The secret in making a choice, is to understand which part of the dualism offers you more takeaway, that will matter for you in the long run.
You have worked for 13yrs, hence you are a senior-to-mid level talent, in terms of experience. Working in a small firm may need crucial responsibilities to justify your role. If you want to move ahead, you may need to scale up your responsibilities.
You have weighed the situation too well with your existing employer. Thats how you are sure, that you will not be confirmed. Please move from the role fast. You resigning from the job will have far less impact than being terminated.
If you go back you your ex-employer, please do it with more responsibilities in mind. Agree to ignore the faults , but work for growth. Your ex-employer knows your worth, hence will give you full support in the areas you wish to grow.
One thing that kills us professionally, is when we cannot scale up our responsibilities. As long as you keep growing in terms of professional maturity, you will have fewer reasons to worry. Working for any IT Giant as a programmer, isn't as good as designing the next iPhone, as a startup.
Wish you all the best!
From India, Mumbai
1858You have worked for 13yrs, hence you are a senior-to-mid level talent, in terms of experience. Working in a small firm may need crucial responsibilities to justify your role. If you want to move ahead, you may need to scale up your responsibilities.
You have weighed the situation too well with your existing employer. Thats how you are sure, that you will not be confirmed. Please move from the role fast. You resigning from the job will have far less impact than being terminated.
If you go back you your ex-employer, please do it with more responsibilities in mind. Agree to ignore the faults , but work for growth. Your ex-employer knows your worth, hence will give you full support in the areas you wish to grow.
One thing that kills us professionally, is when we cannot scale up our responsibilities. As long as you keep growing in terms of professional maturity, you will have fewer reasons to worry. Working for any IT Giant as a programmer, isn't as good as designing the next iPhone, as a startup.
Wish you all the best!
From India, Mumbai
Dear N102
I have gone through your posts carefully.
Some risks in life are worth taking; but where the reward is just the feeling of working for a bigger company, sans any job satisfaction, learning or any growth opportunities; it is not worthwhile.
Even wise make mistakes, but then they learn from it and correct it. I think, your dilemma is not being able to accept it with objectivity and dispassion.
You call it a bigger company, and that is what made you join it; however by the details given by you, it seems more of a family run cottage enterprise. Where the family squabbles of a husband and wife continue over their official space and life; what benefits can you expect.
Moreover, there is a Damocles sword hanging over you, that of the lady Director, the wife; who has no business otherwise to interfere in your dealing with your Boss who is your reporting officer. As things stand, your tenure is totally at the pleasure of the lady; and as you rightly apprehend, any day you can be given marching orders.
Please go through Tajsateesh's response carefully. he has hit the nail on the head and I tend to agree fully with his views - "You will be happy where you are NEEDED.... "...
Subsequently, you can keep on trying to look for better opportunities; but at this point of time its better to save your job, career, possible financial loss in case you lose your job and do not find any in a short time; and above all your peace of mind.
Warm regards.
P.S. (Edited/Added) : After hitting the Post button, I saw (Cite Contribution)'s response, which must have come as I was typing... I strongly agree with her views and the logical way she has put them across.
From India, Delhi
I have gone through your posts carefully.
Some risks in life are worth taking; but where the reward is just the feeling of working for a bigger company, sans any job satisfaction, learning or any growth opportunities; it is not worthwhile.
Even wise make mistakes, but then they learn from it and correct it. I think, your dilemma is not being able to accept it with objectivity and dispassion.
You call it a bigger company, and that is what made you join it; however by the details given by you, it seems more of a family run cottage enterprise. Where the family squabbles of a husband and wife continue over their official space and life; what benefits can you expect.
Moreover, there is a Damocles sword hanging over you, that of the lady Director, the wife; who has no business otherwise to interfere in your dealing with your Boss who is your reporting officer. As things stand, your tenure is totally at the pleasure of the lady; and as you rightly apprehend, any day you can be given marching orders.
Please go through Tajsateesh's response carefully. he has hit the nail on the head and I tend to agree fully with his views - "You will be happy where you are NEEDED.... "...
Subsequently, you can keep on trying to look for better opportunities; but at this point of time its better to save your job, career, possible financial loss in case you lose your job and do not find any in a short time; and above all your peace of mind.
Warm regards.
P.S. (Edited/Added) : After hitting the Post button, I saw (Cite Contribution)'s response, which must have come as I was typing... I strongly agree with her views and the logical way she has put them across.
From India, Delhi
Hello,
Further to (Cite Contribution)'s & Rajkumar's responses, suggest give a close look @ the line (Cite Contribution) mentioned: "If you go back you your ex-employer, please do it with more responsibilities in mind".
Suggest use the opportunity of renewed association with your old company in a way that you PRE-EMPT any chances of them 'feeling'--now or later--that you rejoined due to problems @ the new company--Negotiate for HIGHER/LARGER responsibilities.......NOT to focus on designation mind you, since that would follow automatically with a larger role/responsibility.
Indirectly, you are also conveying that your primary intent of moving in the first place was for a scaling-up in career.
Hope you get the point.
All the Best.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
Further to (Cite Contribution)'s & Rajkumar's responses, suggest give a close look @ the line (Cite Contribution) mentioned: "If you go back you your ex-employer, please do it with more responsibilities in mind".
Suggest use the opportunity of renewed association with your old company in a way that you PRE-EMPT any chances of them 'feeling'--now or later--that you rejoined due to problems @ the new company--Negotiate for HIGHER/LARGER responsibilities.......NOT to focus on designation mind you, since that would follow automatically with a larger role/responsibility.
Indirectly, you are also conveying that your primary intent of moving in the first place was for a scaling-up in career.
Hope you get the point.
All the Best.
Rgds,
TS
From India, Hyderabad
If the wife of the boss controls the shots, it would have been better if she would have employed you in the first place !
As you say, it does not seem a professionally conducted company, with squabbles between husband and wife (at this age !) and if they have no second succession plan in place, after a few years, the company will not remain "big"
If the succession plan is in place, then work with the successor (son or whoever is next in line), and see if you can gel well with that person.
Or else, return to your old job. If the earlier employer has called you back, he definitely knows your worth and you can take higher responsibilities in that firm.
Do you want to be a small fish in a big pond, or big fish in a small pond.
Decision is yours.
From India, Mumbai
As you say, it does not seem a professionally conducted company, with squabbles between husband and wife (at this age !) and if they have no second succession plan in place, after a few years, the company will not remain "big"
If the succession plan is in place, then work with the successor (son or whoever is next in line), and see if you can gel well with that person.
Or else, return to your old job. If the earlier employer has called you back, he definitely knows your worth and you can take higher responsibilities in that firm.
Do you want to be a small fish in a big pond, or big fish in a small pond.
Decision is yours.
From India, Mumbai
Hi,
All of them have given valuable advice, which is very useful for you to take a decision. Remember you have started Off On The Wrong Foot, with the bosses wife, and as per what you have said it seem she is the bigger boss. It is most important Finding Your Feet:, you are having such vast experience and still she is treating you in this manner show's how immature she is.
It is better to go back to your previous employee or best look for another job. I don't think you have future here. Peace of mind, respect and freedom to perform your duty is very important, which I am sure you will not find in your current organization. So all the best for your future.
Regards
Anita
From India, Mumbai
All of them have given valuable advice, which is very useful for you to take a decision. Remember you have started Off On The Wrong Foot, with the bosses wife, and as per what you have said it seem she is the bigger boss. It is most important Finding Your Feet:, you are having such vast experience and still she is treating you in this manner show's how immature she is.
It is better to go back to your previous employee or best look for another job. I don't think you have future here. Peace of mind, respect and freedom to perform your duty is very important, which I am sure you will not find in your current organization. So all the best for your future.
Regards
Anita
From India, Mumbai
Dear ,
I totally agree with Mr. Anil & other Gentleman - what ever they said is right .Running away from the difficult condition is not the solution try to face them , Peace of Mind is imp. same you can get here once you understand the expectation & requirement of your lady boss.
Secondly Going thru old record means , he may be asking you to find a solution on exit of the staff also. I would suggest you to make summary of all the file & evaluate them & make a good presentation with help the of senior or good Friend/well wisher, wish will give clear Idea about the old employee, current employee .Also will tell them , or will give idea & help them in recruiting new staff ,
Lastly take every new thing as challenge, then only you will grow.
So all the best.
BABUDADA
From India, Mumbai
I totally agree with Mr. Anil & other Gentleman - what ever they said is right .Running away from the difficult condition is not the solution try to face them , Peace of Mind is imp. same you can get here once you understand the expectation & requirement of your lady boss.
Secondly Going thru old record means , he may be asking you to find a solution on exit of the staff also. I would suggest you to make summary of all the file & evaluate them & make a good presentation with help the of senior or good Friend/well wisher, wish will give clear Idea about the old employee, current employee .Also will tell them , or will give idea & help them in recruiting new staff ,
Lastly take every new thing as challenge, then only you will grow.
So all the best.
BABUDADA
From India, Mumbai
At the end, it\'s job satisfaction that matters. If one is not happy at work, whatsoever income is earned, it\'s of no use. And, you are even offered same compensation from the previous employer. Secondly, you are approached by your last co. on their own and it\'s clear that u\'ll get more respect in prev organization. Last but not least, u hav to see wheather u want to have a haappy satisfied life easily or want to have even higher satisfaction by getting success after struggling in current organization. Also, note that high risk is also involved in achievibg higher satisfaction. Good luck.
From India, Delhi
From India, Delhi
My Question to you all who are talking about "Job Satisfaction"
How many of you are satisfied with present work conditions at your work place or with your job and at what percentage?
I would be really happy to know your honest status and views about it
Second, would like to refer the articles and request you to have a look at once
Getting 'motivated' to work - Times Of India
http://www.business-standard.com/ind...-study/466585/
"If there are some unpleasant things that you don't like at work, just think that 'it will pass' and in the long run it's your life and goals that are important. The job satisfaction, the money and the break that you take from work is only enriching your life."
From India, Gurgaon
How many of you are satisfied with present work conditions at your work place or with your job and at what percentage?
I would be really happy to know your honest status and views about it
Second, would like to refer the articles and request you to have a look at once
Getting 'motivated' to work - Times Of India
http://www.business-standard.com/ind...-study/466585/
"If there are some unpleasant things that you don't like at work, just think that 'it will pass' and in the long run it's your life and goals that are important. The job satisfaction, the money and the break that you take from work is only enriching your life."
From India, Gurgaon
Dear N102
Your comment is very much confusing. Now lets talk about your situation, the wish of your 2nd Boss that you read 25 box files is not wrong. Any one who wish to make a good career in any company is supposed to know the past working of the company these files can give you the information about the decision making process and the mind set of that Company.
The confusion/duplication in orders must not be taken very seriously, understand where ever Boss's wife attend office employees have these type of problems and they have to learn or devise the way to deal with them without hampering the work. In many companies where two or more people control working and hold similar powers these problems exists and people working there have to adjust with them. I have seen companies where Chairman and MD were having differences and they were very polite to each other but they were always shouting on the seniors who were close to any one of them and some of the senior people were feeling like punching bags where any one will come and punch them.
I have felt that you are very much unsatisfied in present circumstances and you were unsatisfied for various reasons with your previous employer. Now you have seen both sides and may be in better position to decide which vice is better then other. But friend you must be careful that this should not become your nature and if happens so it will be a big problem for you. No unsatisfied employee can perform well in any Job.
You feel this lady Boss will sack you but I feel this may never happen as every Boss is different and in case of some ladies who become superiors just by the virtue of being the wife of Boss, they try to exert more powers/pressures on employees as they feel that's the way to get respected. So if you wish to stay in this company you have to forget these things and have to make adjustments and understand the nature of this Lady. If you feel it's too much for you to manage just leave and go back to your previous Company but before going back you must accept the shortcomings in that Company & make yourself mentally agree to the working of that Company.
One most important point to discuss with old employer is about the future of your salary etc. as some time Employers employ some one at higher salary and later feel bad and then they try to avoid giving proper increments etc.
Lastly I would like to say, you have all the information and have enough experience and are sure that you can't adjust in this company. So why you are so confused, are you waiting for your previous employer to find a new person or for new employer to handover a sack letter to you. Dear confusion and halfhearted actions or lack of actions can ruin one's career.
The last thing I wish to say " It's better to Rule in Hell than Serve in Heaven.
With Best wishes.
From India, Delhi
Your comment is very much confusing. Now lets talk about your situation, the wish of your 2nd Boss that you read 25 box files is not wrong. Any one who wish to make a good career in any company is supposed to know the past working of the company these files can give you the information about the decision making process and the mind set of that Company.
The confusion/duplication in orders must not be taken very seriously, understand where ever Boss's wife attend office employees have these type of problems and they have to learn or devise the way to deal with them without hampering the work. In many companies where two or more people control working and hold similar powers these problems exists and people working there have to adjust with them. I have seen companies where Chairman and MD were having differences and they were very polite to each other but they were always shouting on the seniors who were close to any one of them and some of the senior people were feeling like punching bags where any one will come and punch them.
I have felt that you are very much unsatisfied in present circumstances and you were unsatisfied for various reasons with your previous employer. Now you have seen both sides and may be in better position to decide which vice is better then other. But friend you must be careful that this should not become your nature and if happens so it will be a big problem for you. No unsatisfied employee can perform well in any Job.
You feel this lady Boss will sack you but I feel this may never happen as every Boss is different and in case of some ladies who become superiors just by the virtue of being the wife of Boss, they try to exert more powers/pressures on employees as they feel that's the way to get respected. So if you wish to stay in this company you have to forget these things and have to make adjustments and understand the nature of this Lady. If you feel it's too much for you to manage just leave and go back to your previous Company but before going back you must accept the shortcomings in that Company & make yourself mentally agree to the working of that Company.
One most important point to discuss with old employer is about the future of your salary etc. as some time Employers employ some one at higher salary and later feel bad and then they try to avoid giving proper increments etc.
Lastly I would like to say, you have all the information and have enough experience and are sure that you can't adjust in this company. So why you are so confused, are you waiting for your previous employer to find a new person or for new employer to handover a sack letter to you. Dear confusion and halfhearted actions or lack of actions can ruin one's career.
The last thing I wish to say " It's better to Rule in Hell than Serve in Heaven.
With Best wishes.
From India, Delhi
Dear friend,
Sorry to learn about the pathetic situation you have to overcome. At the end of the day peace of time and job satisfaction is important not money alone. Just forget the past as though it was just a bad dream.
It is better to go back to your old employer itself. But once you approach him; let it not look like you are trying to gain his sympathy. Be very diplomatic and professional in approach remember. As far as possible do not comment on your present employer and wife. How much ever good he might be or happy he is to welcome you back? you have been marked. Once you go back try to stick on with him for quite some time (say 3-5 years) so that these things do not happen often. There may not be a third time whatsoever. Even though I am not aware about your educational background, during your tenure with him, try to upgrade yourself by doing some good courses useful for long term future. so that you need not have to look back for ever.
From India, Bangalore
Sorry to learn about the pathetic situation you have to overcome. At the end of the day peace of time and job satisfaction is important not money alone. Just forget the past as though it was just a bad dream.
It is better to go back to your old employer itself. But once you approach him; let it not look like you are trying to gain his sympathy. Be very diplomatic and professional in approach remember. As far as possible do not comment on your present employer and wife. How much ever good he might be or happy he is to welcome you back? you have been marked. Once you go back try to stick on with him for quite some time (say 3-5 years) so that these things do not happen often. There may not be a third time whatsoever. Even though I am not aware about your educational background, during your tenure with him, try to upgrade yourself by doing some good courses useful for long term future. so that you need not have to look back for ever.
From India, Bangalore
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