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Am sorry to hear all the nonsense that happened. Every bad experience is like stepping stone for a shiny future. Take it in a positive note, move forward and try targetting for a better job. Sometimes EGO shows shadows of same face in different angles and in such a case this is where everything ends.
Don't let yourself get depressed or de-motivated. Instead gain confidence, there is much to do, use past as a tool, think about your future and plan accordingly.
Good Luck to you
21st February 2011 From India, Madras
Now I am facing new problem, I am supposed to handover my laptop back to the company,
before that I want somethings to be calrified, I have not signed any document stating that A sales person has to be relived in one week's time after resignation.
and my boss has given me only two days either last firday and monday as options for me to be relieved, so because I dont have much to handover and he promised me that my pay will be considered till the last date of my notice period which is march 10 2011, infact he added that pay will considered from feb 18 till march 18 and all the dues for 48 days will be settled in F&f Settlement, he said he has convinced the Hr guys to do so.
can this happen, whta option I am left with,
can I still serve my notice period,
Cos he is persturing my life that I did not surrended My LAPTOP on the relieving day.as I have download my bank statements, My loan documents , some picture ,He threats me that he will put a case against me as breach of trust.
what I shoud do???
21st February 2011 From India, Mumbai
Tell them you can get this account in their company name. But unless your F& F settlement amount is received ask the company not to disclose your name.
If you need to take revange take it through business. Dont let him take this account. You know what the proposal and commercials is so quote less and provide much better service through your competitor company. This way every one will know you once they lose this big prospect client. There is nothing wrong , you call that person and inform you have resigned from this and you are probably joining this and since you are following them for last 15 months you already have made a good relation.
Give a try , but make it sure they lose this client. Ultimately on PAN India that person will be blamed for losing the order.
Best of luck ,
If you need any help can call me any time. I had too faced similer situations but I made my Boss to get terminatted from Job once I resigned from the organization.
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8th December 2012 From India, Mumbai
You have a proven track with numbers and client , stay focussed in looking for a new role. Firms are always more than keen to hire an high achieving talent in sales and marketing . You score a brownie, there. Its always better to move away from a firm where transparency is nil and leadership corrupted .
Have your dues been released ?
Count yourself lucky that you have only spent 15 months of your career and have the rest of the employment to save. Wish you all the best !
8th December 2012 From India, Mumbai
I Can only suggest you to move on with a positive note. Appreciate you boss for what all good things he done for you and carry those along with you. Professional world is small. People will come accross in future.Things which will help you to grow youself is only positive thinking and a good relation with others.
8th January 2013 From United States, Buffalo
Fighting with the company is like fighting with the wall. My intial suggestion is thibk that out of frustration you have kicked off the company. Take a break for a week atleast . I advice return all the assets and whatever is belonging to the company. Thereon, look out for a fresh job. Please write a very senti and true letter to your boss who has done this mess and quote for positive responce for your antecendent from the next employer.
I know you will be between the job. But now the truth is , you need money and peace . First focus on that.
9th January 2013 From India, Pune
10th January 2013 From India, Delhi
We might face such type of heads in many companies.
firs try to understand the attitude of the person (bosses) and act accordingly.otherwise the same may be repeated in your future also.if we follow this atleast we can save our time which is very precious.
All the very best.
11th January 2013 From India, Hyderabad
15th January 2013 From India, New delhi
Really sorry for that.. but do't get down yourself... show your attitude and you have own talent which your boss don't have.. just go ahead and crack new things... but don't forgot about the incident happened to you... if you get an opportunity get revange but don't always fix your mind set of revange him... anyway all the best !!!
18th January 2013 From India, Chennai
Things like this happens in all offices. It is your conviction about yourself that matters most. You know that you are capable, hardworking, target oriented, and can be successful. If, the management cannot realise your efforts, they lose.
There are umpteen number of companies who need your kind of people and the potential. So don't get depressed, i am sure you would land up in a much better job and higher position that you were now.
The GEETHA says, what ever happened is for good, what is happening is for good, what ever is going to happen is also for good. So, cheer up and move on. Learn from your failures, rather than falling down.
21st January 2013 From India, Bangalore
The world is big and there are lot many opportunities in the market. Plan for a pleasant trip / take break, try and join some other company. Some of our friend is mentioning to approach the competitior and all is not advisable because till they will appreciate and respect you till they get good business & after that you will become cheap in their eyes and they will doubt your ethics.
Be positive - wishing all the best - kamesh
23rd January 2013 From India, Hyderabad
Suppose a company claims that an employee needs to handover and they warn for legal action. First of all dont panic , calmly tell them you are ready to hand over, on condition if company is giving in writing. If employee hand over the things and company take back the things and later dont turn up deny the verbal promise , what as an kicked out employee you are going to do. Once you have answer of this you have the solution.
There is no such Law in the Indian Constitution, as Indian constitution itself has loop holes. If you know how to use the loop holes you are protected. Company can send you a notice on their letter head and they need to according to law. Once you ignore it they will then send you another Notice through a Business Lawyer. you need to make sure the notice you or your family is not receiving. Unless and until you receive or acknowledge the notice the notice does not have any value. The company lawyer then can put an advertisement in the newspaper just in order to prove communication is been made, still legally no one can touch you.
Alternatively they will lodge a FIR in the nearest Police Station .Officer in charge can only ask you questions , they cannot give any judgement or force you to return. If they ask you to appear to police station , calmly sit and tell them you have always agreed and still you are ready to hand over the things but what is the security that company will fulfill their promise. An employee can tell , " I dont trust the employer " let them do the F& F settlement in presence of the Police Officials and once they provide your things you will also hand over the things. Company policy and all these are irrelevant as it applies only inside the office premises.
I do not say relations to be made worse , but What to do with such relation and thinking the same person we may meet in future in some other company. I doubt with same person people will really like to work in future too. Repeating mistakes is just foolish.
If you have downloaded Personal or Loan Documents in the Laptop it is not crime. No one can prove its Cyber Crime, as even in cyber laws there is no such rule which says downloading personal loan document in the official laptop is a pornograpy or stealing of data. If this is company's property then you can also blame they hacked your bank a/c and misused. Let them prove they have not done.
Breach of trust - Verbally made agreement is not valid in the Indian Contract Act ,, it has to be written. Let them prove there was a breach of trust.
If an employer continuously calls an employee's number and threatens or abuse , the employee should go to a psychiatrist ( for proof) and take suggestion from a lawyer and keep the record of the same. with few evidence the employee can lodge a FIR against the employer for mental harassment and believe me this is Punishable.
As mentioned he said he has convinced the Hr guys to do so. ?
In such situation HRs favours company and existing employees not the employees who has been resigned or kicked off, as supporting employee HR also will lose job. In this world during bad times never trust any one apart from yourself.
24th January 2013 From India, Mumbai
Sorry to here all the nonsense of your Boss. I am agreeing with Rupesh, just forget all and search for another job. I am going through the same situation and now with fresh mind I am searching for new job. Meanwhile I read a good book “The monk who sold his Ferrari" and really it’s encourage me lot, may be u can try same. Sometime the people who have no skill, or very little skill they have fear from the people who are really rocking with their skill, so to keep their chair safe they starts low level politics, they convey wrong or manipulated messages to boss. Just review your whole experience and find out where you made mistake, mistake in sense that sometime we keep faith on wrong person, we are too open. Sometime it’s good to keep quite and just observe/ read people around. Whatever mistakes you feel, don’t repeat that mistakes in next organization. Learn from your experience. Keep faith on almighty God and Go Ahead with Confidence.
Wish u all the best for your new opportunities.
25th January 2013 From India, Poona
26th January 2013 From India, Madras
All that I can say is you were the right person at the wrong place and at the wrong time. Move on with with positive insights in you. I am sure with the knowledge and passion that you carry towards your professional life will fetch you better results and also a very nice company to work for
3rd February 2013 From India, Bangalore
When you have done such a great job in this company and definitely you will go higher than your boss.
4th February 2013 From India, Bangalore
This happens when individual ego comes in between the Job profile.
Also effecient subbordinates are sometimes not tollerated by jelous Bosses.
5th February 2013 From India, Kolkata
Keep your cool. Frustration is not going to help anyone. All I would say is, you should have kept your boss informed about the discussion between you and the Ops GM. Always ensure that, all the updates should reach your boss only through you. It should not reach him through anybody else. Eventhough you have put all the efforts, you should have kept your boss in loop.
Now, let me explain you a different scenario. 1) The senior management staff will be meeting eachother on a regular basis, which you may not be aware of. They might meet for so many reasons. During such meetings, they discuss so many things. Imagine, if you were in your boss's position and some other departments head talking about the new sales account in the Senior Management Meeting. You will be totally embarrassed.
2) Even otherwise,if some other department's head opens up regarding the new deal to you. Imagine if you were in your boss's position and you will be embarrassed because it will be seen as if you have not got the updates from your subordinates.
Being an experienced person, your boss could have handled it in a good way. But, as you said, he would have been worried about his own target.
The problem is that inspite of all your efforts, the OPS guy had gained the benefits because he would have projected it to the top management as if it was his achievement. If you had kept your boss in loop, i feel that he would have ensured benefits for himself and you as well.
I understand that you would not have concealed the information from your boss wantedly. But please ensure that this doesn't happen in the future. In todays professional arena, we need to be smart thinkers. We should also ensure that we don't embarrass or scratch anyone (particularly our boss).
Best wishes for a bright future. There is always a sunshine at the end of a shadow. Please don't loose hope.
12th February 2013 From India, Tiruppur
"Move on with a positive note onward your path " and find a better job and also look out for a fresh job, and never overwork and company that rightly values your contributions. A new things is waiting for you
my advise is to look forward your carrier , fighting is not wise legal remedies required evident which may not be possible except statement as you have written.
i think you have proved you have skills, go for another job, don't fell anything and don't fight with your boss, as might be you will meet him after some year and then obviously automatically he will fill their mistakes,,i think as professional world is really small, so be honest yourself and company. :) sometime seniors takes it like a threat to their positions( its a personal experience and Count yourself lucky that you have only spent 15 months of your career and have the rest of the employment to save.
Wish you all the best !
12th February 2013 From India, Noida
16th February 2013 From India, Madras
what you can do is note this incident in your career notebook as a chapter of real lesson and be cautious and aware of such moronic people bcoz corporate is full of such butt-heads and greedy evil minded souls who just does'nt wants the buds to grow .
Don't lose hope, start your battle to conquer the field and to see the flag having your name waving high in your department of work .
Best of luck for a new start
18th February 2013 From India, Calcutta
Do not forget to write the review about the company where you worked. use mouth shot .com or any other, there are many, at least your pain will help for another youngster not to suffer working for such bad bosses and companies.
Do Cry as much as possible because i also do it, it gives much relief.
Never get demotivated, be thankful to your boss that you lot learn't lesson at this early age only, where there is very less damage compare to long run.
Highly recommend to take a week long trip and have some fun . (if interested to come to Bangalore for a week time for time pass do let me know i can share my room with you. contact info : )
write in a peace of paper that "one fine day i will be boss of the person who has cheated me and keep in wallet"
Do not start drinking and smoking as though you lost world war my dear bro,
before you do that do remember that you are spoiling your own health for taking revenge on others.
Do not forget to smile when you meet that manager again. pretend that you were so happy with out him :-)
19th February 2013 From India, Bangalore
#AnonymousAs per my understanding your boss was scared about your progress and achievements. There was a serious threat for his job, i only easy option was to move you out of the organization to be safe and also to close the new proposal.
We find uch people all over in teh industry, the easy way is to either get ahead of them before they notice or move away from them for a better future. Remembering the quote by Winston Churchill " you will never reach your destination if you stop at every dog that barks"
Wishing you all the best for new assignments.
20th February 2013 From India
Please move on with a positive note. I can perfectly understand your emotions but such things are becoming regular and the moment you keep the result away from your efforts, nothing can demotivate you. Be focussed, put efforts , march in the right direction but keep away from the results. Tough to practise but you would see a spectacular difference in you as a person and your life. Keep smiling.
22nd February 2013 From India, Chennai
it is too late to comment on this topic but really very much bad the boss did with u . But i can say be positive and go ahead it is everywhere u will see in your life such things and office politics . But u need to take care and dont trust in any office person committment in future life. Do at your end and your enthusium.
23rd February 2013 From India, Mumbai
26th February 2013 From India, Bangalore
All the advise given by others are correct.Follow the same.
Do not follow unethical things as along you are serving the notice period you are working with that company.
Check if you can take any legal action with respective to the Notice period.
World if full of highly educated, highly qualified , highly respective and reputed idiots,in sales you are not suppose to believe your own shadow it is our foolishness to believe others no matter even if he is our BOSS.
IN LIFE THERE ARE 3 PEOPLE WHO WE SHOULD NEVER FORGET
1) OURSELVES : DO NOT LEAVE YOUR HOPE, THINK POSITIVE.
2) PERSON/PERSONS WHO SUPPORTED : PEOPLE WHO ARE WITH YOU AT ANY POINT OF TIME IN LIFE
3) PERSON/PERSONS WHO BLAME YOU FOR EVERYTHING: NO ONE ID BORN PERFECT.PEOPLE WHO CRITICIZE US WILL GIVE A GREAT SCOPE OF LEARNING IN LIFE.
This lesson which you have learned will help your in lifetime.
Think always positive and go ahead.
All THE BEST.
28th February 2013 From India, Hyderabad