statement)
3. before 30th April every year

Form 6A:
· Currency period and month (April yr to march yr)
· Name of the establishment and address
· Code no: of the establishment
· No: of member voluntary contributing at a higher rate
· AC No of each employee followed by their name, annual salary, annual contribution, employer contribution, refund of advance, rate of voluntary contribution.
· This grand total should tally with all form 12 A and challans totals.

Form 3A: Register

This form is filled up for each employee stating his each monthly salary, contribution, Employer share, Refund of advance, No of days/period of non contributing service, if any (eg. unauthorised leave). If the employee is resigned during that financial year then the date of leaving service and reasons for leaving service should be specified in this form. Using Form 3A, form 6 A is filled up and crosschecking is done with all challans and 12 A forms.

* Muster Roll * Wage Register * Inspection Book * Cash Book, Voucher & Ledger * PF work sheet

Forms:

Form 3: Contribution Cards - Individual Computation sheet contains all PF amts month-wise.
Form 3 A: Contribution Cards – Form
Form 4: Contribution card for employees other than monthly paid employees - Form
Form 5 A: Return of Ownership to be sent to the Regional Commissioner - Form
Form 6: Return of the Contribution Cards sent to the Commissioner on the expiry of the period
of currency – Form
Form 6 A: Consolidated Annual Contribution Statement - Consolidated Computation Sheet,
contains total employees list, there total half yearly information. Form 6 is top sheet
and 6A is attachments.
Form 9: Register of employees - Application for review filed under.

Register 3: Individual Computation, there Gross salary, Basic, DA, attendance, PF, Pension
Information maintains month-wise. Form 3 is top sheet and 3A is attachments.



26th October 2010 From India, New Delhi
hi i have one doubt if i get only Rs.5000 as basic pay how how much they ll deduct ? the same Rs.780? or 600? Ragards Rathan
2nd November 2012 From India, Bangalore
Dear All,
I would like to know that if some one worked as trainee only 1 year in May'05 to June'06, his PF was 1200/- . now he has applied for PF withdraw
how much he will get in return with interest
2nd November 2012 From India, Mumbai
Dear Promila..,
1.) PF has to be calculated on Basic+DA
2.) For submission of PF in SBI u need not to prepare Form 5 & 10, Form 12A. You have to forward 2 Challan copies enclosed with a covering letter and a cheque / cash
3.) For PF No.: It will not carry forward the previous pf No. of the employee who joins in new organization, because the PF Organization no will be change from organization to organization.
You have given the details in the right manner, but some of them are incorrect.
3rd November 2012 From India, Hyderabad
Dear Mamta,
If an employee works on trainee or on rolls, he will be eligible for total PF amount i.e. Rs. 1200/- * 2 (employee+employer)+(*8.25% on the total the employee eligible amount given by PF Office)
might be it is Rs. 28,800 /- (2400*12 months) and interest Rs. 2376/- = Rs. 31,176/-
3rd November 2012 From India, Hyderabad
Dear All,
May be you are all aware that now PF challans has to be paid through Online. And we need not to submit Form - 3A (contributions of individual employee), Form - 5 & 10 (additions & Deletions list), Form - 12A, and even need not to submit Annual Returns i.e. Form 6A & 3A.
3rd November 2012 From India, Hyderabad
Hello i want to know that my pf amount is calculated 54000/- in my pf statement and i left the job in last month so when i will be eligible for withdraw the pf amount and approx how much will i get please inform me
18th May 2015 From India, Ghaziabad
Good after noon all of you...pf calculet is basic salary 12%
4th December 2016 From India, undefined
#Anonymous
Dear All,
I need one i clarification Regarding PF. one of our employee joined in our concern two year before(2014) , while he joining he didn't share his pf details and uan number for previous worked concern, we created new uan number. now he got the old pf number and uan number of previous concern. now employee asking whether its possible apply the pf from previous concern which i worked for 3 years on there ? where it possible for apply pf now which worked (2011-2014).
5th January 2017 From India, Chennai
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