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Suresh P
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Hi,

I have been offered the post of HR Associate by a reputed manufacturing company(I was on third party payroll) and my joining date was fixed as 1st Aug 11.At the time I was being offered I was already employed with a firm,getting my joining date I resigned from my firm I was working.

But after that they had been postponing my joining date for almost one and a half month.I was sitting at home and doing nothing in that duration waiting for my joining date.

Being frustrated I started looking for other opportunities and I got another offer so I had informed them about this, at that time the company recruiter said that you may go ahead with the offer you have but my consultancy recruiter said that you better wait for one more week and I will get your issue resolved.Today its almost 3 months I have'nt received any feedback on my joining date.My total exp is 1.7 yrs.

I want to ask that can we complain about any such situations we are faced?? Kindly help me through your valuable suggestions.
26th September 2011 From India, Pune
communicate in writing to the Company’s Directors / board with all facts of the situation. regards
26th September 2011 From India, Bangalore
Hi Garima,

Coming through your 1.7 years experience, by now you can understand how an organization works and their methodology towards their own employees.

After learning about this offer that has been in pending for the last 3 months, I strongly advise you to seek for other opportunities. I also recommend not to follow the consultancy recruiters, who work on their monthly targets. If you deny this offer, your consultancy recruiter looses their commission money that they expect from the hiring company. Now, you can understand the background of their advise.

As everybody does agree, first impression is the last impression... if a company cannot build trust in you during the initial engagement, can you really expect a long term commitment with this company in future? Once you compromise yourself, you will have to compromise in many future situations.

Hence I sincerely recommend you to go ahead and find a better opportunity. You won't get any returns in positive by waiting for this company call or complaining on them... it will be just waste of your time, energy, and patience. Invest this frustration into a new opportunity and expect another better opportunity.

Convince yourself and think positive: whatever happens in life that happens for a good cause. Good luck!
26th September 2011 From United Arab Emirates, Dubai
Hello Garima,
Anil has given you a very loaded & mature advice.
Whether one agrees or not with Anil's explanation of the 'why' of the Consultancy recruiter's suggestion to you, don't you think YOU HAD AN OPTION TO IGNORE IT, especially given the facts that you are NOT a fresher & the company recruiter gave you a clear answer to your query?
And just give this aspect a thought: what do you wish to achieve by complaining about the situation--except wasting your time & loosing focus from YOUR NEXT CAREER STEP? Anil's words aptly explain the situation vis-a-vis the company: '......... if a company cannot build trust in you during the initial engagement............'.
Just look out for other openings, LEARNING from this experience.
All the Best.
Rgds,
TS
26th September 2011 From India, Hyderabad
Greetings,

In addition to what have been suggested to you, please be assured, a career is way beyond than one job offer or a rejection. As you rise the levels, you will realize why such a slip-up happens. Right now, use that intelligence and bring in the best change for yourself.

This incident is not an isolated or an unique event. You will master such endless delays and ambiguity in the process, as you work along with it. This will help you think clearly and talk straight when you are being interviewed. You would be now far more sensitive to any hint that comes your way.

One swallow doesn't make a summer, yet experience such as this smarten us. You must have noticed a statement in the letter of intent framed as shared below:

"The job offer remains valid if accepted or acknowledge with 15 days from now. In case no information is received within next 15 days , the job offer stands null and void."

Please include this in your communication, such as , when an offer is made and date of joining is shared. Please revert with an end date beyond which you will not join the firm.

The negotiation for salary stands the same ground. If you are clear about your market value and is more keen towards the take home, please communicate the lowest salary beyond which you will not consider the offer. Similarly , the designation and reporting will require equal amount of clarity. If possible ask for a day's schedule at the new job. If you are no getting any answers on reporting structures, take a particular area and question on whom to contact in case there is any escalation .

However, please ensure, you retain highest standard for grace and courtesy. Often a straight talk can be misjudged as audacity and become the reason for rejection.

Please consider reading this article Interviewees questions <link updated to site home> ( Search On Cite | Search On Google )

Regards,

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27th September 2011 From India, Mumbai
Dear Garima,
The company had told you to go ahead with the other offer, Thus you cannot complain against the company. And there is no use complaining against your consultancy... They are not the employer you seek.
Whever you get job offers, there is no harm seeking advise from not just the consultancy but every one you know. But at the end, you have to weigh your options and take a judgement as to what is best for you.
If the company had not reverted to you for over a month there is less chance that they will close the loop in a weeks time.
You may wait, if doesn't mean loosing on other opportunity. But if you dont have the luxury of time, better grab the opportunity at hand.
Regards
OJS
27th September 2011 From India, Delhi
Somashekhar Thanks for your suggestion but I don’t have any contact details either email id or contact no. through which I can contact the Directors or any body else.
27th September 2011 From India, Pune
Hi Anil,
Thanks for your valuable suggestion.I agree to whatever you said.But the thing is that the company is a very reputed one and previously I was working with a small firm so I was tempted to grab that opportunity, and when the consultancy recruiter assured me to wait I thought why not to wait for one week more when I have already waited so long!
But now I have lost all hopes regarding that offer and I am looking for a better opportunity.
27th September 2011 From India, Pune
Hello TS,
I agree with you but as I told Anil I was tempted at that time to grab the offer of a reputed firm so I did'nt ignored her suggestion.But this event definitely gave me a lesson.
Regards
Garima
27th September 2011 From India, Pune
Hello OJS, Thanks for your suggestion I have learned a good lesson from this incident.Now I am more focused of what I should do.Thanks again. Regards Garima
27th September 2011 From India, Pune
Hi Ojaswini, Thanks for your suggestion.I have learned a good lesson from this incident and I am more focused and clear about what I should do now.Thanks again. Regards Garima
27th September 2011 From India, Pune
Hi (Cite Contribution),
My joining date was mentioned as 1/Sep/11 and it was written that I will be on a year contract nothing else was mentioned in the letter as ,if I don't join within these much of days this offer will expire.
Thanks for your views.
Regards
Garima
27th September 2011 From India, Pune
Hello Garima,
Glad that you have learnt the lesson--but a word of caution: take it in a positive way rather than with a feeling of being cheated/taken-for-a-ride [I know it's tough, but that's a much better way]. It's only then that the lesson you learnt will stand by you later--part of the experience in life/career.

A comment to your response["........the company is a very reputed one and previously I was working with a small firm so I was tempted........."] to Anil's remarks. Pl note that the size of the company doesn't really matter in such matters/cases. After all they too are staffed by 'human beings' & human nature being what it is, such situations can occur irrespective of the size/stature of the organization. Just use the reSearch feature at the top of this page & you will see how many threads have been posted reg such issues/situations--some with the company names mentioned.
Another possibility--maybe the consultancy HR person COULDN'T[or rather DIDN'T want to] see the disappointment on your face by giving the 'bad news'? I have seen this happen quite often--just as we know on 'how' to give the good news, it's also important to learn on 'how' to give/break the 'bad' news to someone--else maybe you could find YOURSELF in that HR person's place later in your career.

All the Best.
Rgds,
TS
27th September 2011 From India, Hyderabad
Dear Girima,
Just I would like to remind you about your own punchline under signature - "If you think you could you definitely can!!!. read these words again and again, you will definitely get the inspiration to fight back in the current situation and later in the life as well.
Suresh
28th September 2011 From India, Pune
hi i 100% agree with Mr. Anil’s views. Think positive & go ahead.Lot’s of opportunities in front of u. Good Luck. vikrant jain
28th September 2011 From India, Jalandhar
Hi Garima,

I am totally agree with above suggestions, and would advice you to understand "time value", Wasting a single hour in your career may hamper your success in life, Hence please try to seek other opportunity and moreover if you have caliber and potential you would get better chance to work for more reputed company.

Normally Companies do not opt such practice what is been stated , Since this adversely affect their prestige and market value, there must be some genuine reason to put you on hold, Tommorow or later in your career you might get a bigger opportunity in same company, at that moment would you really feel comfortable to work with those people against whom you made complain, Because every employee of the company is bound to work as per company norms, so you really don't
know about the actual reason for delaying your appointment.

I would suggest you to have positive attitude and treat "NO" as "NEXT OPPOTUNITY", move further in your life and climb success steps of ladder.
28th September 2011 From India, New Delhi
Hi garima, i just want to say that pls don’t wait any more for that company its ur fault u waited for that now having time to grow up again and look for gud oppertunities.........
28th September 2011 From India, Delhi
Dear Ms. Garima,
Its not about the company you want to complaint, its about the management or those who are operating it. To be honest, NO COMPANY IN THIS WORLD IS BAD because its has NO LIFE but, its all about those WHO PUT LIFE IN IT so called "MANAGEMENT" or whomsoever held responsible for making employees complaint about xyz issues.
Its not the company to be corrected but the SYSTEMS and PROCEDURES in place/practice
With profound regards
29th September 2011 From India, Chennai
Dear all, i am working in a company and need to draft several kind of letter, warning letter, termination letter, thank you letter for different reason please help me in this regards.
27th October 2014 From Afghanistan, Shar
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