Mahesh534
engineer
Is there a supreme court ruling which says that for the count of 20 people for PF, will all employees count or only those employees with Wages below 6500?
From India, Panipat
saihanuman2007
HR Trainee
i think crossing of 20 of more employees employed in any establishment or factory has to provide pf to them. for example if the factory or an establishment crossed 20 terminates 5 in the next year has to provide pf for remaining....... tis was i known recently
From India, Pondicherry
all employees working for the establishment and getting wages will be counted for coverage even they earn more than 6500/- but they can not be a member for pf deduction subject to the condition
wagadari

From India, Pune
Dear mahesh employee means all employees wages does not matter cause if employer and employee agree then he can deduct the epf contribution on wages more than 6500/- thanks pawan bhatia 09812585353
From India, Bahadurgarh
Regarding PF deductions for salaried persons beyond prescribed limit of contribution

Salary paid to an employee is Rs. 30,000 per month and PF contribution deducted as per rules i.e. 12% on Rs. 6,500/- which amounts to Rs. 780/- + 780/- = Rs. 1,560 (employee + employer).
Points for discussion are:
Case No. 1
1. The employee’s attendance is 30 days and earns full salary. His PF contribution is Rs. 780/- + 780/- = Rs. 1,560 (employee + employer) and accordingly form – 3-A will be generated.
Case No. 2
1. The employee’s attendance is 21 days then he earns Rs. 21,000/-.

What is his PF contribution:

a. Whether PF contribution remains same i.e. Rs. 1,560/- (employee + employer) on Rs. 6,500/-, or
b. PF contribution will be calculated on salary Rs. 4,550/- (Rs. 6,500/30*21) which amounts to Rs. 546/- + 546/- = Rs. 1,092 (employee + employer) ?
My questions in case No. 2 are:
1. In case (a) there is no service break shown as PF contribution of full amount of Rs. 6,500/-, but muster roll shows 4 days absent (i.e. service break) and accordingly form – 3-A will be generated.

2. In case (b) the employee has 4 days service break and contribution is on salary Rs. 4,550/- (Rs. 6,500/30*21) which amounts to Rs. 546/- + 546/- = Rs. 1,092 (employee + employer) so contribution and service break will be matched for same days and accordingly form – 3-A will be generated.
What is actual position as per rules under PF Act? Please guide.

KM Kogata

From India, Jaipur
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