Handled Almost Entire Gamut Of Hr/ir.
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HR should be smart between employees and employer!!!:idea:
15th May 2009 From India, Madurai
As per my openion, at least u can do is to have satisfaction dat u did ur hr job honestly n wholeheartedly. Results are not always in our favors. But, i m sure, ur hr experience would give u fruits though later.
So,no need to think of changing career. Instead, work to get new job. And enjoy.....:-P
15th May 2009 From India, Vadodara
As per me what happened with you is helpless condition.U can only help with urself. U told that u lost job and then rejoined for another company for a less salary, you introduced many more things there, everything was ok till that. But wat happened next will happens to all under different situations. I am finding many posts on the topics like changing the attitude of seniors, bosses etc. But u r confident enough, u have a capacity to analyse the situation, then why r u giving up urself!!!?. After loosing a job, in a bad market, u got a job and tried to do ur best to ur job, then why this confusion?
Ask the above questions to urself, u will come back definately with a greater force.
And I'm not commenting on the senior employees or the management of ur previous company. Because if u r committed, u succeed. Take rest for few days, start rocking again, dont leave HR line for an incident like this.
Giving up once in life costs a lot, if I am right ! ! !
15th May 2009 From India, Bangalore
"sabse jada pathar usi ped ko lagte hai jisme sabse jada meethe fal hote hain"
So 4rm my pt of view u hav done a right thing but make a little mistake, u r directly going to MD & VP den u hav the sufficient proofs wid u.
mere sath bhi kuch aisa hi hua tha but wat i have done ki i directly go to the Regional head of delhi/NCR. Maine apne kuch khas frnds sse baat ki thi aur unhe kaha tha ki tumhe sab kuch Mr. RM ko batana hain personally and ur name will not be leak out but the condition is dat u hav to tell the truth.
And den a meeting is arranged 50% employees told the truth bcoz dere names r not 2 be disclosed. RM & HR head meet personally 2 all employees in conference room 1 by 1.
and den this person is fired frm d company. and u know wat our company is 1 of the biggest mnc in the world.
and me bcum the star of d company aur mere case mein maine paiso ki hera feri roki thi. Company ko lakho rupo ke chune se bachaya tha.
is baat ko 1saal ho gaya hai aur aaj bhi Mr RM muje naam se jante hain jab ki muje company chode 8 months ho chuke hain.
now i think u understand ur mistake. Well u don't worry u'll definately done a gud job. Atleast tumne himmat to jutai. u hav a gud expirence and definately u will get a gud job.
For any other query u can mail me at (note after harpreet it's _ is dere)
and u mail me ur cv also
15th May 2009 From India, New Delhi
All this is just a learning. Now you know that from next time onwards:
a) you will not opt to work for a management that has no intentions of valuing your initiaveness
b) you will not report of any problem before having a documented proof of the same - eg. like email.
Please know that such info abt company being bad and not a nice place to work is being done by most company employees. They fear they will lose their job or the new comer will get more importance - and they may lose their value.
Forget abt the past - plan for ur future.
Search for a better job - it is tough, but keep looking. Never letgo faith on urself.
Suggest you show the work here in this second company as a consultign job - that you took as a part time assignment
15th May 2009 From India, Madras
My question is i dnt have proof bec they always so how can i arrange a documental proof?? and those new employee kept silent bec they dnt want tl loose there job .In our comapny i m next to vp so i can report to vp only and vp tell everyrhing to MD and if MD called each employee in a cabin and if he asked the fact i think they will tell the fact but my MD is stupiud person he called everyemployee in common meeting so the new employee can afraid in speaking the truth.
i hope u all got my point i know i can get a much better job i m confident abt that but this situation happens first time with me i have faced big big problem in my small career of 6 year and before this i have worked in corporates only so always mgt decide which is right but not in this company.
16th May 2009 From India, Delhi
ARe you trying to convince yourself that you haev done the perfect thing, but your management is stupid?
Please understand that each and every things that has happened to you has been a great learning for you, may be a small lesson just on time, so that you escape from a major problem in future.
You have anyways moved out of that job, and even if we tell you that you were right or your MD is stupid - your confidence abt urself remains unshaken right?
So dont keep thinking abt what happened, because you cannot go back and see what best can be done to have avoided that issue. I cannot say if what u have done is wrong - becos, in a few cases, sometimes you have the power and authority to explain the management abt the negative talk - but sometimes, esp in owner driven companies - even a new VP may not have the authority as much as a sweeper who has been working closely with the MDs family for the last 15 - 20 yrs.
So - again, its just a learning. Stop thinking or demanding to know if u were right or wrong. In all senses, what you did literally was "correct" - but pls remember there needs to be some proof. Need not be that everything documented is the only proof - it can be even a mere witness outside the company, or witin the company. But the statement must be strong.
Such issues must be handled only after u have gained good trust amongst your Senior Management.
Know your environment and act accordingly.
16th May 2009 From India, Madras
i read ur story, my opeinon is that u do a major mistak by giving the name of the employees who are long associate with company? because the company mgmt faith on those....... and u are new......rest 4 employees are also new..... my self is totly agree with mr harpreet singh. i told my story about 16 year back when i was working with a mnc, on of our boss joins us and he give the false digree of mba (from reputed univercity) and the same boss was beloved of our head of deptt (VP - HR). from the same insitute one of my freiend pass out same yr which he mentioned in his records ( all the personal file was kept with me) so same matter i put to our VP- HR with the record but action was taken on me becouse i camplent about my boss, but some how i continous the job left after 4 yrs ( during this period i was very much famous becase i start T & D and all the mgmt was very happy and our productivity was incresed 125%) during mu tuner with this company same VP - HR left the job and new one join mean while he was also pamotted to DGM. when i resigned the same company my new VP was surprised (becase i also got parmotted to Jr Manager ) on my resignation, and get mu psl file and see that i was onec warned than he call me now about that, i told whole the story becuse I resigned, he relived me and then he take himself enquir about the same and he got truth which i told him....... he sack him. and i was the dobble hero( even i was left the org.) as on date left last 14 years all the mgmt know me well and also welcome me to come back but at present i working again in mnc as corporate head HR
telling the my story to u my motto is that u do the bulender misket by telling the name, may be they are also beloved of the mgmt so try to find the fact & take some employees in confidance than complet.
my best wishes to u and get new job earliy DON'T REPATE THE SAME ......
16th May 2009 From India, Delhi
THANKS i never do it again that 110% sure but dnt u think mgt should know abt those empl jo" jis thali me kathe hai usme ched karte hai " .I did the same thing i never disclose there name but my md wont belive until he want the name he told me he keep my name secret that you told me the fact .but i was shocked when he called up a common meeting and tell everyone that our hr gives us your name that x is saying wrong abt company y si saying false statement ,that time all pulled up there leg sir we dnt say anything and i dnt have any proof bec new employee dnt want to let there job gone so they kept silent and i when i joined they do the same with me but they want to belive productive staff like sales employee they cant through then out bec right now in recession market is very bad and they are having gud projects in hand but they want to close the matter so they tell me to resign that hurt me a lot tttttttttt i cried for 2 days not bec i loose my job but mgt ne meri nahi suni they see there profit.
In your case you have documental proof but how can we record what they r saying wrong abt company?
16th May 2009 From India, Delhi
nothing heppend..... what so ever is goen never come back, i advice to plzzzzzzz do not think ur self " ke chotta baccha" pls see a head u have bright future " ap ke mehnat safal hoge or ap ke achee nokri mil jaye gi, kynki ap ne jo kam 4 mahine me kiya he wo kam ab kam ayega"
dear sarmilla, i give u best wishes to get new job, and be happy, can i ad ur name in my friends list? my mobile no. is 09868178047
18th May 2009 From India, Delhi