Saswatabanerjee
Partner - Risk Management
Bodhisutra
Manager, Operations
Nashbramhall
Learning & Teaching Fellow (retired)
B K BHATIA
Director Of Company
SAIBHAKTA
Retired From Air India
Mandy007
Sr Hr Executive
Sundar_mpm
Man Management Functions
T.PRABHAKAR
Human Resource Manager
Sumant Arora
Student
+8 Others

Few years back when I was working for a consultancy I was asked to recruit marketing professionals for top companies. They asked me to ignore CV's of candidates who have done part time MBA or MBA through distance learning?
A candidate will go for part time MBA or through distance learning for following reasons:
1. If he is the only earning member of the family?
2. He can't leave his present job for some unavoidable reasons.
etc. There maybe many genuine reasons.
If top companies are looking only for full time MBA then what is the use of doing part time MBA or MBA through Distance education?
Such people may have the required experience but just because they have not done full time MBA they will be deprived of opportunities to work in reputed companies.
If this is the case then why management institutes run such courses if it has no value in job market?
25th June 2013 From India, Mumbai
Even today recruiters ask such questions to candidates:
" You have done MBA is it part time or full time."
I mean why it should matter?
You check his experience, stability, knowledge, communication skills etc.
25th June 2013 From India, Mumbai
It's all a matter of supply and demand. If there are not enough candidates with full-time MBA, then the organization will consider candidates with an MBA done in other modes. This issue has been covered at CiteHr before. So, please search and read the discussions. By searching, I found one at https://www.citehr.com/189943-why-to...ance-mode.html
25th June 2013 From United Kingdom
The management that rejects MBA on the ground of part-time is not objective in there decision , they are subjective. Performance is the yardstick for employment not whether your degree is from part-time or full time University.
26th June 2013 From Nigeria, Lagos
to secure a job, nowadays, a candidate is required to possess good communication skills in english language, followed by a first class degree i.e., above 60 percent and pass all the papers in first attempt etc. who pursues a course in regular education and not in distance mode. The candidates, who secured a post graduate/graduate degree through distance education are not preferred in corporate. It is believed that only regular i.e., in a college/campus of a university or a business school degrees consider as a valuable one. Placement consultants are very particular in placing the regular course students. Why is it so? Nobody gives a valid answer. It is believed that regular education is only providing ample scope for learning, practice the learning, understand the practical aspects etc., That's why, distance education is considered as an unwanted one. HR Managers too reluctant in selecting a candidate from distance education cadre.

step-motherly treatment is only being meted out to distance education degrees and candidates. but for the employed/experienced persons, distance education degrees/qualifications offer good knowledge of the trade and subjects. Only one plus point from Distance education.

Distance education candidates, who pursue the course are sufficiently aged and experienced and the Distance Education Universities do not pay much time-bound prominence to the courses. Printed notes/study materials are dispatched to the candidates by the University CDE Departments.The candidates if they send emails to the directorate for any clarifications, the message bounces immediately. The so-called study centres, appointed by a university, for educational assistance to the candidates/students, are intending to collect only money in time and apart from this, nothing.

It is the primary function of the UGC/CDE to create a value to the courses and to the candidates in achieving their life goals. Corporate should get wisdom in this matter and pay weightage to distance education passed-out too. Then only, the confidence could be created in the minds to pay attention to CDE.

Knowledge and quality must be given importance and NOT anything else.
26th June 2013 From India, Pune
Dear Sundar,
You are right about the poor support given to distance education students in India. Please see https://www.citehr.com/464168-concen...ml#post2068064
It's not the case with all distance learning courses. I think it's a problem with private institutions that are after the money rather than the service. As I mentioned in my earlier post, it's a question of supply and demand: if there are more candidates to choose from than the number of vacancies, then why will companies bother about students from such institutions? Students from IIMs, etc., will have formed a personal network through which they will find jobs.
27th June 2013 From United Kingdom
One thing important to remember in this context is 'a private organization, which is to recruit people for any job, is free to make their own rules & processes'. How can anyone debate that ignoring applicants with MBA through distant education is not justified? If I am the CEO, I will decide the criteria to shortlist applicants, if there is a good response to our job advertisement.

As clearly pointed out above by the Super Moderator, Nashbramhall, it is all a question of 'demand & supply'. So the market forces determine the short listing criteria for recruitment. Take, for example, admissions to Delhi University degree level courses this year. Only this morning we heard the news that the cut off for admissions to reputed colleges is above 99 % marks in 10+2. Can someone with 90% argue that he/ she should also be given a chance? When the market offers enough candidates with a score of 99 % & above, why should the top colleges look for others. In a similar manner, if the market provides enough applicants with a full time MBA Degree from premier institutes, why should an employer short list candidates from other management training institutes, or those candidates who have earned MBA through part time/ distant education?

I know it is painful to the affected candidates, but no organization can afford to conduct interviews of all the applicants to determine the best fit for a job. That is why defining shortlisting criteria is a standard practice & is an essential part of the recruitment process.
27th June 2013 From India, Delhi
In most cases, MBA candidates from distance courses are pathetic. They are not even fit to do a clerks job. MBA is a course that goes beyond passing a 16 papers. It's about presentation, knowledge application, improved analytical skills. Distance learning courses do not give you this.
Part time course are very short teaching time, barely able to finish the subject courses and no one working has time to do extra work that MBAs are expected to do. Again, what comes out is a very poor product.
When enough proper MBA are available, why will someone hire a part timer ?
27th June 2013 From India, Mumbai
even people who go for full time mba they spend more 3lakhs for two years all institutions almost all , i have seen that students either dont be regular or have 2hrs of class and skip back to home , and sometimes even lecturers don't spend in teaching because they feel bore of teaching limited candidates ,its just money loss
27th June 2013 From India, Hyderabad
I agree this has definitely been the scenario now a days but i would say that the best option to do a part time or an Executive MBA is to do it along with your job so that you can achieve a higher position inside your job profile by doing these higher education course.
27th June 2013 From India, Mohali
learning while earning is very difficult u cannot concentrate on two things at the same time , its not atwo pages of book where u can complete in just two days when u are earning u contribute ur entire time on earning once money COMES in ur hand very less interest will be shown on studies , at the time of ONLY learning calls go to all the friends again we need to go to college , HOW BORING
27th June 2013 From India, Hyderabad
I strongly object to the views expressed by Mr Saswata Banerjee .He has no idea about the course content of IGNOU of which I am an MBA.IGNOU was accredited as University of Excellence by the Commonwelth group of nations.( more than 40 countries).It has an excellent curriculam and has weekend counselling sessions.It took me four years to complete the course in eight semesters.For four years(88-92) I regularly attended counselling sessions on Saturdays and Sundays.Thereafter I appeared in selection tests where external MBAs from reputed Business schools appeared and were ranked far below me.
It is not the institute or the mode of imparting education that matters but how interested is the student.In IGNOU regular assignments/case studies and lectures from experienced business managers ensured the quality of education.However if the aim of a student is to get a degree (whether he gains knowledge or not)then God bless him ! Unfortunately today's environment reinforces this attitude.
27th June 2013 From India, New Delhi
As expressed earlier, it all depends upon from where one gets the MBA and the duration of the course, etc. IGNOU's courses are an exception just like the Open University, UK, courses. However, there are a number of other universities where there is hardly any support given to students on distance learning.
27th June 2013 From United Kingdom
Dear Meena, learning while working is difficult but not impossible. We all have only 24X7. How we utilize that time available is the question. I know of people who have done part-time evening courses for years, with a young family to look after, and completed their Master degree and/or Teacher's Training and even taught part-time evening classes at the same time. When I used to conduct Time Management Courses, I have asked people to consider how much time they spend watching TV, chat to friends on Skype, talk on the mobile, etc.
An old saying goes "Where there is a will there is a way". So, do not lose heart. Please take a leaf from this 100 year old lady's news at Yahoo! News UK & Ireland - Latest World News & UK News Headlines
27th June 2013 From United Kingdom
Sai,
I recruit regularly, both for my own company and for needs of our clients
The views i expressed are based on what i am experiencing. The only one i have seen that has some sensible results in Welinkar in Mumbai. Even that is a product far inferior to what we see in their full time MBA courses. A full time MBA course run by most reputed insititutes in mumbai requires students to be in the institute for as long as 12 hours a day. The amount of project work they do is humangous. A part timer does not have time to do anything close to that. It badly affects the final product.
IGNOU candidates also i have seen and worked with.
No, they do not come up to standards.
You may have been an exception and would have been able to take benefit of what they could offer. I suspect you had experience and expertise you leveraged on. I sincerely hope you are able to reap the benefits of your degree and get opportunity to showcase it. But mostly that does not work.

27th June 2013 From India, Mumbai
Dear Saswata,

Please may I know how many distance learning MBA candidates that you have come across in the past year? Is it not possible that better students with considerable experience, who have done distance learning courses, are absorbed by their own organizations and they do not bother applying for other jobs?

Most of the fresh MBAs (even full-time MBAs) in a number of institutions in India are taught by fresh MBAs who have hardly set foot in any organization. I know this from personal encounters when conducting seminars. I have asked HR lecturers if they have worked in HR, etc., and the response I had was "No". So, in my humble opinion it all depends upon how much interest a student takes to the course, why the student is doing the course (parents' and peer pressure or self motivated), how much time they devote, whether they work to learn or just pass an examination.

At CiteHr, I have been in touch with students of all sorts: many preferring spoon-feeding and a minority asking for just guidance to ensure that they are on the right lines. I am sure there are thousands who do not seek help. Students from elite institutions are a different breed, in general.
27th June 2013 From United Kingdom
About 15 in the last 2 years

Plus, I have met / known a lot of those who did MBA from full time and from part time courses. Most of the students doing part time are not doing it to learn. Most are also not doing it to go ahead in the same organisation as they know they will continue to be in the same post after their degree. They are doing it to be able to jump into another company for a high salary that MBA generally get. And mostly they are badly disappointed as companies do to offer an equal chance to those passing from distance MBA course. Most hr teams will look at this in the same light as a note in the cv saying that he played cricket for his college team. Good to hear, but it does not change my decision.

The reason why this is so, I have already explained earlier. The absence of serious and equivalent efforts on project work, presentations, research, analysis, personality development etc is largely missing in part time courses. There is just no time. And recruiters know this. They already factor this in. Do they care (as the original post put it) that the candidate had to take this course as he did not have an option, could not leae job etc ? No they don't care. For them, it's your hard luck. Don't try to push that on me. I will hire from the pool that looks like will pass the muster.

Again, like I said, such candidates do get jobs, but because they have the experience. The MBA degree is just icing in the cake. In a few cases, I know, it has helped to break a glass ceiling (eg a rule if not promoting a manager who is not MBA to department head). That is what drives some of the candidates to do it


27th June 2013 From India, Mumbai
Full time MBA are boons because they attend full time &are exposed to corporate,culture & undegone training it is not the question of distance mode or correspondence people have caliber & required skills to flourish & experience professionals who are working have an exposure & advantage & companies & business moral responsiblity towards society also if the candidate is suitable then, & some people do not get the oppturnity to .some are underprviiged ,but today there are universites like icfai bhuvans (bila school of management )for working professionals who conduct regular classes on weekends & study materials are of very good quality & are deleivered on time ,we are living in the 21st century lets not differntiate ,ultimately end of the dayyou should get a right candidate let me tell you nobody is born talented talents have to be developed
28th June 2013 From India, Bangalore
I have seen many candidates from reputed business schools performing poorly in group discussions/tasks.They either fumble or are silent ! It makes me wonder where are the skills/knowledge they are supposed to have mastered in those schools ? Mind it, management is not only the theory learnt in the institute but it's application in real practical world where communication skills are utmost important.
28th June 2013 From India, New Delhi
Distance learning MBA do have value. If you have industrial experience you can opt for distance MBA. You will gain experience as well as you gain knowledge. Regards, Eins Education
15th October 2013 From India
I am completely agree with Mandy007.It shouldn't matter whether the candidate has done part-time MBA or full time MBA as long as knowledge is concerned.
Nowadays many recognized universities provides online MBA or distance MBA.
You can refer this article: Jaro Bharathiar Distance MBA: Capture the power in your hands: Online MBA in Marketing
22nd February 2014 From India
saswatabanerjee, I appreciate your response. Can you please provide some resources explaining this saying?
24th February 2014 From India
These are based on my own experiance in recruiting for my company, for clients and in sitting through interviews that my clients took that they ask me to attend. It starts with the perception that part time MBA are non serious, or that the course is not serious in teaching / not enough projects and exposure.

So, at time of screening, hr / recruitment consultants will simply ignore part timers unless they can't find one they want, or if the budget is low.

During the interview (if you are lucky to be called), the interviewer is generally hostile already. In addition, they will ask questions that are more difficult, either because they are told you must experienced and so able to answer. Or that they sub consciously don't want you.

If finally selected, they will offer you lower salary in the light of the thought that you did part time MBA and therefore inferior.

What cuts a different path from this

A. You must be from a premier institute (wellinker in mumbai, jalmnalal Bajaj)

B. You must have experiance and expertise they know you have and they want (where the degree is only ipad iceing on the cake)

Ask any recruiter how many part timers they have short listed, and you will get the source of my comment.
24th February 2014 From India, Mumbai
MBA through distant education/ correspondence does have value for those who are already working and putting in effort to improve their qualifications. Industry recognizes it as a 'self development initiative' since in many cases the theoretical knowledge can be directly applied at the work place. This means learning & application happening simultaneously, which goes to the credit of the employee.

However, seeing at the availability v/s demand picture of MBA freshers in different industries & Govt. organizations across the country, it stands to reason that even regular MBAs are not finding enough opportunities for employment. And this status is unlikely to change in the near future. Today, if you publish one job of say, HR Executive, there are hundreds of applicants who are not only MBAs, but with qualifications like B.Tech/ MCA/ MA etc..Institutions providing MBA/ PGDBA qualifications have mushroomed in the country, which are adding to the number of unemployed educated youth who are genuinely frustrated, thereby posing a challenge to the society. Someone at the Human Resources planning level has to wake up and provide the right direction.
24th February 2014 From India, Delhi
Dear Friend,

There are some personalities who don't know anything in HR or to have practical knowledge in HR. But he/she might have done their MBA in abroad. Doing MBA from abroad nothing makes much difference.

Because, now at present there are so many institutions offering a short term course in management and to attract us they say that it is equivalent to MBA which is not right. Minimum 3 years with 24 papers you have to undergo in the examination for MBA. Nowadays even a 6 months to 1 years courses are called as - Equivalent to MBA just to attract the below average students who wants to gain MBA in this society. But he knows nothing theoretically as well as practically. He / She cannot write even a single line in a good English without any grammatical error.

Likewise, even in abroad there are so many institutions offering MBAs in the similar manner, so nothing makes difference except practical analysis, handling a situation, case studies, etc., etc., which comes through only experiences.
12th April 2015 From India, Madras
Distance MBAs are basically assignment oriented and the limited contact classes inadequate to impart real knowledge.
The essence of an MBA is direct interaction with faculty,industry people.
And when supply of direct MBAs are higher ,then distance students get left behind in the race.
12th April 2015 From India, Pune
if we see that there are so many MBA graduates from schools and less placements availaible .. its may be because of this reason full time MBA is given that much importance just as reason to short list the number of candidates ...
what i see is simple is due to over poplulated hard working indians .. if jobs are 200 applicants are 2000000 ...
just as in delhi university cut off is 95% above .. why ? because they have many applicants
its simple they get reason to short list
22nd April 2015 From India, Delhi
Fact is that a preference exists for full time MBAs vis-a-vis distance learning ones in the industry. We may feel it is unfair or even wrong but that doesn't change the fact.
Also, just by the nature of it being part time, distance learning candidates miss out on certain crucial elements integral to MBA learning experience - peer to peer learning, presentations, group work etc are things which are missing or much less intensive in a distance MBA. Not commenting on the intellectual prowess of the students or course design of distance MBAs, certain structural factors seem to limit learning in a distance MBA course.
True, for some, a distance MBA is the only option. True, they may start out with a slight disadvantage in the job market. But, all that means is they need to put in that much extra effort to compensate for their initial disadvantage.
5th May 2015 From India, Delhi
I have 10 years of experience in Client Management, Quality management and Operation Management. The best part is that I am a Science graduate. Although, I'm pursuing MBA, however, I can bet that I can fail IIM students when it comes to Management part. A mechanic without experience but Certified and a mechanic with experience and having a local degree is a preferential candidate. Saswat, your experience is in hiring is influenced by your thoughts that you've paid so much in regular MBA and you've got a tough competition from another person who have completed MBA via Distance Learning.
Give me your Company name or tell me any Company name who are ignoring the candidates, who have completed the MBA from Distance Learning.
Those who are graduated in Regular MBA from highly reputed institutes are either working as a Teacher, or have opened the own Training Institute. Completed MBA from regular institute definitely gives an edge over Distance MBA. However, a person having working in Top Industry and pursuing Distance MBA are valued most than the Regular MBA
31st March 2019 From India, Noida
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