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Raj Kumar Hansdah
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B K BHATIA
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Dinesh DivekarDear friend,
You have shared a link for the presentation on negativity. However, could you implement the thoughts given in the presentation? If yes, what was your experience? How much time it took for you to mastering this skills? How did you measure positivity or negativity?
How many persons in your company do all this? Was there resistance to implement these thoughts?
Mere sharing the links is not sufficient. You should share your experiences of implementation of knowledge as well. Alike charity, acquisition and then implementation of knowledge also begins at home!
My comments are in your interest. These may have undertone of sarcasm but these are not sarcastic.
Dinesh V Divekar
From India, Bangalore
nashbramhallThanks Dinesh for raising valid questions. When people give a one-liner and a link to their websites, I do not bother reading. However, at your invitation, I looked at the site.
I take this opportunity to suggest that we all should support our theories with examples from our experience. Here is my pennies worth. I know of people who have changed jobs either because they were over/under worked and/or had bosses that did not appreciate their work and criticized them all the time or discriminated them when it came to promotions. In one case, a worker's boss had asked him to apply for a position 3 grades above his present grade in another branch in a different country (The worker's home country). However, the worker was denied promotion to the next level (only one grade above). When he challenged the boss, it seems the boss replied "I am sure, you can do the managers' job in your own culture". The worker found the first opportunity to take VRS and quit the firm.
In another case, a worker changed jobs as he had hardly anything to do and could not convince himself that he had earned the handsome wage paid. He was supervising around 10 workers, who had to slog all day to earn less than a third of his wages. His conscience pricked him so much that he was highly stressed up. in having to pose as those he was busy. His boss did not have much to do either; however, he was quite happy in earning double the wage of this worker and felt that he deserved it for all the hard work he had done in the past to reach that position.
I could keep on giving examples, but I won't.
From United Kingdom
anil.aroraI second to Mr Divekar and Mr Simhan didnt get your motive behind your posting, and wont ask you more questions as you already have to answer the valid questions asked by the respective seniors above but certainly would like to know :
-What made you feel like to share this link here or what actually you wanted by community?
Second, I wont say that I never liked to go through the links or spend time with posted links by any member with or without any headline, knowledge earned or findings but certainly would like to know motive behind sharing which actually matters.
Lastly, if you had nothing to say while posting this link, there would have no need to post the same.
From India, Gurgaon
Cite ContributionDear Dinesh,
Thankyou for inviting us to the discussion as the topic interests me. I echo Simhan's thoughts.
I am a student to Positive Psychology. Happiness is not a state , but a practise, that calls for a life long discipline.
Choosing to respond, requires training , as we our thoughts are pre-dominantly based on fear.
The presentation deals with the reactions on the periphery. It requires far deeper levels of work , in order to put the principles to use.
Constructive criticism and mutual respect will only remain a lip service , if the individuals are suffering from dilemmas and other negative behavioural patterns.
My apologies for the disagreement with the author to the presentation. I find negative emotions, far deep seated in behaviour , probably through childhood or repeated experiences. It requires thorough knowledge of the self and a life-long discipline to replace it with the positive ones.
Looking forward to hear our other experts.
From India, Mumbai
Raj Kumar HansdahI appreciate the comments and thank our senior members for their time and effort in posting them. The points raised by them is valid; as this presentation only scratches the surface of a very important and relevant aspect of professional life, and provides just a few cursory and superficial approaches.
One could have even appreciated such a casual treatment of such a serious topic, had it come from a fresher or a new member; however, on further scrutiny of the posts and threads submitted earlier by the post-er; it is evident that all the posts in this forum have been made to attract eyeballs and advertise an HR software and the concerned website. Almost all posts are one-liners with a teaser link to direct the viewers to the website, or mentioning and recommending the HR software. Such attempts at advertising a product or website by subterfuge is deplorable.
From India, Delhi
teamgrouphrDear Stalwarts of Citehr,
I see many stalwarts posing challenge to a fellow member who is definitely not as experienced as you guys.
He/She is probably trying to promote something, maybe some sort of training.
We all do it, right, Mr. Divekar ?
Let it go, it wasn't that bad either.
From India, Delhi
B K BHATIAReactions of some Senior HR professionals do not seem to be justified, in my opinion, since the topic dealing with 'Negative Emotions' may have been initiated, through this presentation, with a view to gain deeper insights into the topic through the feed back provided by experts in the field of human psychology. May be someone is doing research on this topic & thought it convenient to pick up a 'Slide-share presentation' from a website to invite views/ opinions.
We, as seniors, need not exhibit our negative emotions & over react to a posting which is neither irrelevant nor absurd. Going through this presentation again, I find nothing obnoxious which injures anybody's sentiments or pride. Yes, if the presentation had some data, it could possibly be more convincing.
If CiteHR has to remain as an open platform to project & discuss any HR related issue, it may be wise for the Moderators/ Super- moderators to appear at the end, in an advisory capacity, when enough people have already given their comments/ opinions. Otherwise, let there be a decision by the CiteHR management to screen all presentations before these are permitted to be inserted by the contributor.
I do not support the attempts by anyone to be sarcastic/ ridiculing when there is nothing objectionable in the presentation shared by an honorable member of CiteHR community. Let us not lose our calm & maturity, which is our most valuable possession, as Senior members of this community.
From India, Delhi
Cite ContributionThis thread seem to have served the purpose , at its best. The presentation was about dealing with negative emotions, and it almost brought it all out.
There are two clear points discussed on this thread. The first one is about the personal views to the content and second one is about the intent of sharing the presentation.
Taking a neutral view, we have almost established both the points.
Looking forward to hear from the author, summarising this discussion.
Thanks to everyone who participated.
From India, Mumbai
rramxxI am surprised that as Super Moderator, (Cite Contribution) 1979 seems to indicate that there should be no more discussion and that the person who made the original posting may summarize the discussion now.
Should we cut off discussion even as it starts, without allowing more persons to share their opinions? And the discussion is just a day old!
I agree with Mr. B.K.Bhatia's views and am intrigued by the near violent reaction by some, including moderators. Agreed, the presentation is just touching the fringes of the subject, which is very deep. But I feel that the person posting it could have been handled with kid gloves so that he/she is not discouraged. There have been many many naive postings in the Forum and they are tolerated. And I guess the author has made it worse by not revealing his/her identity.
In my view, to challenge a person how much he or she has practiced the matter before posting isn't fair - after all how many 'consultants' practice themselves or in their own organsiation the very same subjects which they teach others? The link was just sharing of an idea, which basically isn't incorrect though incomplete, on which opinions could be shared.
From India, Bangalore