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23rd November 2011 From India, Pune
Thanks for sharing the attachment with us... It's good one, no doubt, but not a perfect document...
Can you help me in bringing clarity to the below:
How much distance to be maintained while transporting and while in use between oxygen and fuel gas (LPG or DA)...
If you can give the reference to any act or rule it will be of much help to me...
May further add this also into your procedure...
23rd November 2011 From India
To the best of my knowledge The Acts or Rules Factories Act, Compressed Cylinder Rules are silent on the distance to be kept between the oxygen and fuel gas.
However Good Engineering Practices would recommend to use a combined trolly for Transportation.
You have to ensure that the LPG or DA does not leak. The hoses to be free from cracks.
Red hose to be used for fuel gas, and Black for Oxygen.
In fact if you have any different views please share.
24th November 2011 From India, Nasik
Thanks for your feedback...
Go through the attachment... In this accident 3 persons died... In almost 99% places in India gas cylinders are being shifted in such type of vehicles and in the same both fuel and oxygen cylinders are mixed up also...
In my opinion the industrial wide practise of transporting both oxygen and fuel gas in one trolley is also not safe... If it is transporting in one trolley, while in use also they will be keeping together in this cylinder...
Requesting all members to go through the attachment and comment on safe transportation (1. In Site (Internal) and 2. from Supplier to Site) and safe distance to be kept while the cylinders are in use...
25th November 2011 From India
This refers to earlier post.
I was thinking transportation within the Factory Premises, which is usually done on a manual trolley.
Thank you very much for pictures, it will be good for trainings.
As per the fire chemistry, fire will take place only if following three things combine together
I feel in the above incident while the Oxygen Cylinders were being unloaded, one must have rolled over LPG Cylinder, causing friction there by generating spark.
Probably the LPG was leaking which caught fire and exploded.
Please refer to the photograph no 2 on page no 1 of your pdf file.
According to me the
1. LPG Cylinder looks to be expired.
2. Cylinder Valve is not proper
3. Valve safety ring is not visible in the photograph no.2
4. Every possibility that cylinder was leaking.
After the expiry of cylinders these are taken out of circulation, and send to Authorized Agency for Inspection, Hydro Pressure Test after which if found OK, can be reused again. Such agencies have very strict rules and regulations. I have audited one such party, these parties take care of all the Tests and have perfect records.
Please find attached herewith the abstract of Gas Cylinder Rules and refer rule 35 on page no 17. It is clearly mentioned that the Fuel gas Cylinders should not be transported together with any other gas.
Therefore your question of “how much distance to be kept while transportation” is answered.
We will have to train the procurement engineers to make a Purchase Order clause “that Fuel Gas Cylinders shall be supplied separately”, although at slightly extra freight.
Your pictures would help convince Procurement Engineers. Thanks again.
26th November 2011 From India, Nasik
Thanks for your feedback and attaching the abstract of gas cylinder rules...
I am attaching one photograph of gas cylinder trolley which is mostly using by us... Please go through it and give your comment on following:
1. Whether this internal transportation is safe?
2. While in use if both these cylinders kept on this trolley, is this safe? If not how much distance we should suggest...
Thanks in advance...
Keep on sharing your expertise with us...
27th November 2011 From India
in Your Document You Mentioned
17.Empty and full cylinders should be stored in separate areas.
Why Empty and full cylinders should be stored separately?
As i know it is easy for Identification During Transportation
is there any other Reason?
23rd January 2019 From India