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Thread Started by #ritu07

Hi All,

Letter from N R Narayanamurthy on working late.

PLEASE READ & THINK....... Narayana Murthy's views on staying late in the office


To: Dear All,

It's half past 8 in the office but the lights are still on... PCs still running, coffee machines still buzzing... and who's at work? Most of them??? Take a closer look...

All or most specimens are??-something male species of the human race... Look closer... again all or most of them are bachelors...

and why are they sitting late? Working hard? No way!!!

Any guesses???

Let's ask one of them...

Here's what he says... "What's there 2 do after going home... here we get to surf, AC, phone, food, coffee... that is why I am working late...

importantly no bossssssss!! !!!!!!!!!

This is the scene in most research centers and software companies and other off-shore offices. Bachelors "time-passing" during late hours in the office just bcoz they

say they've nothing else to do... Now what r the consequences. .. read on... "Working"(for the record only) late hours soon becomes part of the

institute or company culture. With bosses more than eager to provide support to those "working" late in the form of taxi vouchers, food vouchers and of course good

feedback,(oh, he's a hard worker... goes home only to change..!!). They aren't helping things too... To hell with bosses who don't understand the difference between "sitting" late and "working" late!!!

Very soon, the boss starts expecting all employees to put in extra working hours. So, My dear Bachelors let me tell you, life changes when u get married

and start having a family... office is no longer a priority, family is... and that's when the problem starts... becoz u start having commitments at

home too.

For your boss, the earlier "hardworking" guy suddenly seems to become an "early leaver" even if u leaves an hour after regular time. .. after doing

the same amount of work.

People leaving on time after doing their tasks for the day are labeled as work-shirkers. ..



Girls who thankfully always (its changing nowadays... though) leave on time are labeled as "not up to it". All the while, the bachelors pat their

own backs and carry on "working" not realizing that they r spoiling the work culture at their own place and never realize that they would have to

regret at one point of time.

* So what's the moral of the story?? *

* Very clear, LEAVE ON TIME!!!

* Never put in extra time " *unless really needed *"

* don't stay back un-necessarily and spoil your company work culture

which will in turn cause inconvenience to you and your colleagues.

There are hundred other things to do in the evening...

Learn music...

Learn a foreign language...

try a sport... TT, cricket..... ....

Importantly Get a girl friend or gal friend, take him/her around town...

* and for heaven's sake net cafe rates have dropped to an all-time low

(plus, no fire-walls) and try cooking for a change.

Take a tip from the Smirnoff ad: *"Life's calling, where are you??"*

Please pass on this message to all those colleagues and please do it before leaving time, don't stay back till midnight to forward this!!!

IT'S A TYPICAL INDIAN MENTALITY THAT WORKING FOR LONG HOURS MEANS VERY HARD WORKING & 100% COMMITMENT ETC.

PEOPLE WHO REGULARLY SIT LATE IN THE OFFICE DON'T KNOW TO MANAGE THEIR TIME.



Regards

Ritu07
19th July 2007 From India, Meerut
Hi Ritu, Tell Mr.Narayanamurthy, that If at all he hadn’t worked late during his days, he wouldn’t have had Infosys in his hand now :lol: Roopa
19th July 2007 From India, Bangalore
I totally agree with the author, however in most org cultures, it is hard to justify for anyone who leaves on time that he has put in all his effort upto the org's standard. Bachelors are not the only lat sitters ! Even married people avoid going home on time for the reasons best known to them.
20th July 2007
Hi,
indeed it is very nice information to the employees. Unless you have work please do not stay at work spot, after doing this we are making additional expenses like electricity, food, water, etc.,
Very good information for all
Raj

20th July 2007
Agree with Roopa that its easy to sermonize now. I am told by friends that the Infy culture is to show that we are working- so staying till late is encouraged at various levels.
20th July 2007 From India, Pune
Hey Everybdy,
I Guess we all identify with this topic coz we see many such ppl around....
Hey Roopa....
I guess u are right bt i think Mr. Murthy here is talking bout sitting back late for no good reason....
he might had reason and may be work good and big enough to stay back...
Cheers!
Ritu07
21st July 2007 From India, Meerut
IT IS TRUE. WHILE PLANNING TO SIT LATE ASK YOURSELF THE SIMPLE QUESTION IS IT NECESSARY. WHETHER THE WORK PROPOSED TO BE DONE DURING EXTRA HOURS CANNOT BE POSTPONED TILL TOMORROW. IF IT CANNOT BE POSTPONED TILL TOMORROW, THEN IT WORTH DOING DURING LATE HOURS. IN MY OPINION HABITUAL LATE COMMERS AND LATE GOERS BOTH SPOIL THE WORKING ATMOSPHERE AND SHOULD BE DISCOURGED.
DEEPAK THUKRAL
CHANDIGARH
21st July 2007 From India, Chandigarh
Hi
Writing to you about that letter from Narayan Murthy. I too work in a software company in Hyderabad and when I forwarded it some friends of mine( for it seemed a very interesting read) I was told that it is fake. It seems that the letter has been doing the rounds since 2005.
What are your views on this and from where did you get it?
Thanks
Sriparna

17th August 2007
Today i just got this from one of collegue ..i abosoultely disagree with this ..there are people who are really contributing and giving lot of commitment ..i think contributor is not at all having any work and ..during office hours these kind of people are circulating/fwding the unnecessary mails like this without doing their work ...then definitely the people who are dedicated are overloaded and inturn they need to extend their hours to complete the work ..
Moreover now a days no bachelor is spedning time in office unnecessarily .. and concentrating on the other things like getting gf etc as mentioned by contributor ..i dont think this is the letter from Mr Murthy..
12th January 2013
Hi Ritu,
Nice story, but at the mean time everyone is in hurry to grow fast in carrier and end of day all is point game to impress the bosses. If such types of the practices are there in any organization it is a question mark on leadership because leaders should be aware of the any extra time work if they are not checking it than it is a serious concern because such types un productive hours effects P&L of the account.
Unnecessarily lights are on.
AC are on
Systems are on.
At the mean time staffs also not get sufficient time to relax and others co staffs are also affected by these work free peoples and hence effects the productivity.
Finally the story is interesting and all organization should think on it.
12th January 2013 From Taiwan,
Please be careful of what you share and just because it comes from someone who has excelled in one area it doesn't necessarily mean that they are an expert in everything else.

Here is how I am going to show you and seek your views of the same.

In another continent while deploying Lean Six Sigma (LSS) we found that the managers were sitting at the desk during the morning production hours and checking mails or surfing doing PC stuff and the division was losing productivity. One of our Lean experts went over and asked the employees (with senior executive sponsorship and approval) to remove all the chairs.

The next day the managers only spent the time they needed and then went on to the production floor and executed their jobs as this was an underground mining organization. Thus the productivity then shot up as the root cause was entirely eliminated.

Infosys Situation:

Dear Mr. Murthy,

Congratulations on your achievements in your field and with all humility and respect, here is my suggestion for you to consider....

Asking the employees to leave early is like nailing jellow to the wall. It is not likely to work nor will it sustain well. The managers under the senior executives created this and so the employees (women or men, married or single) either work late or simply stay late. One smart office manager and senior executive got tired of saying this over and over again and expecting different results or change in behavior. He claimed it was insanity and so he came up with a simple solution - just turn off the lights and power with the appropriate breaker switch that keeps the minimum lighting for the building for safety reasons but cuts out the internet connection as well as PC monitors and telephone links.

The results he got were of a breakthrough in the history of the company. People got used to the new surroundings and knew when to start and when to finish. Whenever you provide excess of infrastructural support, there is a tendency to abuse it.

So Mr. Murthy, taking the time to preach to the employees on what criteria to follow to stay at Infosys, can be easily replaced by considering eliminating the root cause for this behavior and getting rid of managers who promote or encourage such behavior of your younger generation.

What you are advising is "Defect Sub Optimization" where you are only trying to fix the problem by band aiding it. Putting a band-aid is only symptomatic and not going to last for more than a few days when it becomes weaker and the process just slides back or gets worse. Get to the root cause of the problem and eliminate it. You have the power to pull the plug and do so without having to place the burden on the employees.

You are a CEO and achieved a lot in your life and can say leave or work for someone else. Imagine if everyone were like you they wouldn't be working for you and so these younger engineers need our mentorship, trust, and guidance that is straight from our wisdom and not mere tough words of quit if someone fails to follow a criteria. Why even give them a chance to fail and why not Poke-Yoke it and avoid the disasters? This would also help them improve their health and longevity.

More importantly, it would also improve the brand of Infosys as the first company to do such things in this millennium and have a high retention with their well performing employees.

Now, take action and then there is no need for a speech!

Dr. Shree
24th July 2013 From United States, Livermore
Open letter – recipe for turning around Infosys and motivating employees

Remove all the 4 digit employee number employees. These represent emplyees who got into Infosys at a time when Infosys was not a recognized company and hence Infosys would have recruited sub standard talent. Unfortunately these people are now in senior positions and spoiling the company. These people don’t even have basic etiquettes and presentation and communication skills.

Stop the culture of appreciating managers who encourage working late and encourage work from home

Penalize employees who work from home

Ensure managers donot call employees after office hours or during lunch break

Organize a poll to identify the managers who are encouraging a culture of staying late and slogging and then systematically remove them

Reward managers who “work smart” rather than managers who “make employees slog”

Donot promote managers just because you need to retain them. Check with their reportees whether that manager is required

Have formalized anonymous feedback for every manager
9th August 2014 From India, Bangalore
Open letter – recipe for turning around Infosys and motivating employees

Remove all the 4 digit employee number employees. These represent emplyees who got into Infosys at a time when Infosys was not a recognized company and hence Infosys would have recruited sub standard talent. Unfortunately these people are now in senior positions and spoiling the company. These people don’t even have basic etiquettes and presentation and communication skills.

Stop the culture of appreciating managers who encourage working late and encourage work from home

Penalize employees who work from home

Ensure managers donot call employees after office hours or during lunch break

Organize a poll to identify the managers who are encouraging a culture of staying late and slogging and then systematically remove them

Reward managers who “work smart” rather than managers who “make employees slog”

Donot promote managers just because you need to retain them. Check with their reportees whether that manager is required

Have formalized anonymous feedback for every manager

Managers stop sending appreciation emails appreciating employees who have worked on weekends and late nights
9th August 2014 From India, Bangalore
hello,
thankyou very much sir for giving us this kind of view from you.. i totally agreewith you not bcz u r the founder of this compasny just bcz u r right about thi speople are working hard just to impresss the boss and they are just forgetting that now only nights are coming the evening are getting loss from ourlife... if i will work in ur company as a employee (if i get a chance) then i will definitely not work for late hours if really not indeed...
thankyou very much again
HEMANT SHARMA
IT ENGINEER
29th July 2015
I think people are missing the points mentioned in the mail. It's not against working, it's against sitting unnecessarily in the office and wasting resources.

@ROOPABNR: It may be a hoax or it can be real, but "Tell Mr.Narayanamurthy" shows a lot of disrespect for a respected man like him. Sorry, but this is not the way to refer to great people who has achieved a lot through their hard work. The mail states "Never put in extra time unless really needed"..so that explains everything I guess...

@VISH_MR82: May be it's not from Narayan Murthy, but before giving a definite statement such as "now a days no bachelor is spedning time in office" we need to think once and shouldn't be judgmental so easily because . I have been with a startup from past 6 years, and during this period, I have come across with people who simply sits in the office because they don't have anything to do at home, or to be precise, a free internet is always good to surf.

Since we run a company, we know how important it is to save the company resources (which includes electricity, food, cabs, bandwidth etc), and we also know that how important it is to finish work when we are committed to clients..there comes the question of staying at office and working late nights. It's always a good practice to come office on time, finish the given work, leave on time and have a healthy peosonal life too...
20th August 2015 From India, Bangalore
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