Dear Vishal,
You have already received several cotradictions. But my focus is somewhat different. Challenge seeking is an unhealthy predisposition. Instead, cultivate:-
1.Maturity,
2.Wit,
3.Humour,
4.Creative intelligence and
5. Diffusability(abilty to diffuse tension, within and without).
Second, birds of same feather flock together. You have boredom susceptible friends too. Join them who are contradicting you here.
Regards,
Jogeshwar
From India, Delhi
174You have already received several cotradictions. But my focus is somewhat different. Challenge seeking is an unhealthy predisposition. Instead, cultivate:-
1.Maturity,
2.Wit,
3.Humour,
4.Creative intelligence and
5. Diffusability(abilty to diffuse tension, within and without).
Second, birds of same feather flock together. You have boredom susceptible friends too. Join them who are contradicting you here.
Regards,
Jogeshwar
From India, Delhi
hey all
hi thesysthink... thnk u.... i guess vishal shd chk out the humor section...ther r some really fun stuff by HR ppl :D
hey soumya.....its ok...even i cldnt stop being emotional.... :wink:
n soumya and thesysthink..lets settle...HR ppl are like parents....rather guardians. :)
hey vishal, HR accd to me is the best amongst all...compare it with..finance....
thought...mktg seems glamorous....its real hard work at the start(or so ive heard... n its vast)
IT....i like too...but thn again ..it has its own downfalls.
so unless u get to be the boss....HR is pretty good..wtsay?
From India, Mumbai
hi thesysthink... thnk u.... i guess vishal shd chk out the humor section...ther r some really fun stuff by HR ppl :D
hey soumya.....its ok...even i cldnt stop being emotional.... :wink:
n soumya and thesysthink..lets settle...HR ppl are like parents....rather guardians. :)
hey vishal, HR accd to me is the best amongst all...compare it with..finance....
thought...mktg seems glamorous....its real hard work at the start(or so ive heard... n its vast)
IT....i like too...but thn again ..it has its own downfalls.
so unless u get to be the boss....HR is pretty good..wtsay?
From India, Mumbai
sunaina.... that is the problem i am the boss....so i hav all the worries in d world... regards vishal
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
:D Dear Sunayna,
Thank you .. Even I posted a HumoR Article today .. (till now I was just a silent visitor in HumoR) .. :D !
And Dear Soumya .. that was just a joke (I really understand how it feels when we try to do something good .. and treated always as second Citizen in organization .. ) But I always try to start any post with a smiling face. Yes, Sunayna - We are Guardian Angels .. :twisted: :shock: :? :D
Marketing is not at all Glamourous .. this I heard from my good friends who are marketers now .. Yes, one aspect is there that I wish to point out - HR is often underpaid than their counterparts ..
Sunayna .. what about Pic HumoR's .. like this one ..
Regards,
thesysthink
From India, Pune
Thank you .. Even I posted a HumoR Article today .. (till now I was just a silent visitor in HumoR) .. :D !
And Dear Soumya .. that was just a joke (I really understand how it feels when we try to do something good .. and treated always as second Citizen in organization .. ) But I always try to start any post with a smiling face. Yes, Sunayna - We are Guardian Angels .. :twisted: :shock: :? :D
Marketing is not at all Glamourous .. this I heard from my good friends who are marketers now .. Yes, one aspect is there that I wish to point out - HR is often underpaid than their counterparts ..
Sunayna .. what about Pic HumoR's .. like this one ..
Regards,
thesysthink
From India, Pune
ya thesysthink..tht is wt i meant...mktg looks glamorous from outside...but isnt reallly
welll....cheers...n welcome to the active HumoR section.. we are looking fwd for more articles and fun stuff
i think pic msgs are real fun..well a picture is worth a thousand words...but it takes a lot of time to upload :roll: ...lol...so i stay away from thm....
n vishal...do tell us ur worries..ther are a lot of ppl who will help
From India, Mumbai
welll....cheers...n welcome to the active HumoR section.. we are looking fwd for more articles and fun stuff
i think pic msgs are real fun..well a picture is worth a thousand words...but it takes a lot of time to upload :roll: ...lol...so i stay away from thm....
n vishal...do tell us ur worries..ther are a lot of ppl who will help
From India, Mumbai
Vishal,
Those individuals who work in the HR area focus on human issues as they confront the interface between human beings and elements of a company. How could that be boring? We confront as many opportunities as we do humans; we're all different, aren't we?
I often Counsel new MBA candidates on areas of opportunity.
I have maintained for the last three years or so that the pursuit of HR--especially in areas of both Organizational Development, and Organizational Behavior (or Behaviour, if you choose the alternate spelling)--offer a true, longer-term, stable and focused future with a fairly well-defined career pathway.
Within the next 10 to 15 year horizon, any type of HR position in which there is to be a moderated or modulated interaction between humans and companies, humans and company departments, or humans and other humans, offers great opportunity.
Burnout? In Organizational Behavior, we study a variety of methods to avoid/reverse burnout, and not only Counsel others in those methods, but utilize them ourselves!
One caveat I would offer is this; anyone active in HR areas must be what we used to call a "people person"...an individual who appreciates and embraces the human elements of interaction.
To have someone in an HR position that does not immediately appreciate human foibles, instantly and correctly assess human opportunity, and consummately enjoy human interaction demonstrates poor positional placement on the part of the employer.
As to being boring, I don't see myself as boring at all. Others don't call me boring. Friends don't call me boring. Consults don't call me boring, and they pay my fees--generally on time. I know a host of HR people, and I don't think I've ever thought of them as boring.
Hm. I'll take a poll of my friends and see if anyone thinks I'm boring. I'm sure that will be a truly scientific poll. I'll get back to you and let you know the result. Or perhaps I should publish it as a study, and sell the results.
All kidding aside, no, I vote that HR people are not boring.
Alan Guinn, Managing Director (not a boring MD)
The Guinn Consultancy Group, Inc. (not a boring company)
From United States, Bluff City
Those individuals who work in the HR area focus on human issues as they confront the interface between human beings and elements of a company. How could that be boring? We confront as many opportunities as we do humans; we're all different, aren't we?
I often Counsel new MBA candidates on areas of opportunity.
I have maintained for the last three years or so that the pursuit of HR--especially in areas of both Organizational Development, and Organizational Behavior (or Behaviour, if you choose the alternate spelling)--offer a true, longer-term, stable and focused future with a fairly well-defined career pathway.
Within the next 10 to 15 year horizon, any type of HR position in which there is to be a moderated or modulated interaction between humans and companies, humans and company departments, or humans and other humans, offers great opportunity.
Burnout? In Organizational Behavior, we study a variety of methods to avoid/reverse burnout, and not only Counsel others in those methods, but utilize them ourselves!
One caveat I would offer is this; anyone active in HR areas must be what we used to call a "people person"...an individual who appreciates and embraces the human elements of interaction.
To have someone in an HR position that does not immediately appreciate human foibles, instantly and correctly assess human opportunity, and consummately enjoy human interaction demonstrates poor positional placement on the part of the employer.
As to being boring, I don't see myself as boring at all. Others don't call me boring. Friends don't call me boring. Consults don't call me boring, and they pay my fees--generally on time. I know a host of HR people, and I don't think I've ever thought of them as boring.
Hm. I'll take a poll of my friends and see if anyone thinks I'm boring. I'm sure that will be a truly scientific poll. I'll get back to you and let you know the result. Or perhaps I should publish it as a study, and sell the results.
All kidding aside, no, I vote that HR people are not boring.
Alan Guinn, Managing Director (not a boring MD)
The Guinn Consultancy Group, Inc. (not a boring company)
From United States, Bluff City
:D Dear Alan,
Well Said .. I think HR is the only perceivable arena of Management in which we (HR) Professionals are expected to show respect towards Human dignity, understand and respect the Individual differences, have some element of Ethical perspectives, expected to have some sense of Justice and 'On the Records' these are parts of our KRA .. its just my opinion.
I do a lot of Grievance counselling .. and its really satisfying to hear from people that alright .. this fellow is unable to solve my problems as of now, at least he's trying to share my burden. It pays for itself .. If I'm boring who will care ..
Also .. If you are HR Person, your behaviour will be marked even outside the Organization and will be taken note of .. this may not be true for a Finance guy or an Engineer ..
:D I was just wondering .. Can we get any such Lab in any other profession where we learn so much about Human Behaviour - the most unpredictable facet of life !! (Alan, do you use T-Groups and Grid OD's?)
Regards,
Thesysthink
From India, Pune
Well Said .. I think HR is the only perceivable arena of Management in which we (HR) Professionals are expected to show respect towards Human dignity, understand and respect the Individual differences, have some element of Ethical perspectives, expected to have some sense of Justice and 'On the Records' these are parts of our KRA .. its just my opinion.
I do a lot of Grievance counselling .. and its really satisfying to hear from people that alright .. this fellow is unable to solve my problems as of now, at least he's trying to share my burden. It pays for itself .. If I'm boring who will care ..
Also .. If you are HR Person, your behaviour will be marked even outside the Organization and will be taken note of .. this may not be true for a Finance guy or an Engineer ..
:D I was just wondering .. Can we get any such Lab in any other profession where we learn so much about Human Behaviour - the most unpredictable facet of life !! (Alan, do you use T-Groups and Grid OD's?)
Regards,
Thesysthink
From India, Pune
dear alan, please get back to me with the results....i am very happy that people are giving their point of view... on the topic...thanx to all the participants of the discussion regards vishal
From India, Mumbai
From India, Mumbai
Hi Vishal,
This is not true. Burningout has nothing to do with the HR function. Neither is the generalisation that people in HR are boring.
Interestingly the amount if Networking HR does these days is higher than or close to that done by Sales.
Difference - Sales does it with a vested interested HR does it to share and learn. We need to bring in a culture of networking aggressively and for a reason, keeping relationships and deriving value from the other while giving value as well.
For example - I have written this mail to you. You have the opportunity to find out what I do and for me to know what you do. There could be a job opportunity waiting for us on either end. There coud be a piece of information which we need which is urgently required etc or there could be something as simple as friendship or a long term association.
Being boring is down to the individual.
HR activities mundane - there are issues here. 60% of HR time goes in HR Admin activities. This needs to stop. For this HR has to improve processes and take aid of software which allows them to then focus on strategic activities more.
Keep in touch and rejuvinate yourself by seeing if there is a better approach. The greatest people are those who adapt with changing environment and tackle it likewise.
From India, Bangalore
This is not true. Burningout has nothing to do with the HR function. Neither is the generalisation that people in HR are boring.
Interestingly the amount if Networking HR does these days is higher than or close to that done by Sales.
Difference - Sales does it with a vested interested HR does it to share and learn. We need to bring in a culture of networking aggressively and for a reason, keeping relationships and deriving value from the other while giving value as well.
For example - I have written this mail to you. You have the opportunity to find out what I do and for me to know what you do. There could be a job opportunity waiting for us on either end. There coud be a piece of information which we need which is urgently required etc or there could be something as simple as friendship or a long term association.
Being boring is down to the individual.
HR activities mundane - there are issues here. 60% of HR time goes in HR Admin activities. This needs to stop. For this HR has to improve processes and take aid of software which allows them to then focus on strategic activities more.
Keep in touch and rejuvinate yourself by seeing if there is a better approach. The greatest people are those who adapt with changing environment and tackle it likewise.
From India, Bangalore
Dear Friends,
Namaskar.
I am unable to find consistency when Vishal says that there is no challenge in his life on the other he says "that is the problem i am the boss....so i hav all the worries in d world"
However, boredom susceptibility is one of the 4 components of Sensation seeking personality. The other three are adventure seeking, disinhibition and experience seeking. Boredom susceptibilty may also be due to brain wave anomaly- predominantly desynchronised theta (4 to 8 cycles per second).
regards,
jogeshwar
From India, Delhi
Namaskar.
I am unable to find consistency when Vishal says that there is no challenge in his life on the other he says "that is the problem i am the boss....so i hav all the worries in d world"
However, boredom susceptibility is one of the 4 components of Sensation seeking personality. The other three are adventure seeking, disinhibition and experience seeking. Boredom susceptibilty may also be due to brain wave anomaly- predominantly desynchronised theta (4 to 8 cycles per second).
regards,
jogeshwar
From India, Delhi
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