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Thread Started by #mallet

i read this story yesterday on Academy Learning Management and felt a lot implies to me....truly an exceptional one.....

It is a good story for all of us to hear relating to careers and social life........ ....very true...

Once upon a time a Washerman was bringing up two donkeys.

Let us say Donkey-A and Donkey-B.

Donkey-A felt it was very energetic and could do better than the other. It always tried to pull the washerman's attraction over it by taking more load and walking fast in front of him.

Innocent Donkey-B is normal, so it will walk normal, irrespective of the washerman's presence. After a period of time, Washerman started pressurizing Donkey-B to be like Donkey-A. But Donkey-B unable to walk fast, got continuous punishment from washerman. It was crying and told personally to Donkey-A "Dear friend, only we two are here, why to compete with each other....we can carry equal load at normal speed ".

That made Donkey-A all the more energetic and next day it told to washerman that it can carry more load and even it can run fast also.

Obviously happier washerman looked at Donkey-B.., his BP raised and he started kicking Donkey-B. Next day with smile, Donkey-A carried more load and started running fast. But it was breathtaking for Donkey-B and it couldn't act that way....But the washerman was frustrated, so he harassed Donkey-B terribly, and finally it fell down hopelessly.

Then Donkey-A felt itself as a supremo and happily started carrying more load with great speed. But now the Load of the Donkey-B is also being carried by Donkey-A., and still it has to run fast. For some period it did, finally due to fatigue it got tired and started feeling the pain. But washerman expected more from Donkey-A. It also tried best, but couldn't cope up with his owners demand. The Washerman got angry with Donkey-A also and started harassing to take more load... Donkey-A was crying for long time and then tried its best... But it couldn't meet the owner's satisfaction. Finally the day came when due to frustration the washerman killed Donkey-A and went for searching some other Donkeys.

Its an endless story....... ..

But the moral of the Story in Corporate and Social life is......, "Think all colleagues are same and that everyone is capable... Always share the Load equally..... Don't ever act smart in front of your Boss and never try for getting over-credit. ..

Don't feel happy when ur colleague is under pressure.. "

It doesn't matter if u r A or B, for the Boss u shall be always DONKEY

And most importantly,

Never Work Hard, Work Cleverly.... .
26th October 2006 From India, Hyderabad
Good one! I guess team work always works better than individual task. Better for both types of performer. Jhuma
26th October 2006 From India, Mumbai
hiee.

I purely agree to this.

The smarter you try to be, the more the expectations and at the end of the day one sees himself in a pit dug by none other than he himself!

I wanna share here.

When I was in mumbai working in an Event mgt firm. I was quite excited to prove my capability since I was working in a so called professional organization.

Although my role was client servicing bringing corporate accounts, I was good in making PPT presentations. I would help another colleague of mine who was a level junior to mine since he dint know anything in PPT.

Everyone wud come to me asking for help...

Suddenly I one day realised, that this junior colleague of mine wud nicely give me Excel files/PPT very sweetly and then himself relax and show off!

Even i wud be busy doing double work helping out my colleagues and even taking blames coz i had helped them.

That was the day i realised better to perform just your own tasks as best you can within the given time frame and abilities and not stretch yourself too much that you end up losing.

Thats true its more important to work smarter than harder!

Cheers

Nisha
26th October 2006 From India, Pune
Hi,
Very good story.
But, why did Donkey A took more load? I do not find a reason in the story? Is it for appreciation from the washerman or more feed from him or for what? Just for the sake of carrying more load? Or, for humiliating the donkey-B? The story does not tell anything on the reason or motive of donkey-A.
Thanks,
Jeevan
26th October 2006 From India, Bangalore
Well the story has a sadistic angle in a way it indicates that no matter how much u work ur boss will never be satisfied. Well HR is about believing in people...so i would suggest beleive in ur boss tooo!!! if u really want to grow up the corporate ladder u need to work hard put in that extra effort and i am sure u will get returns...yes i do agree to the fact that instead of competing with the collegues we should collaborate and work in teams..anyways it was a good attempt
Cheers
Shikha Sahai
27th October 2006 From India, New Delhi
Hi,

This is a good one and is very relevant to me since I have some projects coming up which includes “teamwork” as a topic as well.

As posted by Nisha when working in a team some may have the capability of manipulating and getting the work done through others and claiming the applause as well. But when working in an organization the teams have to be formed in a way where these should be avoided.

When recruiting employees who have to work as a team for a specialized task some recruiters conduct Psychometric tests to recruit employees who will fit in to form a healthy “Group”. A person with manipulative behaviour can also be included if the team consists of another member who knows how to use that particular manipulative skill to the whole team advantage. A person with aggressive behaviour could be included if another member has the quality of knowing how to use that for the teams advantage as well. There should be planners, members who have the ability to put that plan in to action, who have the ability to work towards the end, people who work with logic and people with facts etc.

It is sort of like all these different personalities are pieces of a puzzle. And if all these personalities can be fitted perfectly……….well it’s a perfect team.

There are loads of Psychometric Tests on line to find out what personality you are when it comes to team work.

Regards,

Ashra


27th October 2006 From Sri Lanka
There is a master talent in most of us. Any talent which we have could be used to our advantage as well as disadvantage. When it comes to working in groups all these talents blend together to create a more successful out come.
What I suggested was when we work as a team and understand each other we get to know how exactly each individual skill could be used as an advantage for the group outcome. Maybe the manipulative skill can be used to gain an outside resource or input which may be needed to complete the task. It is how the group helps each other see and use the positive side of each individual’s talent.

27th October 2006 From Sri Lanka
yes you are 100% right,then it will inhances team spirit and respecting attitude among employees in any organisaion (social as well Prof) mamta :)
27th October 2006 From India, Mumbai
Good one !!!

Goose Story - Stand by each other

When you see geese flying along in "V" formation, you might consider what science has discovered as to why they fly that way. As each bird flaps its wings, it creates an uplift for the bird immediately following. By flying in "V" formation, the whole flock adds at least 71 percent greater flying range than if each bird flew on its own. People who share a common direction and sense of community can get where they are going more quickly and easily because they are traveling on the thrust of one another.

When a goose falls out of formation, it suddenly feels the drag and resistance of trying to go it alone - and quickly gets back into formation to take advantage of the lifting power of the bird in front. If we have as much sense as a goose, we will stay in formation with those people who are headed the same way we are.

When the head goose gets tired, it rotates back in the wing and another goose flies point. It is sensible to take turns doing demanding jobs, whether with people or with geese flying south. Geese honk from behind to encourage those up front to keep up their speed.

What messages do we give when we honk from behind? Finally - and this is important - when a goose gets sick or is wounded by gunshot, and falls out of formation, two other geese fall out with that goose and follow it down to lend help and protection. They stay with the fallen goose until it is able to fly or until it dies, and only then do they launch out on their own, or with another formation to catch up with their group.

If we have the sense of a goose, we will stand by each other like that.

Viji
27th October 2006 From India, Bangalore
Since Viji has mentioned the concep of team work and Flight of geese, I would like to share a PPT on Flight of geese.
27th October 2006 From India, Hyderabad

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Hi,

Yes, it is indeed a brilliant story for reflection.

The moral of the story is beautiful but very idealistic.

If we observe the dynamics in the office it is a replicate behavior of Donkey A & B......Perhaps this stems from our childhood when we are told and encouraged to perform better than others to be noticed and appreciated. We all carry a lot of our childhood traits into our adult life and this shows in one way or the other in our performance at work or at social circuits.

When we talk about team work, one needs to understand the contributions made by the Individual to the group/team performance. The acknowledgement of this contribution has to be made in a very distinct manner by the Supervisors concerned in order to encourage each member to contribute his/her best knowing their capabilities or shortcomings.

Regards,

Chris
27th October 2006 From India, Panipat
Hi Ashra
The concept of geese has been there from a long time. Many people have researched in this and i have ateast seen 5 - 10 beautiful presntations on this.
You can go ahead and use it. When you use it for an assignment mention the site from where you got it. So other people who are desperately in need of "HR Wisdom" can use this.
Regards,
Mallet.
27th October 2006 From India, Hyderabad
Ashra,
I dont know origin of this story, of course you can use this. Actually this part of training (soft skills) given to young engineers who come to industry directly from college/school. I ll attach another interesting Philosophy (like goose philosophy) which is as good as Geese.
:)
Viji
27th October 2006 From India, Bangalore

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Its good to see many articles put up on Team Work. It Just shows how greatly we value Team Work Thanx Viji for posting the Ant Philosophy. Regards, Mallet.
27th October 2006 From India, Hyderabad
I edorse your views expressed. In deed in industry the sucess of one man depends upon the performance of the other man. It is a chain link. Though the story is more apt, one should come out of the syndrome of don't do much and don't do less. We must ebark upon the opportunity and look for bottom line as end results only determines, whether we are sucess or failures. Sucess will have many fathers but failures will have none. Every one must excel and work in tandum.
N selvarajan
27th October 2006 From India, Nagercoil
Dear friend,
Very good story.
I have sent the old story of " Rabbit and Tortoise" as ppt in the category of New to the Forum, which also speaks about " Team Work ".
Kindly view that and do reply.
Mangai
28th October 2006 From India, Chennai
great story..three ways of looking at it -
a. can be used for expectation setting...but the context will have to be made clear.
b. If you link it to teamwork - then there is a saying - the speed of a the team is is the speed of slowest member in the team. So while not going overboard, the donkey B could have worked (if possible) to icrease efficiency.
c. it happens in a business scenario - that there might be one person with lots of energy and intelligence wanting to do more but pulled down by colleagues coz they are not geared up for challenges and thereby bring the morale of the team down.
29th October 2006
Hey Nisha,
may be this suits your story better.
"Give a hungry man a fish and he will be hungry again tomorrow. Give him a fishing rod and teach him how to fish and he will be hungry no more. ..."
Regarding the original post.. this is what we call productivity, this is how we identify our STAR performers, this is how we describe success. this where your entire PMS and C&B is concentrated on.
Interestingly as the story highlights, there has been quite some research happening on the subject "How to manage your star performers" which some where discusses issues arising due to such isues.
Can we really help solve this problem!!! i dont know.. but one thing i have been taught early in my career by my boss if that everything that goes up very fast .. withh have to come down at some point. teh more the spikes, the more the falls. Consistency is important and grow like a ladder than a Sine Curve.
Regards
Srikanth Ch
30th October 2006 From India, Hyderabad
Just to add what Srikanth said, a beautiful quote.
"If you want to build a ship, don’t drum up the men to go to the forest to gather wood, saw it and nail the planks together. Instead, teach them the desire for the sea."– Antoine de Saint Exupéry
30th October 2006 From India, Hyderabad
Thank Mallet for posting the story. It fits in with an old Chinese saying:
Capability invites laboriousness.
or: Able people should do more work.
So does Nisha's example.
However, I do not suppose that the donkeys story is a good one for implying sth about team work. Because the two donkeys seems not work as a team, they just work together.
A-Sum
31st October 2006
Hii,
it does imply a team. The job profile of both donkeys are the same .i.e. to carry the load.Both are team sharing some amount f work among them. But if one tries to be too smart, you have just seen what happened.
Regards,
Mallet.
31st October 2006 From India, Hyderabad
Hi,

Let me tell you another story. . .

Once upon a time a Washerman was bringing up two donkeys. Let us say Donkey-A and Donkey-B. Donkey-A felt it was very energetic and could do better than the other. It always tried to pull the washerman's attraction over it by taking more load and walking fast in front of him.

Donkey-B is a little lazy, so it will walk normal, irrespective of the washerman's presence. After a period of time, Washerman started pressurizing Donkey-B to be like Donkey-A. But Donkey-B unable to walk fast, got continuous punishment from washerman. It was crying and told personally to Donkey-A "Dear friend, only we two are here, why to compete with each other....we can carry equal load at normal speed ".

Donkey-A said to donkey B, "This is our job and I am doing with enthusiasm and happiness, you can also see things like me as we both are equal."

Donkey B did not accept this and it was difficult for it to carry the normal load itself. Donkey A carried more load and even it can run fast also.

Obviously happier washerman looked at Donkey-A.., gave more food and water and more time to relax, but the donkey A did not take it as an advantage it continued to do the work load and met the more than the expectation of the washerman. Washerman's BP raised when seeing Donkey B and he started kicking Donkey-B. Next day with more and more enthusiasm, Donkey-A carried more load and started running fast, due to the encouragement and continued to do the same. It was breathtaking for Donkey-B with a little over load and it couldn't act that way....But the washerman was frustrated, so he harassed Donkey-B terribly, and finally it fell down hopelessly.

Then Donkey-A felt itself as a supremo and happily started carrying more load with great speed. The washerman was more and more interested and care for the donkey gave more rest, shelter and food. Now the Load of the Donkey-B is also being carried by Donkey-A., and still it can run fast. It could meet the owner's satisfaction. Finally the day came the washerman died, Washerman friend who know about the donkey"s ability took it for a high price for his use.

Its an endless story....... ..

But the moral of the Story in Corporate and Social life is......, "It all matters which boss are you, u encourage people they do more enthusiastically and happily. .. "

Your are not a donkey whether it is washerman or his friend, you are a intangible asset for them. "Don't feel tiresome when ur under little more pressure, its an opportunity to show ur unrevealed knowledge . . "

"Do Work Hard smartly .... ."

Regards,

LN Battacharya
2nd November 2006
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