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Dear All My Senior

Please understand this issue and suggest the best solution with your legal view.

One of my friends join in a Govt. Aided school as a Bed Teacher on Govt. Aided Post. The management take signature on many joining formalities include with one BLANK PAPER by saying

"it will be printed a application and now Letter language format not available, we take format from Education department Chandigarh and then print where and submitted to head office of Aided Branch Chandigarh So you may signed on blank paper because Chandigarh Long away from here why make extra travel of staff for single signature and copy of same should be given to you of that format"

After it there is no issue found but when my friends ask about photocopy of same the management refused by saying" We submit to Education Department without having copy of that application"

By Management Representative attitude it is clear that the SIGNED BLANK PAPER not submitted any where with any application. The management carrying signed blank paper.

If my friends make a complaint to police it can be harmful for my friends because He is on probation for a period two years.

STEP TAKEN BY MY FRIENDS

My friends write a letter to management about this the management refused to accept this letter and start mentally torches on very small thing.

After feel sorry by my friends to the management than they make normal behave with my friends.

Here is problem that

My friends can not make any complaint against the management any where like police, education department and any otehr place

please suggest best solution for same
14th July 2014 From India, New Delhi
[QUOTE=ashok.jangra;2164057]Dear All My Senior

Please understand this issue and suggest the best solution with your legal view.

One of my friends join in a Govt. Aided school as a Bed Teacher on Govt. Aided Post. The management take signature on many joining formalities include with one BLANK PAPER by saying

"it will be printed a application and now Letter language format not available, we take format from Education department Chandigarh and then print where and submitted to head office of Aided Branch Chandigarh So you may signed on blank paper because Chandigarh Long away from here why make extra travel of staff for single signature and copy of same should be given to you of that format"

After it there is no issue found but when my friends ask about photocopy of same the management refused by saying" We submit to Education Department without having copy of that application"

By Management Representative attitude it is clear that the SIGNED BLANK PAPER not submitted any where with any application. The management carrying signed blank papper

If my friends make a complaint to police it can be harmful for my friends because He is on probation for a period two years.

STEP TAKEN BY MY FRIENDS

My friends write a letter to management about this the management refused to accept this letter and start mentally torches on very small thing.

After feel sorry by my friends to the management than they make normal behave with my friends.

Here is problem that

My friends can not make any complaint against the management any where like police, education department and any otehr place

Can he take these step now

1. Make a police complaint that his blank signed paper has been lost at School Premises. or on the way of school with school ID card.

2. Make a press note in national news paper with lost of these paper with any other documents photocopy

please suggest best solution for same

Ashok
14th July 2014 From India, New Delhi
Now there seems no fruitful solution. You (rather your friend) has already kept his neck under the arm of your management.
The only solution is try to become guddie-guddie with your management in order to avoid any further/future hurdles.
Thanks
RK Nair
14th July 2014 From India, Aizawl
As Mr. Nair has rightly said get in the good books of the management, as your friend has already committed mistake. Try to build confidence of the top management and tactfully get the photocopy of the format typed on the blank paper your friend signed.
15th July 2014 From India, Ahmadabad
Dear Ashok,

Your predicament is very sensitive now. Having just joined now it's very difficult for you to take a stern stand with your co. However I could understand your anxiety. All I can surmise is that you have a genuine doubt as to whether or not the blank paper with your signature on it was really used for bonafide official use which is not detrimental to your interest. I can only suggest in the circumstances explained, Why don't you verify and confirm from the said Education Dept. whether such letter has been filed with them, and if so, what are the contents written/or printed on it. Don't mistake me, I doubt very much their claims. I may sound as a pessimist or doubting Thomas but I can't help. Why because, I hardly could imagine any such a letter would be legally required at all by the Education Dept., unless such a letter (with tailor made contents to support, to solve their official compulsions) is insisted by the Edu.Dept. for some unknown reasons. This I'm raising because I was the Secretary cum Correspondent of 13 govt. aided schools managed by our co.for over 7 yrs. I don't think verifying with the Edu.Dept. is such a difficult one. Secondly, you also can discuss with your seniors and seek their help and advice in the matter. I have no doubt they will definitely help you to solve your problem.

All the best.
15th July 2014 From India, Bangalore
Thanks a lot of all for take the view on this matter
But sir please help bellow action (These action useful or not)
Can he take these step now
1. Make a police complaint that his blank signed paper has been lost at School Premises. or on the way of school with school ID card.
2. Make a press note in national news paper with lost of these paper with any other documents photocopy
please suggest again
Thanks in Advance
16th July 2014 From India, New Delhi
Dear Ashok,
The steps you are thinking of are extreme actions which you should exercise with caution because these are involving moral turpitude infringing the reputation of the institution in which you are working. They may not take you kindly. And the Press, they have their own priorities as this is not such a sensational news to take it to print.
The police complaint quoting "lost in transit" only may serve you with little result, which action may backfire on you as the police will shot a question "how did you left a blank signed paper in a such a careless manner". Moreover they cannot take any investigative steps as the signed blank paper was handed over at your school.
Think twice or thrice or more before taking any of the proposed steps.
17th July 2014 From India, Bangalore
I also second Mr. Kumar, until you are not aware whether the Blank Paper signed by you is utilized for a genuine reason i.e. Joining formalities or will be utilized for any reason affecting you, it is early to take any drastic step to complain to Police Station or Print Media.
17th July 2014 From India, Ahmadabad
Hello Ashok Jangra,

In an already complicated situation, why do you wish to further complicate the issue for you/your friend?

You mention that the mental torture has already begun.

Given what you mentioned, Kumar S would be right--that the Signed Blank Paper would IN ALL PROBABILITY be used to cover their tracks IF you or other employees who too would have given such signed blank papers turn the heat on the management, for whatever reason(s). Quite often, it would be related to Salaries--given the fact that salaries in Govt Aided Schools are delayed or sometimes lesser than agreed upon.

And when the intent from their end is clear, you will only be fooling yourself that you can fight them out by going to the Police or the Press.

Like RK Nair suggested, the Best way--in the given scenario--is to just lie low & work....UNTIL the Probation of 2 yrs is completed.

Even then, I would suggest that you quit with amicable terms--and you can then think of the steps you intend now on the way to handle the Signed Blank Paper.

In a single line, it takes not just a lot of guts to fight any establishment.....but much more. You already have many examples closure to you....like Ashok Khemka, etc.

All the Best.

Rgds,

TS
17th July 2014 From India, Hyderabad
One more way may be use full please suggest
1. If the individuals change his signature in all bank and also in attendance and other further formalities in future with the correspondence with management of institutes
17th July 2014 From India, New Delhi
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Humm...Not a bad idea. But might involve few legal formalities such as in bank records changing the specimen signature already stored in the KYC data it's not that easy. May be you have to close this existing a/c. and open a new a/c with a new specimen signature. (Un)Fortunately in India there won't be detailed formalities to change the signature unlike change of name or spelling therein. But still is't that easy to change the signature that already gone into the files of the school records. ?

One more suggestion, if you are changing the signature, try it in Hindi or your vernacular so that you can always justify saying I wish to promote the national language or mother tongue. (In central govt. & PSU offices govt.of India gives incentives for every Hindi signature or words used in official records & correspondences, so might get rewarded also for this idea.)

Change in Attendance, correspondences is not that difficult though, however, take care they shouldn't question your identity itself, ensure you have adequate moles and scars on your(friend's) body.
17th July 2014 From India, Bangalore
1) keep in touch with others who have signed such papers.
2) if/ when such a paper is used against you state the truth - that it was taken under compulsion / fraud. Get others to support you.
3) keep safe the complaint already made by you, whether acknowledged or not.
To me, these are the options at present. Signing a blank paper is claimed to happen very often ...and also some papers are denied later giving above excuse. As far as legal validity is concerned , even verbal assurances could form a contract but when disputed will need other evidences to back them.
21st July 2014 From United States, New York
If educated is doing such mistakes then what can we expect from others ?? Good and happy times ahead :-)
25th July 2014 From India, Bangalore
Dear Ashoke,

Subject - Signed On A Blank Paper - Joining Formalities

I have noted your suggestion. Please note that in any event if the matter is referred to before the court of law, the management (op) may demand the court to engage the handwriting expert to proof the signature of your friend.If your friend change his signature, that does not mean it is his signature because handwriting expert will give his evidence before the court to the effect that it is his handwriting. So your friend will be in defensive position.

Secondely, in case of legal battle in the court, the management will have to proof not only the signature of your friend but also the containts of the letter.In that case the contains are written by someone / (op) , the management will not be able to bring him (op) to say that contains have been wrtiien by him on the blank paper signed by your friend. If the opposite party (op) fails to proof the contains of the letter, then the court will not accept the said documents as evidence under Evidence Act.

Forget about the legal position since he has been working in an organisation. A job is a must for him at this stage. Let him work and maintain good relation with management.

Meanwhile , your friend may write a letter to the local police station stating therein that he has lost a paper signed on a blank paper and get the same duly acknowledged by the local PS and keep the same carefully under his safe custoday. This letter neither be treated as general diary nor FIR. So it will be treated an intimation.Everyday local PS is receving many letters, your frien's letter will be one of them.No one will be bothered to enquire about it.

Your friend should continue with this work untill he gets a better opportunity elsewhere.
27th July 2014 From India, Calcutta
Hello Dear ,
As Your Friend yet not registered a police complaint its good just ask your friend to go to the management and if any issue in their part ask them give that in written on official letter head kindly do it.. and also ask the other authority which take your friend sign on blank paper to give in written that they had taken it for official work only on official letter head if deny so ask for paper back ...
BLS LLB 5th Year Student
Samadhan D. Chavan
Mumbai University
30th July 2014 From India, Mumbai
Dear Ashok,
Sorry to say but your friend is working like a slave. He is in an attitude of unnecessary 'Yes'.
This is purely his blunder to sign on blank paper and then asking for copy of that. And after refusal of that by management he run to police and other official. Honestly stating that this is purely foolish act.
So, this is a lesson for him that never sign on a blank paper even an organization refuses to give joining.
Rest is story.!

31st July 2014 From India, Mumbai
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