Good conversation. It shows your selfishness about yourself. If no one comes forward then what happen in near future. You have shown one side (position) of coin. Just imagine another side of coin.
From India, New Delhi
From India, New Delhi
The Bribe system is introduced by whom.
Is there any guessing about its introduction.
In Hindu epic one Pareekshit Maharaja was trapped by snake after bribing his associate.
Even for crusifying the Jesus, he was trapped by bribing his disciple.
These are all some example for existance of Bribary in world.
What is its origination.
Initially when I joined I too got frustrated and irritated by listening the bribe part.
But If you can please add two more lines in your daily prayer.
Oh God Please give me power to change the environment
or
Give me tollerance to change myself according to the environment.
What to do. Its the matter of survival.
With warm regards
S. Bhaskar
9099024667
From India, Kumbakonam
1166Is there any guessing about its introduction.
In Hindu epic one Pareekshit Maharaja was trapped by snake after bribing his associate.
Even for crusifying the Jesus, he was trapped by bribing his disciple.
These are all some example for existance of Bribary in world.
What is its origination.
Initially when I joined I too got frustrated and irritated by listening the bribe part.
But If you can please add two more lines in your daily prayer.
Oh God Please give me power to change the environment
or
Give me tollerance to change myself according to the environment.
What to do. Its the matter of survival.
With warm regards
S. Bhaskar
9099024667
From India, Kumbakonam
Yes, these kinda guys are like Dogs..so throw bones to the dogs..better go for it..I assure you that no one can change this attitude..All the best!!
From India, Madras
From India, Madras
Dear Sir,
A separate voluntary organization is necessary to fix such corrupt persons without making it to reveal by whom the complaint was booked. The corrupt persons should be entangled in litigation without revealing by which client has registered complaint. The best way to punish such officers is to "stab at the back". One should not encounter him in face to face. At the same one should put the corrupt persons in utter confusion and anxiety.
Persons with public interest must unite together to encounter corruption.
Chandrasekaran.
From India, Madurai
A separate voluntary organization is necessary to fix such corrupt persons without making it to reveal by whom the complaint was booked. The corrupt persons should be entangled in litigation without revealing by which client has registered complaint. The best way to punish such officers is to "stab at the back". One should not encounter him in face to face. At the same one should put the corrupt persons in utter confusion and anxiety.
Persons with public interest must unite together to encounter corruption.
Chandrasekaran.
From India, Madurai
Dear Nadal, Shekhar, Bhaskar, Joshi, Kanan etc,
I'm afraid I do not entirely subscribe to this method of becoming a 'Part of The Problem' by succumbing to the system.
I understand the nescessity of paying a small / large amount to avoid amount of money to avoid further harrassment but that is like feeding a fire. The problem will not go away! Please do not succumb to temptation. You have to stand up to your rights by putting a little starch in your backbone!!
Firstly, you have to be correct in your conduct of operations. Do everything correctly, as far as possible. There is enough profit even after all compliances. And believe me you, once you look after all your workers the word spreads and your business will grow.
Don't be offensive to the inspector but politely refuse to submit to his illegal demands. Tell him to endorse his remarks for further compliance, if necessary. Correct your procedures and have them recorded. Have the documents inspected by your principal employer as proof. When the inspector visits again, show him the proof of compliance. Arrange to have his visit recorded, either in camera (many devices are now available) or in the presence of a senior representative of the principal employer and a trusted member of your staff. Ask questions and generate discussion. Of course you have to know the minimum standards you are required to maintain. Apprise the inspector of the remarks made by him on his previous visit and the action taken by you on them. If he brings up more points note the same for compliance - AND ensure compliance, by a given date. Invite the inspector again.
Be ready to explain again!! Repeat the entire procedure.
Also be prepared to expect a delayed or 'NO SHOW' by the inspector. If not this time, the next time certainly. Why? Because he realises that you are a fighter and will not give up. That he probably has easier pickings elsewhere! See, a predator only goes to places where prey is available - EASILY!
By succumbing to the bribe syndrome you are not only harming your own business by accepting perpetuation, you are encouraging the concept of bribery. You are becoming a part of the overall problem. You are contributing to getting the country a bad name. Can you, after this, ever complain about the system??
Please remember, "THE WEAK WILL ALWAYS BE OPPRESSED. THE BIG FISH WILL ALWAYS EAT THE SMALL FISH"
Set your house in order. Do the right thing. Accept no nonsense - you don't need to! Your profits will be small initially but they will grow, surely. It takes time, patience and moral courage. If you are actually right you should have no problem standing up for your rights! So, do so. You'll sleep easy and ultimately find success.
I am doing it. And doing it successfully. I'm not Tata or Birla but I'm comfortable and happy!!
Here's wishing you luck and the entire country a better future.
Warm regards and a Happy New Year.
Colonel Jagdeep Gahlot
From India, Delhi
I'm afraid I do not entirely subscribe to this method of becoming a 'Part of The Problem' by succumbing to the system.
I understand the nescessity of paying a small / large amount to avoid amount of money to avoid further harrassment but that is like feeding a fire. The problem will not go away! Please do not succumb to temptation. You have to stand up to your rights by putting a little starch in your backbone!!
Firstly, you have to be correct in your conduct of operations. Do everything correctly, as far as possible. There is enough profit even after all compliances. And believe me you, once you look after all your workers the word spreads and your business will grow.
Don't be offensive to the inspector but politely refuse to submit to his illegal demands. Tell him to endorse his remarks for further compliance, if necessary. Correct your procedures and have them recorded. Have the documents inspected by your principal employer as proof. When the inspector visits again, show him the proof of compliance. Arrange to have his visit recorded, either in camera (many devices are now available) or in the presence of a senior representative of the principal employer and a trusted member of your staff. Ask questions and generate discussion. Of course you have to know the minimum standards you are required to maintain. Apprise the inspector of the remarks made by him on his previous visit and the action taken by you on them. If he brings up more points note the same for compliance - AND ensure compliance, by a given date. Invite the inspector again.
Be ready to explain again!! Repeat the entire procedure.
Also be prepared to expect a delayed or 'NO SHOW' by the inspector. If not this time, the next time certainly. Why? Because he realises that you are a fighter and will not give up. That he probably has easier pickings elsewhere! See, a predator only goes to places where prey is available - EASILY!
By succumbing to the bribe syndrome you are not only harming your own business by accepting perpetuation, you are encouraging the concept of bribery. You are becoming a part of the overall problem. You are contributing to getting the country a bad name. Can you, after this, ever complain about the system??
Please remember, "THE WEAK WILL ALWAYS BE OPPRESSED. THE BIG FISH WILL ALWAYS EAT THE SMALL FISH"
Set your house in order. Do the right thing. Accept no nonsense - you don't need to! Your profits will be small initially but they will grow, surely. It takes time, patience and moral courage. If you are actually right you should have no problem standing up for your rights! So, do so. You'll sleep easy and ultimately find success.
I am doing it. And doing it successfully. I'm not Tata or Birla but I'm comfortable and happy!!
Here's wishing you luck and the entire country a better future.
Warm regards and a Happy New Year.
Colonel Jagdeep Gahlot
From India, Delhi
I am agree with Mr.Kannan. It is not only particular prson system itself is corrupt. So if you will try to complaint it may boomrang on you, that you have failed to make compliance. Especially when we talked about labour laws which are more rigid compare to other laws like Income / Sales Tax etc. Our labour laws are having such & so many provisions that if you will tried to make a compliance it will be difficult to run the business.
So its wise to manage these peoples max. possibles as well try our best to make compliance within the boundry limit of organisation.
From India, Pune
So its wise to manage these peoples max. possibles as well try our best to make compliance within the boundry limit of organisation.
From India, Pune
Dear Mr.Bhaskar & Kannan,
I do agree with what you have suggested. But what about that children who is serving people at the rly station, bus stand.. with tea, bread, etc..
What about that children whose parents are compile to send them on work bcose of poverty due to less wages rate under so many govmnt. scheme like NAREGA, PERDHAN MANTRY GRAM SADAK YOJANA...etc..
We know 80% of india survives in villages/rural areas where you can not imagine the bad condition of labours...they are even not paid mini..wages, late payment, have to work 10-12 hours.
Why no body/official/labour inspector think about them.....???????
If any way i have hurted you then i apologise.
Thanx.& Regards
Ajeet
From India, New Delhi
I do agree with what you have suggested. But what about that children who is serving people at the rly station, bus stand.. with tea, bread, etc..
What about that children whose parents are compile to send them on work bcose of poverty due to less wages rate under so many govmnt. scheme like NAREGA, PERDHAN MANTRY GRAM SADAK YOJANA...etc..
We know 80% of india survives in villages/rural areas where you can not imagine the bad condition of labours...they are even not paid mini..wages, late payment, have to work 10-12 hours.
Why no body/official/labour inspector think about them.....???????
If any way i have hurted you then i apologise.
Thanx.& Regards
Ajeet
From India, New Delhi
Dear Sir,
Well said. comparison with animals, but dog is very faithful compare to Human being...
K Mallikarjuna Raju
General Secretary
Karnataka Karmika Kalyana Prathishtana
From India, Bangalore
Well said. comparison with animals, but dog is very faithful compare to Human being...
K Mallikarjuna Raju
General Secretary
Karnataka Karmika Kalyana Prathishtana
From India, Bangalore
Dear All
Even though we the company paying the labour wages through contractors and subcontractors with their 15% profit, do you think the contractors and s/c are paying the wages fully. If the raise such issue do you think the workers can continue with the s/c or do you think that the workmen can be accepted by other subcontractors.
Please consider restraining of such posting, which may create contraversy between us. We all are here to have healthy discussion and not arguements. Discussion help us to improve our knowledge and the arguement will keep our friends away from us.
With warm regards
S. Bhaskar
From India, Kumbakonam
Even though we the company paying the labour wages through contractors and subcontractors with their 15% profit, do you think the contractors and s/c are paying the wages fully. If the raise such issue do you think the workers can continue with the s/c or do you think that the workmen can be accepted by other subcontractors.
Please consider restraining of such posting, which may create contraversy between us. We all are here to have healthy discussion and not arguements. Discussion help us to improve our knowledge and the arguement will keep our friends away from us.
With warm regards
S. Bhaskar
From India, Kumbakonam
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