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Dear Ashok
The PF Inspector can call any workmen and ask for his PF Number or his details for checking the 100% coverage of PF and not about the liability and other things which is nowhere concerned with him.
Hope we are not discussing here regarding the PF exempted employees.
For casual labourers also we have to deduct the PF and If you are not deducting from the casual labourers then you have to show their PF details and explain that both the employee and employer share are being paid by the employer/contractor. Then it can be easily sorted out.
With warm regards
S. Bhaskar

From India, Kumbakonam
Dear All,
We have paid the casual labours on daily basis as per minimum wages act.The case is as follows
Casual labours are paid 260 rupees daily.None of them worked more than 20days in a month.The
paid amount of rupees is Rs5200 per month. We have not deposited PF on such amounts.If we
will calculate total wage for a month then it will be 260*26 = 6760 (Basic Wage amount) is
exempted one.
The question is Whether we will pay recovery amount on the Paid amount ?

From India, Delhi
Dear Sir
I can easily understand the fact of this discussion as per this query the matter around of excluded or covered employee, It is cleared by Varun's Last post (dated 24/09/2011)
Thanks and Best Regards

From India, New Delhi
Coverage of employees engaged for a part of month based on daily rate amount paid for the days worked and then multiplying the same by 30 to decide coverage is applicable in the case of ESI since there exists a separate notification in this regard. But there seems to be no such notification from EPFO.

From India, Kannur
Dear Madhu Sir,
One of my clients is a construction company; while entering into an agreement with an organisation for construction of their office premises they had quoted their total construction cost excluding ESI. The agreement was to construct 8 blocks; after completion of 3 blocks they had handed over the same to the organisation which also has begun operation. Now, the ESIC is demanding remittance on the groud that the interpretation of construction will not hold good if operation has begun in part of the construction site. Rest of the construction can only be termed as development. Pls guide if my client needs to pay ESIC

From India, Madras
Yeah Roopa Biswal, if the construction activity is going on in the existing factory premises and if the factory or organisation is covered under ESI Act, then obviously the Construction company also will have to pay the ESI.
Like that If the construction activity is going on in the existing factory premises then the BOCW Act will not apply to that project.

From India, Kumbakonam
Dear skhadir/Madhu,
I think let us join together to come to the relevent provision of Pf law under the above circumstances and most importantly highlighting the settled principal of law rather sharing egoistic views to each other.
subhomoy chakraborty

From India, Calcutta
Dear Mr. Subhomoy Chakraborty, Kindly go through all replies posted by various members before posting your comments. With profound regards
From India, Chennai
Dear skhadir,
I have posted my comment after perusing all the comment. Thanks for your advice and pls correct yourself. you have just asked to go through the act not come accrossed the exact proposition of law which was sought by the reader. hope, now you have understood.

From India, Calcutta
Dear Mr. Subhomoy Chakraborty,
If you have a solution/information kindly do present the same because i am not a lawyer to have an update the way you people do.
Moreover i am following this thread to update my knowledge.
With profound regards

From India, Chennai

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