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B K BHATIA
Director Of Company
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Hi,
I just wanted to hear from you guys about your stand of having 2 managers in one department. I am currently working in an Agricultual Industry. (HR-admin) Now, our department has been divided into two, under Admin. Manager and HRMD Manager. The only thing that I observed is that the department seems to be not united anymore.
What can you say about this?

From Philippines, Davao City
Hi
Do you know the reason(s) why the department is divided this way? What is the total staff strength of your organisation and the HR department? Have clear roles, expectations & KPIs been identified and communicated? Have workflow and SOPs been established after the change?
Autumn Jane

From Singapore, Singapore
Greetings.
I second to Autumn Jane. It happens if number of employees have exceed certain number.
Please let me know,
To whom are you reporting?
To whom these managers are reporting?
When two departments are setup, didn't they defined roles and responsibilities for various employees as per domain standards?
You need to share more information with us.
With profound regards

From India, Chennai
Dear friend
There is no wrong in dividing the departments into two for administrative convenience. If the work load is more, the Departments can be divided into two or three with different heads, duly distributing the various functions under each department. However, it should be taken care that there should not be any duplication of work.
Suri Babu Komakula

From Canada, Calgary
You can't say now "2 managers in one department". The existing department has already been bifurcated in to two separate departments to look after the HRM and administration separately where duties and responsibilities of each manager and the department are quite distinct, not overlapping to each other.
From India, Delhi
Hi thank you guys for replying.
This two managers are directly reportung to AVP-HRD. I am under in Admin. Manager.
Under this manager there are only 3 sectionswhich composed of 4 to 6 staff.
here is the otherside of the story we have another manager not because of the staff population but this is because they want to separate the HRD divide it and classify all the sections whether if it is for Administrative function or Human Resources Management and Development.

From Philippines, Davao City
What makes it alarming for me is that sone of the Administrative functions were distributed to HRMD like Labors Relations, Records Section and Recruitment. That is why I am skeptical about the existence of another manager.
From Philippines, Davao City
Design of 'organization structures' is based on business needs. All growing organizations tend to bifurcate the administrative & HR functions to exercise better controls. If each employee in the newly created departments has a well defined role (ie, Job Description) & clear reporting relationships, I find no reason for skepticism or confusion of any kind.
It may be desirable, therefore, to understand your own role in the overall HR & Admin set up operating under the guidance & control of your AVP - HRD. Raise your concerns internally since all organizations may differ in their structure and no one other your own AVP can address your genuine concerns.

From India, Delhi
dear friend
-this is common practice.
to solve this :-
*have role clearity.
*job rotation
*org goal and dept sub goal clearity.
*good inter-dept connect socially- org monthly social etc
*quality circle

From India, Delhi
I also face the same problem. I am happy by reding this article and I feel I am in right track. John HR & AO Riyadh
From Saudi Arabia, Riyadh
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