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prabhunadh
Hi, Pls explain difference between admin and hr
From India, Bangalore
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Loginmiracle
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Akash Kumaran
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vikasvyash
6

Diffrence Between Admin & H.R.
Earlier in india H.R. was not in light. In manufacturing company there were one departmet Personal & Administration which was taking care of all employees.Following is the deference between H.R.7 Admin as per my opinion:
Administration:
1.Making lease of accomodations, Keep them in good condition,provide accommodation to employees as per management decision and kkep an eye on all.(Water Supply,Electricity,maintenance)..
2.Vehicle arrangements.(to Keep company vehicle in good condition,Updated insurance policy etc.)
3.Security Function.
4.Water supply in comany premices,Liasioning with govt.bodies.
H.R.
1.Payroll Processing.
2.Performance Management.
3.Recruitment.
4.Statutory Compliance.
5.Training and development.
Above is the short note on functions of H.R. & Admin.
If you have not satisfied,send your reply.
With Regards
Vikas Vyas
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From India, Vapi
bhaktinarang_123
148

Administration KRA

1. Scheduling

2. Project Support

3. Safety & Health Management

4. Vehicle Management

5. Visitor Protocol

6. Records Management

7. Filing

8. Administrative Support.

9. Internal Customer relations.

10. Equipment maintenance



Administrative KRAs 2

1. Registration Processes

2. Solving Legal issues

3. Safety management

4. Coordination with vendors

5. Taking care of House Keeping (Cleanness)

6. Infrastructure Management

7. Lodging and traveling arrangement

8. Stationary requirements

9. Some places it includes attendance management too

Administrative KRA 3

1. Local Transport Management (car rental etc)

2. Travel (bus, train) and hotel bookings

3. Stationery procurement & consumption monitoring

4. Employee related activities Access cards, Visiting cards etc

5. Pantry operation (tea/coffee etc) & catering service

6. Courier management

7. Fax & photocopy machine

8. Phone & Mobile issual to and retrieval from employees (Typical to telecom industry)

9. Liasioning with statutory agencies and statutory compliances (PF, ESIC, Labour Inspector etc)

Administration KRAs 4

1. Local Transport Management (car rental etc)

2. Travel (bus, train) and hotel bookings

3. Stationery procurement & consumption monitoring

4. Employee related activities Access cards, Visiting cards etc

5. Pantry operation (tea/coffee etc) & catering service

6. Courier management

7. Fax & photocopy machine

8. Phone & Mobile issual to and retrieval from employees (Typical to telecom industry)

9. Liasioning with statutory agencies and statutory compliances (PF, ESIC, Labour Inspector etc)

10. Cost reduction

11. Responsive time

12. Maintenance (Cleaning, supply, etc)

13. Stationary management

14. Vendor management

15. Registration Processes

16. Solving Legal issues

17. Safety management

18. Coordination with vendors

19. Taking care of House Keeping (Cleanness)

20. Infrastructure Management

21. Lodging and traveling arrangement

22. Stationary requirements

23. Some places it includes attendance management too

Human resources KRAs

1. Recruitment & Selection

Reduce Average time taken to fill vacancies

Reduce Average cost per recruitment

Finalize selection in 5 weeks for each individual position

Workplace accidents

Reduce workplace accidents

2. Building capabilities and organizing learning

Training

All workforces below middle management should receive a minimum of 4 days training.

Maximize induction training. Maximize training workshops

Employees Development

Training needs analysis & Competencies development.

3. Performance Management

Performance Appraisal

Managing Employees through KRAs

Achieve 100% performance appraisals against total employees.

4. Monitoring employee deployment

5. Compensation and benefits.

6. Employee Relations

7. Statutory Compliance

8. Reward Management

9. Effective HR management systems, support & monitoring

10. Workplace Management

Reduction in absenteeism per employees

Increase in employee satisfaction

Talent retention and turnover ratio.

Reduce the labor turnover

Benchmark total HR costs externally.

From India, Mumbai
81827
67

Hi,
In the works of any entity (company, association, corporation, school, college, hospital, foundation, etc.), the Administration is in charge of the organizing, decision-making, control, supervision, growth, and basically the overall performance and well-being of the entity.
Human Resources is only a branch or department of the entity. Its purpose revolves around the people that work for the entity--employees, laborers, administrators, and so on.Human Resources part is in charge of supervising these people, assuring work environment quality (individual and collective), searching for new and efficient resources (new employees, so to speak), and everything else related while also remaining in accord with the Adminitration's requests/preferences/policies and with the law.
Monika

From India, Bangalore
pcrao2011
2

I think the difference between Admin and HR has also to do with separation of interests:
1. HR makes promises to the employees about work environment and perks, and Admin tries to keep the promises within available resources. So, HR displays an optimistic approach whereas Admin displays a pessimistic approach in taking care of employee needs.
2. Metaphorically speaking, if man is a computer with mind as software and body as hardware, HR is the software engineering and Admin is the hardware engineering.
3. Finally, HR needs to justify when employee finds a gap between what he expected from the company and what he is getting. Also, employee needs to explain his performance gap between what is expected from him and what he could deliver. Go ahead guys, blame it on the Admin problems! It is the easiest way out for all.

From India, Bangalore
loginmiracle
362

Hats off to U BhaktiNarang, How much patience and time U got to put in such an elaborate reply. Hu. Good job.
However friends there is only a very thin line between these two. Many firms have both blended into one dept. There is no hard and fast rule who should do what. It's all depend on the history and convenience and CEO's preference and administrative convenience of the corporation. To define HR function in a line, it's everything related to HRD and Admn. means administering everything incl.that of HR, Finance, Production, sales, services and admn.
Is't clear ? I doubt.
kumar.s.

From India, Bangalore
Venky1342
31

Dear Madhura,
While appreciating your sarcastic comments, I have one comment:
H.R HIGHLY RATED ( HR PEOPLE THINK LIKE THIS ONLY)
ADMIN: THANKLESS JOB.
WHATEVER YOU SAY AS ADMIN MANAGER PEOPLE FIND A WHOLE IN THAT AND NO ONE APPRECIATE.... OUR JOB IS INVISIBLE BUT OUR JOB MISTAKES VISIBLE TO OTHERS ALWAYS AND ... no one say thanks to Admin Dept...
regards - venkat - bangalore

From India, Bangalore
saiconsult
1898

When the queriest sought to know the difference between Administration and HRM in all it's seriousness, it is disappointing to see some sarcastic remarks in expaining the distinction between the two.If one wants to know the ditinction between the two, one should see rajusiachen's succinct one line statement, followed by Bhaktinarang's exhaustive list, elaborating the said statement.
B.Saikumar
Mumbai

From India, Mumbai
pb_bisht
33

Dear Prabhunadh,
There is no such difference in between HR & Admin, they both are under one term called HRD but, functionally you can define them as Admin, Operation, Compensation & Benefits and Recruitment and many more names cane be generated.
As said all comes under one umbrella of HRD.
Where Admin is responsible for facility management, rest of the name like Operation which is basically responsible for Payroll and Statutory Compliance, Recruitment for Hiring and C&B for performance Management and etc.
Hence don't get confused, this is just about a terminology which is being generated as we are day by day trying to facilitate our service by its virtue.

From India, Delhi
idealhr
16

The admin department is at the top of all company decisions and functions involved while the Human Resource department is just one of these departments that comes under the admin and supervises people and manages human resource in that company.
From India, Bengaluru
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