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Korgaonkar K A
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24th January 2013 From India, Pune
However, Manager-Marketing denotes that there is a superior manager in the Marketing department aboue him (like Sr Manager - Marketing or GM - Marketing etc). Marketing Manager for a location or area is responsible for Marketing in his domain / area, though he may report to a overall Marketing Head. Therefore, the two terms may differ in the accountability of the post.
25th January 2013 From India, Coimbatore
26th January 2013 From India
26th January 2013 From India
Greetings to all.
Designations are according to company's own decision. There is at present no uniformity in private sector. There two methods of designating a post, (1) Place the post first, and (2) activity thereafter or (1) place the activity first, and (2) post thereafter. If the organization has many departments headed by a manager then it is better to put post first and activity thereafter e.g. Manager (Marketing), Manager (HR), Manager (Stores) etc. Further designating the posts Marketing Manager, HR Manager, Stores Manager etc is also not out place, however in this system first word immediately conveys the idea that the person belongs to which field.
You can go ahead with any of the system. The job description of each post has to be defined with precision.
With regards and good wihses.
26th January 2013 From India, New Delhi
Designation is an important aspect in the life of an employee, as it distinguishes him from others . An attractive, correctly worded designation will give advantage to the professional at 'ab initio' (right in the beginning), while dealing with clients, colleagues and subordinate staff.
Consider the following 6 points, while designing and deciding 'designations'
1. A designation should cover three aspects - (a) Position (b) Activity (c) Region/Zone. Eg., Manager-Marketing, Bangalore or Manager-Marketing, Tamil Nadu. (please note that the designation is followed by activity and region he/she is responsible). This is more suitable, if the activity of the Company is spread across multiple Regions/State/ Nations.
2. If there is only one position, then the Region can be skipped, Eg., Manager-Marketing.
3. The designation of Marketing-Manager is not suggested, even if he/she is the senior most in the Dept, as it limits the scope of promotion. For eg., it Sr Manager-Marketing or AVP-Marketing, sounds better that 'Marketing-Sr Manager' or Marketing-AVP. For the same reason.
4. Head-Marketing may also be avoided, as there is no further scope of promotion in the same Dept. However, this must be a considerate decision, after weighing all other factors.
5. Using of brackets in designation is outdated. Eg., Manager (Marketing). Instead use hyphen and comma. Eg., Manager-Marketing, Tamil Nadu.
6. There are other aspects to be considered to avoid disparity and complaints - levels, grade, salary, designation in other Depts of the same organisations. Some organisations go to the extend of studying the designations prevalent in the industry/ organisations, as it helps in prevention of poaching.
Designation should make an employee proud. A good designation tends to attract candidates. Parity in designations (in other depts of the organisation and even with the nearest competitors) will help in retention of employees. Hence, great care must be taken while deciding the designation.
With warm regards
27th January 2013 From India, Thiruvananthapuram
Simple......Marketing Manager,...Accounts Manager....etc...there can be only one person...with might be seniors above them. Manager - Marketing.....Manager - Front Office....Manager- Accounts ...shows there are more than one Manager in the dept. with the same designation ...same responsibilities .....and there is a head above them
27th January 2013 From India, Kochi
I am happy to learn an exanded presentation from you. Nonetheless it is the prerogative of the Management to adopt a particular pattern of designations. HR Dept. can make suggestions to the Managment for taking an appropriate decision. However I feel like not subscribing to Point No.3 of your post that "prefixing of activity to post" limits the scope of promotion. On promotion the posts can be designated as Sr. Marketing Manager, Chief Marketing Manager or AVP-Marketing as a company may decide.
Use of bracket or hyphen etc does not make any material change or create any extraordinary impression because the Government of India and other govt. department are continuing on the pattern of bracket. However your suggestion is also good to consider at all levels.
With due respect and good wishes to all.
Have nice day.
Srivastava C M Lal
27th January 2013 From India, New Delhi
To your this thread, there are more than 200 viewers and more than half a dozen replies which gave me a temptation to post my view on your query.
If I call you Madam Sheela or Sheela Madam, what is the difference in it? The same difference you will find in your query subject.
I do not give importance to any designation. What you deliver is important to me. I do not wish to make more comments on this subject. There are many important subjects which need comments.
27th January 2013 From India, Mumbai
Here the designations are given according to their experience & promotions
Nok at it in this way:
Asst.Manager will be number one of the Branch in Rural area.
In urban areas Manager / Senior Manager Chief Managers will be number one and others work under him
In metros branches may be headed by Asst.General Managers or by Dy.General Managers depending upon the business mix of the branch.
In some Banks Chief Managers / Asst.General Managers may head Regional / Circle offices comprising 30 to 40 Branches.
The responsibility lies where they are posted and not on designation. So designation is nothing but a mere reognisation.
But to differenciate Manager Marketing and Marketing Manager it is like Cabinet Minister and Prime Minister all are Ministers only
28th January 2013 From India, Chennai