Hi,
am deepak and currently am facing a problem due to which my career is getting spoilt .
i joined my cuurent company through the reference of the vp as he was my family friend , i dint perform well in the interview but still they gave me job and am great full to that .after that i have been working there from past 1.8 yr and i have given my best and performed more than the expectation of the manger ,manager has even sent an appreciation mail telling that deepak is performing very well good keep it up .
i joined the company as a software engineer and was offered salary of 11000 which was the least in the team but it was during ressesetion and i was k with it initially but later after 1.8yr they gave the appraisal of 20 percent which increased my Sal by 2000 .but my manager had promised me that he will recommend 100% as i am performing well and he knows my ctc is low .so wen i asked manger abt the appraisal he said he recommended 100% per but the senior manager and the management have given this much and he is helpless .
At that point i felt its not professional good if i approach the vp for salary hike so i started searching for job and in a week i got a offer of 4.2 ctc but location was pune and iam staying in bangalore with family and am the only son so i dint wanted to leave them ,i said my manger that i have an offer of so much so kindly can he talk regarding this with the senior manager so the manger said me that he will try and he also suggested me that i can try for other offers in Bangalore .
i dint get any update from him than i got an offer from a very good mnc in Bangalore with the ctc of 3.4 but there i had to join within 15 days. i accepted the offer bcoz many people were relieved from my current company within a week r 15 days and according to the company policy i have to inform within 40 days and if i want to go within 40 days than i have to pay the 40 days salary so i thought i can get it done bcoz the company from where i got offer said me that they can buy the notice period .
so on the day of resigning t i thought i would be my duty that i should inform the vp before putting the papers as it was through him i joined the company so i tired to get his appointment but due to my bad luck he had gone abroad and would come back after a week so since i had less time as per the procedure i put the papers.
but than my manger started telling me that its not posiible to releve me and he said my performance was not good and am lieing and taking leaves but i still had many el's left so he was wrong than i went and spoke to the seniour manager he said he will releve me wen my manger wants so i went to vp who had returened back wen i entered his cabin he was very angry as i had resined without informing him he just said me that u have resined without asking me so now its in your manager hand ,so i went to manger and requested him very much i literealy begged him after that after 2 days manager agreed and he said me that he will relieve me on the requested date as senior manger has also agreed for it so i was very happy but afternoon senior manger called me and said that they wont relive me until 2 months and this decision is come from vp he has rejected to relieve me now my manger and Senior manger are helpless. wen i tired to contact the vp he said he doesn't want to meet me .
Now i have decide to not to come to the company after my requested date bcoz if i come than i wont be an employee but will be a slave.
i called and asked the company from where i have got offer they said relieving letter is a must .
document i have with me are
(1) all the educational certificates.
(2) Resignation letter copy.
(3) and for experience i have a copy of my offer and appointment letter and latest appraisal letter which shows that i am working here for 1.8yr.
(4)complete 1.8yr bank statement which shows that am getting salary from company account from past 1.8yr.
(5) valid passport,pan card ,address proof.
(6) i have not signed any bond or not taken any assets from the company due to which they can take any legal action against me
document which i don't have are
(1) Relieving letter
(2) Experience letter .
can the company take me with these documents are not what should i do , please send me your valuable suggestions
Thanks & Regards
Deepak
From India, Bangalore
am deepak and currently am facing a problem due to which my career is getting spoilt .
i joined my cuurent company through the reference of the vp as he was my family friend , i dint perform well in the interview but still they gave me job and am great full to that .after that i have been working there from past 1.8 yr and i have given my best and performed more than the expectation of the manger ,manager has even sent an appreciation mail telling that deepak is performing very well good keep it up .
i joined the company as a software engineer and was offered salary of 11000 which was the least in the team but it was during ressesetion and i was k with it initially but later after 1.8yr they gave the appraisal of 20 percent which increased my Sal by 2000 .but my manager had promised me that he will recommend 100% as i am performing well and he knows my ctc is low .so wen i asked manger abt the appraisal he said he recommended 100% per but the senior manager and the management have given this much and he is helpless .
At that point i felt its not professional good if i approach the vp for salary hike so i started searching for job and in a week i got a offer of 4.2 ctc but location was pune and iam staying in bangalore with family and am the only son so i dint wanted to leave them ,i said my manger that i have an offer of so much so kindly can he talk regarding this with the senior manager so the manger said me that he will try and he also suggested me that i can try for other offers in Bangalore .
i dint get any update from him than i got an offer from a very good mnc in Bangalore with the ctc of 3.4 but there i had to join within 15 days. i accepted the offer bcoz many people were relieved from my current company within a week r 15 days and according to the company policy i have to inform within 40 days and if i want to go within 40 days than i have to pay the 40 days salary so i thought i can get it done bcoz the company from where i got offer said me that they can buy the notice period .
so on the day of resigning t i thought i would be my duty that i should inform the vp before putting the papers as it was through him i joined the company so i tired to get his appointment but due to my bad luck he had gone abroad and would come back after a week so since i had less time as per the procedure i put the papers.
but than my manger started telling me that its not posiible to releve me and he said my performance was not good and am lieing and taking leaves but i still had many el's left so he was wrong than i went and spoke to the seniour manager he said he will releve me wen my manger wants so i went to vp who had returened back wen i entered his cabin he was very angry as i had resined without informing him he just said me that u have resined without asking me so now its in your manager hand ,so i went to manger and requested him very much i literealy begged him after that after 2 days manager agreed and he said me that he will relieve me on the requested date as senior manger has also agreed for it so i was very happy but afternoon senior manger called me and said that they wont relive me until 2 months and this decision is come from vp he has rejected to relieve me now my manger and Senior manger are helpless. wen i tired to contact the vp he said he doesn't want to meet me .
Now i have decide to not to come to the company after my requested date bcoz if i come than i wont be an employee but will be a slave.
i called and asked the company from where i have got offer they said relieving letter is a must .
document i have with me are
(1) all the educational certificates.
(2) Resignation letter copy.
(3) and for experience i have a copy of my offer and appointment letter and latest appraisal letter which shows that i am working here for 1.8yr.
(4)complete 1.8yr bank statement which shows that am getting salary from company account from past 1.8yr.
(5) valid passport,pan card ,address proof.
(6) i have not signed any bond or not taken any assets from the company due to which they can take any legal action against me
document which i don't have are
(1) Relieving letter
(2) Experience letter .
can the company take me with these documents are not what should i do , please send me your valuable suggestions
Thanks & Regards
Deepak
From India, Bangalore
Whatever the matter concerned, one should get the relieving order from the serviced company on exit. You meet your ex employer’s hr department and do the needful to get the relieving order.
From India, Madras
63From India, Madras
Sir,
thanks for ur feedback but we dnt have any specific hr dept in my company its under vp so am not able to get it as i have already stated the documents i have with me can the new company take me those documents.
Thanks u
From India, Bangalore
thanks for ur feedback but we dnt have any specific hr dept in my company its under vp so am not able to get it as i have already stated the documents i have with me can the new company take me those documents.
Thanks u
From India, Bangalore
Hello Deepu,
I truly understand your situation but i suggest you to convince your VP directly through whom u entered in this company.make a plan to convince him every two days or after good amount of time go and try to have words with him confidently,no person really take a harsh decision.I understand initially they reacted very bad but you can try to convince them or draft a confident mail.I am sure it will take 1 week time but surely u can expect result.All the Best
From India, Pune
I truly understand your situation but i suggest you to convince your VP directly through whom u entered in this company.make a plan to convince him every two days or after good amount of time go and try to have words with him confidently,no person really take a harsh decision.I understand initially they reacted very bad but you can try to convince them or draft a confident mail.I am sure it will take 1 week time but surely u can expect result.All the Best
From India, Pune
let me talk to u about breaking few rules of HR and ethics which should not be followed at times. If an organization is not giving you relieving letter, does it makes any difference? Dont u have your experience to prove urself in an interview. You need a piece of paper to prove that u had experience. ????????
wake up, companies dont hire on the basis of papers but on personality and attitude. be honest with urself, that's it dude and if you so much are in need of a relieving letter, make it by yourself. Its simple.
From India, Mumbai
wake up, companies dont hire on the basis of papers but on personality and attitude. be honest with urself, that's it dude and if you so much are in need of a relieving letter, make it by yourself. Its simple.
From India, Mumbai
papers does not matter , if u know working , u have salary slip have appointment letter enough.
Join other company , dont have to panic .
If you are performer then these documents does not matter.
Even HR knows all does not provide papers. If you dont have reliving letter , go and meet a doctor take a medical leave and sit at home . No company will pay you free .
Just join another company. Dont have to be so much professional if the company employee does not value you.
And from next time be aware of organizational politics . If resign send a mail to the HR and MD too and mark a BCC to your personal mail id for future reference.
From your description I am sure you have not kept the things in record , that why your managers proved that you are non performer etc.
All the best for future
From India, Mumbai
Join other company , dont have to panic .
If you are performer then these documents does not matter.
Even HR knows all does not provide papers. If you dont have reliving letter , go and meet a doctor take a medical leave and sit at home . No company will pay you free .
Just join another company. Dont have to be so much professional if the company employee does not value you.
And from next time be aware of organizational politics . If resign send a mail to the HR and MD too and mark a BCC to your personal mail id for future reference.
From your description I am sure you have not kept the things in record , that why your managers proved that you are non performer etc.
All the best for future
From India, Mumbai
Hi Deepak,
most of the un ethical people will try to screw the happiness of the out going employee as they are unable to satisfy the employee when he is with them and they are unable to digest the fact of his growth. After looking in to your episode these people are also from the same book and the senior management like MD or President should arrest this type of politics otherwise the company image goes to dogs.
Coming to your personal front I have a suggestion, after having a resignation letter submitted and being acknowledged ( if not try to get an acknowledgement from your manager as he don't have any issue with that), go to the new employer and ask them to allow if not you can tell them that you will sign a paper that if any legal issues arises the company don't have any liability and with this most of the companies are accepting because some of the small companies even they don't have appointment letters / pay slips etc hence this may work out. If they ask for the proforma I can send it to you so that you can show it to them and complete the process ( if both sides are ok with that ).
For any further information pl., send your message to
Thanks and regards - kamesh
From India, Hyderabad
most of the un ethical people will try to screw the happiness of the out going employee as they are unable to satisfy the employee when he is with them and they are unable to digest the fact of his growth. After looking in to your episode these people are also from the same book and the senior management like MD or President should arrest this type of politics otherwise the company image goes to dogs.
Coming to your personal front I have a suggestion, after having a resignation letter submitted and being acknowledged ( if not try to get an acknowledgement from your manager as he don't have any issue with that), go to the new employer and ask them to allow if not you can tell them that you will sign a paper that if any legal issues arises the company don't have any liability and with this most of the companies are accepting because some of the small companies even they don't have appointment letters / pay slips etc hence this may work out. If they ask for the proforma I can send it to you so that you can show it to them and complete the process ( if both sides are ok with that ).
For any further information pl., send your message to
Thanks and regards - kamesh
From India, Hyderabad
ya amit thanks for your valueble feed back i will try to talk to the vp today and if doesn't work than will go to the mangement as in my offer letter its mentioned as notice period is 30 days and i can buy it if i want and if manager agrees.
Thanks u
From India, Bangalore
Thanks u
From India, Bangalore
ya thanks and i have replied the new company that am ready to join the company without offer letter and i have the knowldge which they are not able to take from me ,let me c what they will reply me.
Thanks & Regards
Deepak
From India, Bangalore
Thanks & Regards
Deepak
From India, Bangalore
ya thanks and i have replied the new company that am ready to join the company without offer letter and i have the knowldge which they are not able to take from me ,let me c what they will reply me.
ya your correct i have not maintained the appreciation mail and most of the conversations were verbal and through mails so i dnt have any records but in my offer letter is mentioned as 30 days so i hope they cant hold me more than .
Thanks & Regards
Deepak
From India, Bangalore
ya your correct i have not maintained the appreciation mail and most of the conversations were verbal and through mails so i dnt have any records but in my offer letter is mentioned as 30 days so i hope they cant hold me more than .
Thanks & Regards
Deepak
From India, Bangalore
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