Asso.prof.(commerce & Management) Pg
Agm - Hro, Compensation & Benefit Mgt,
Hr Cum Admin Executive
Retired Free Lancer- Presently Serving As
Q1. Would I be eligible to claim gratuity form my current company or would I can claim gratuity post resigning the organization/groups completely.
Please check the policy of your company whether the transferred employees are deemed as continuing employees of the main company and all benefits continues apply to them, post transfer.
Please seek a letter from HR confirming the all BENEFITS & SENIORITY will continue as per the terms and conditions of appointment (offer) letter issued by main company , in the event of returning from sister concern or subsidiary co to the main company.
Q2. Both the sister company\'s HR with the corporate HR are playing ping pong with me when questioned on my gratuity status,
please have the terms of transfer clearly
also the company have never paid gratuity to any employee who has redesigned is eligible, as no one has never asked for it.
if you are denied you may represent thru a legal counsel for the same.
31st October 2013 From India, Hyderabad
You can first ask for it, however if they deny your claim, you can approach the Labour Commissioner of your area, who is also the authority under Payment of Gratuity Act, with a complaint and he will get you your gratuity within no time.
Just focus on your work. Even if HR says that they will not give you grautity for the whole period, your entitlement for the same doesn't die, you can still get the same just by approaching the Labour Commissioner.
Hope your query is answered. Please feel free to revert in case of any doubt.
1st November 2013 From India, New Delhi
First of all you can confirm with your HR whether the Transfer to the Company Group is a continues one or a new one. Pl read the acceptance letter thoroughly before signing the same. As per right corporate norms, before issuing the letter of transfer in the same company group, the following has to be taken care by the HR.and the following can be incorporated in your transfer order.
" YOUR PAST SERVICES, LIKE GRATUITY, P.F. & E.P.F., SUPER ANNUATION IF ANY & OTHER LEGAL BENEFITS, SUCH AS SENIORITY, PAYGRADES WITH THIS GROUP SHALL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE NEW ASSIGNMAENT " .
Other wise you can consult a labour law practitioner to redress your doubts before signing the same.
3rd November 2013 From India, Mumbai
to any branch or sister company whenever needed in future.
So although your location will changed but you are working with same group of companies.
5th November 2013 From India, Pune
We don't know the contents of your transfer letter and no knowledge of under what arrangements this 'transfer' is taking place. Did you sign any willingness letter detailing the terms & conditions of transfer or simply you are transferred ? What happened to your erstwhile co. Has it been closed down or continuing. Subject to this clarification my view is, in all probability there won't be any clause in the transfer order about the payment of gratuity. On the other hand since you are treated as 'transferred' (presumably with continuity of service) the question of payment how arises now ? At this point of time it may be possible to get it confirmed from your present employer whether the "continuity" of service from the date of joining in your pre.employer onwards has been formalised and confirmed in unambiguous terms. It is prudent that you should sort these out now itself with your present employer, if not with pre.employer instead of ignoring it now and repent later. Right now what is clear is both are two different entities and are liable to answer to these queries failing which ask them to settle for the past service.
5th November 2013 From India, Bangalore
Often transfer letters contain a clause " your other terms and conditions shall remain unchanged". Please go through your transfer letter for the following:
1. whether it stipulates your service to be the fresh one in the new company?
2. Whether the clause like one I mentioned above has been provided in the letter?
3. Whether the letter in question stipulates terms like a fresh appointment or a continuing appointment?
In any case, since the employer remains the same, you have fair chance of having the continuity of service, hence, the gratuity. However, in case of (1) above it will be construed as unfair labour practice and you will be eligible to seek relief through the intervention of the Labour Commissioner.
7th November 2013 From India, Delhi
We have faced the similar situation in the recent past. The solution we got for this is the Company is maintaining the Gratuity Account with the same Fund Manager (For Ex. LIC of India).
So when contacted, even if there are Inter Company Transfers the respective Fund Manager has agreed to continue the Gratuity Account and provide the Gratuity Amount at the end of the service as per the statutory terms
Please check the details of Fund Manager and the Gratuity Trust in your company. You may approach the Fund Manager if you have any queries
9th November 2013 From India, Hyderabad
#AnonymousPFA my transfer letter I have provided a transfer letter but have received a new Emp code & a joining letter
26th November 2013 From India, Mumbai
26th November 2013 From India, New Delhi
#AnonymousYes its on the company’s letter head & duly signed by Mgr. HR
26th November 2013 From India, Mumbai
They have transfered you to their company and also they have not taken any resignation from you, this act itself makes your employment continious. In one judgement of madras high court namely Mettur beardsell Ltd. Case it was the same ration given by The Honb'le Justice Abdul Wahab. Also for the purpose of payrolling they will have to give you joining letter that dosen't make your employment afresh. So focus on your work and throw all your worries out of window, leave these this for the time when you leave this organization and if at that time they decline you to give gratuity for the period you worked for the sister concern, you file a complaint before Assistant Labour Commissioner on the basis of that transfer letter. However please keep that transfer letter safe till that period.
Hope that clears all the doubts. feel free to revert in case of any further clarification.
27th November 2013 From India, New Delhi