Dear All, I had a query regarding the Nomination in PF and Gratuity.
As per my knowledge an employee nomination in both the cases automatically cancelled when he acquired the family.
If previously instead of wife nomination was father or mother or somebody else, what is the process we have to follow for the same.
What are the various forms we all have to fill in PF and Gratuity for the change in same.
Would appreciate your early response.
From India, New Delhi
11As per my knowledge an employee nomination in both the cases automatically cancelled when he acquired the family.
If previously instead of wife nomination was father or mother or somebody else, what is the process we have to follow for the same.
What are the various forms we all have to fill in PF and Gratuity for the change in same.
Would appreciate your early response.
From India, New Delhi
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dear we have to take fresh nomination for on form 2 for PF and form F for gratuity. tks j s malik
From India, Delhi
From India, Delhi
Thanks Mr.Malik for ur early response. Is it possible that someone else become nominee in pf except the family member i.e wife and children.
Is defination of family varies in PF and Esic act.
Plz suggest
With Warm Regards
Ranjeet
From India, New Delhi
Is defination of family varies in PF and Esic act.
Plz suggest
With Warm Regards
Ranjeet
From India, New Delhi
An outsider can also become a nominee but under normal circumstances spouse and children are suppose to be nominees. Under Employees Provident Fund (as also ESI)family may include dependent parents whereas under the Pension Fund it is restricted to spouse and children only. Therefore, it is always advisable to get the name of spouse as nominee if he had not nominated anybody before his/ her marriage.
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Dear Ranjeet,
According to the The Payment Gratuity Act & Rules an employee who have completed one year of service shall submitt a nominationin Form "F" to the employer & if he/she was not having the family at the time of making a nomination shall within 90 days of acquiring a family submitt a fresh nomination in Form "G" to the employer.Modification of nomination may be made by submitting a Form "H'. This information is based on The Haryana Payment Of Gratuity Rules,1972. There may be slight change in your State/Central Rules in the name of different formats. Therefore it is advisable to go through your State/Central Rules whichever is applicable in your case before taking any action in this behalf.
Regards,
R.N.Khola
(Labour Law & Legal Consultants)
09810405361
From India, Delhi
According to the The Payment Gratuity Act & Rules an employee who have completed one year of service shall submitt a nominationin Form "F" to the employer & if he/she was not having the family at the time of making a nomination shall within 90 days of acquiring a family submitt a fresh nomination in Form "G" to the employer.Modification of nomination may be made by submitting a Form "H'. This information is based on The Haryana Payment Of Gratuity Rules,1972. There may be slight change in your State/Central Rules in the name of different formats. Therefore it is advisable to go through your State/Central Rules whichever is applicable in your case before taking any action in this behalf.
Regards,
R.N.Khola
(Labour Law & Legal Consultants)
09810405361
From India, Delhi
Dear Mr.Madhu & Mr.Khosla,
Thanks for the information. But which is the amount which an outsider is eligible in case of nominee.
If a person not have any family than the person nominated remain in the defination of family or not.
For ex-One of my employee nominated her nephew as nominee but she is not married till now. is her nephew comes under the defination of family.
Mr.Khosla, Is form no. of H is applicable for the associates whom gratuty come from the trust.
Please suggest.
With warm regards
Ranjeet
From India, New Delhi
Thanks for the information. But which is the amount which an outsider is eligible in case of nominee.
If a person not have any family than the person nominated remain in the defination of family or not.
For ex-One of my employee nominated her nephew as nominee but she is not married till now. is her nephew comes under the defination of family.
Mr.Khosla, Is form no. of H is applicable for the associates whom gratuty come from the trust.
Please suggest.
With warm regards
Ranjeet
From India, New Delhi
Until her marriage the nomination of nephew will prevail and in the event of any unfortunate event any amount payable will become payable to the so nominated nephew. Regards, Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
From India, Kannur
Dear All,
Thanks For the information.
In my company, we are implementing oracle based softwares so that we are able to make a common database for all the employees.
When i am going through thier personal files a lot of information is concealing and lot of wrong information is there.
People joined back so many years but now their address changed but we dont have exact information. what to do now.
We have taken the initiative to fill all those nomination and change in nomination form once again.
Now people, asking me different type of question related to their nominations aec.
One question is that if an employee is having a family and they have dependant parents, they can make them nominee or not.
Other is that one of our female emlpoyee have family and her mother is dependant on her. is it possible that she make her nominee.
Early response will be highly appreciated.
Regards
Ranjeet
From India, New Delhi
Thanks For the information.
In my company, we are implementing oracle based softwares so that we are able to make a common database for all the employees.
When i am going through thier personal files a lot of information is concealing and lot of wrong information is there.
People joined back so many years but now their address changed but we dont have exact information. what to do now.
We have taken the initiative to fill all those nomination and change in nomination form once again.
Now people, asking me different type of question related to their nominations aec.
One question is that if an employee is having a family and they have dependant parents, they can make them nominee or not.
Other is that one of our female emlpoyee have family and her mother is dependant on her. is it possible that she make her nominee.
Early response will be highly appreciated.
Regards
Ranjeet
From India, New Delhi
Ranjeet,
Advise them to put spouse and or children as nominee where ever possible and in case of unmarried employee let them nominate mother or father. Only in rare cases any other person than these shall be nominated. Even for an unmarried employee, it is always advisable to nominate his/ her mother and in case mother is not alive then nominate father. This is my personal advice. Nomination in favour of more than one persons is also valid. But if the person is married it shall be in favour of spouse and children only and not in favour of spouse and parents. Similarly, an unmarried employee shall have both father and mother as nominees. But ensure that soon after his/her marriage the nomination is changed in favour of spouse.
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
Advise them to put spouse and or children as nominee where ever possible and in case of unmarried employee let them nominate mother or father. Only in rare cases any other person than these shall be nominated. Even for an unmarried employee, it is always advisable to nominate his/ her mother and in case mother is not alive then nominate father. This is my personal advice. Nomination in favour of more than one persons is also valid. But if the person is married it shall be in favour of spouse and children only and not in favour of spouse and parents. Similarly, an unmarried employee shall have both father and mother as nominees. But ensure that soon after his/her marriage the nomination is changed in favour of spouse.
Regards,
Madhu.T.K
From India, Kannur
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