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Old 26-03-2008, 11:29 AM
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Do you think existing corporate trainings will be enough to get going along with the trend of fast growing and demanding software development ?
What you think about the personality development of the employees ?
How do you manage your corporate trainings provided by the companies?
Do you feel the quality must up grade in the corporate training ?

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Old 26-03-2008, 12:30 PM
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Before saying anything ... I would like tell the pros and cons of training business, which may be a answer to your question

Pros :
--> Indian IT training market grows 46% YOY; at Rs. 2,135 Cr in 2006-07.
--> Indian companies spend anywhere between 0.5 and 2 per cent of their turnover on training their employees.
--> IT and ITES companies, which are essentially people-oriented businesses, spend about 3-5 per cent of their revenues on upgrading employee skills.
--> More and more young people now are seeing this as an industry offering a corporatized professional work environment.
--> Solid Head Hunting in Sales & for trainers
--> Lotz of players in the market but Sales Professional with less passion for this industry…due to work pressure.
--> One Can Easily Streamline your career ..In this industry
--> Continuous Learning and Interaction with Best Professionals is very High.
--> International Market for Indian Trainings.
--> High Professional Industry…Solid White Collar

Cons :
--> The training Budget is the first to get a cut in any company before they fire there employees.
--> Lots of freelancer in market, who are ready to do trainers in very less cost as compared to organized companies
--> Repetition of same profiles in the market by different vendors
--> Sales Pressure in Trainings is high due to overheads.
--> 7/10 training companies’ loss their patients and vision in their first year of business
--> For many companies Training are just an part of budget and not employee growth

As on today lack of projects,Dollar rate is affecting the training business a lot but to be part of training industry is great fun and there is lotz of B2B business skills required...which once learns..

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Old 27-03-2008, 07:49 AM
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Default corporate training evaluation of relevance, adequacy...

Hi!

Your query 1: Existing trainings enough?

If training is meant to help a person learn, then, there is no 'enough' regarding training...

Individuals and companies need to keep learning because of the growth and development in the software technologies demand that you keep updating. You may even have to abandon (not just update) what you were always doing in favour of what is emerging, just to cope with changing technologies... [Keep reading/reflecting on "The Fifth Discipline" of Peter Senge, to understand what a Learning Individual and a Learning Organization are; also, read his other book on education titled "Schools that Learn". Both are very relevant here.

In this context, you may, also, ask the question, How much of a learner one is motivated to become by the existing training. [How often people think they have nothing to learn? Or, that they cannot study further just because s/he dropped out of education after schooling... For instance, a driver of the company may do well to learn a foreign spoken language; or GPS/GPRS guided driving lessons...]

Also ask how much of a help existing training offers to find one's way to become a better learner: Does it challenge them to learn, and show them the vast resources available on the net?

Your query 2: What do I think of "Personality Development" of employees...
Today, we know more about a personality than what we knew earlier: I refer you to Robert Dilt's introduction of Gregory Bateson's ideas on "Logical Levels of Human Behaviour" into Neuro-Linguistic Programming. What we see in a person are only the observable two levels: The environment and behaviour. The environment may be the dress/smile one wears on the outside. The behaviour/action is the activity one does: writing codes, sweeping the floor... But, these activities will be influenced by one's 'capacity' that is not visible, until it comes out as behaviour, or exhibited by the environment s/he creates.
The 'capacity' is again governed by deeper level of 'attitude' which again is governed by 'values/beliefs' which is again governed by one's sense of 'identity' and then by 'spirituality'!

Probably, most of our training is on the peripheral level only: environment and behaviour/action, or they are capacity building trainings!

Hardly ever we go anything deeper: Changing one's attitudes, values, beliefs, identity and spirituality is scary?

Imagine you train one to be a great surgeon. S/he has no proper attitude/values... And you end up with creating people who will selectively abort female babies, and in a situation where the nation will be lacking women? I mean, it's time we learnt to teach at these deeper levels, not leaving them to politicians to manipulate us at these deeper levels!
Kindly refer: http://www.integratedsociopsychology...ls.html <br />
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_levels

For instance, the 'identity' we think to be so personal is what we got from others, 'after' birth - from the way others treated us, from what others told about us... How often people dear to us scolded us "useless fellow" or "It's a girl... we don't know how we will settle her in the future?"... and got to establish a poor self image? And, not treating this part of the self, how do you build the personality of the individual? I believe, and use effectively, NLP techniques to build the person from the deeper logical levels. For more kindly refer to my online training manual that you may easily 'paradigm shift' to corporate contexts: http://www.bondedlabour.org/web/pdf/...osperity_2.pdf

Your query 3: How do you manage your corporate trainings provided by the companies?
As a Trainer, I go beyond what is asked for. Typically, people who ask for training, the managers as well as the trainees, do not know what they could avail today by way of training. With the hope they'll appreciate what I offer for their growth and development, as individuals, members of a family and an organization, I offer more than what is asked for, by getting information on what will be useful and relevant to them by my reading from management articles/books (like the Fifth Discipline) and design/deliver training. And, they are always much appreciated. You will see a typical design of my corporate training in the report of a corporate training attached to this reply to your posting.


Do you feel the quality must up grade in the corporate training ?

I do believe I must upgrade quality of my training, always. And, I do reading/reflecting/experimenting all the time, to ensure I remain more and more capable of offering effective training.

Regards,
Arulraja.
arulraja1gmail.com

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Old 27-06-2008, 02:24 PM
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Hi!

Your query 1: Existing trainings enough?

If training is meant to help a person learn, then, there is no 'enough' regarding training...

Individuals and companies need to keep learning because of the growth and development in the software technologies demand that you keep updating. You may even have to abandon (not just update) what you were always doing in favour of what is emerging, just to cope with changing technologies... [Keep reading/reflecting on "The Fifth Discipline" of Peter Senge, to understand what a Learning Individual and a Learning Organization are; also, read his other book on education titled "Schools that Learn". Both are very relevant here.

In this context, you may, also, ask the question, How much of a learner one is motivated to become by the existing training. [How often people think they have nothing to learn? Or, that they cannot study further just because s/he dropped out of education after schooling... For instance, a driver of the company may do well to learn a foreign spoken language; or GPS/GPRS guided driving lessons...]

Also ask how much of a help existing training offers to find one's way to become a better learner: Does it challenge them to learn, and show them the vast resources available on the net?

Your query 2: What do I think of "Personality Development" of employees...
Today, we know more about a personality than what we knew earlier: I refer you to Robert Dilt's introduction of Gregory Bateson's ideas on "Logical Levels of Human Behaviour" into Neuro-Linguistic Programming. What we see in a person are only the observable two levels: The environment and behaviour. The environment may be the dress/smile one wears on the outside. The behaviour/action is the activity one does: writing codes, sweeping the floor... But, these activities will be influenced by one's 'capacity' that is not visible, until it comes out as behaviour, or exhibited by the environment s/he creates.
The 'capacity' is again governed by deeper level of 'attitude' which again is governed by 'values/beliefs' which is again governed by one's sense of 'identity' and then by 'spirituality'!

Probably, most of our training is on the peripheral level only: environment and behaviour/action, or they are capacity building trainings!

Hardly ever we go anything deeper: Changing one's attitudes, values, beliefs, identity and spirituality is scary?

Imagine you train one to be a great surgeon. S/he has no proper attitude/values... And you end up with creating people who will selectively abort female babies, and in a situation where the nation will be lacking women? I mean, it's time we learnt to teach at these deeper levels, not leaving them to politicians to manipulate us at these deeper levels!
Kindly refer: Keith E Rice - Neurological Levels
Neurological levels - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For instance, the 'identity' we think to be so personal is what we got from others, 'after' birth - from the way others treated us, from what others told about us... How often people dear to us scolded us "useless fellow" or "It's a girl... we don't know how we will settle her in the future?"... and got to establish a poor self image? And, not treating this part of the self, how do you build the personality of the individual? I believe, and use effectively, NLP techniques to build the person from the deeper logical levels. For more kindly refer to my online training manual that you may easily 'paradigm shift' to corporate contexts: http://www.bondedlabour.org/web/pdf/...osperity_2.pdf

Your query 3: How do you manage your corporate trainings provided by the companies?
As a Trainer, I go beyond what is asked for. Typically, people who ask for training, the managers as well as the trainees, do not know what they could avail today by way of training. With the hope they'll appreciate what I offer for their growth and development, as individuals, members of a family and an organization, I offer more than what is asked for, by getting information on what will be useful and relevant to them by my reading from management articles/books (like the Fifth Discipline) and design/deliver training. And, they are always much appreciated. You will see a typical design of my corporate training in the report of a corporate training attached to this reply to your posting.


Do you feel the quality must up grade in the corporate training ?

I do believe I must upgrade quality of my training, always. And, I do reading/reflecting/experimenting all the time, to ensure I remain more and more capable of offering effective training.

Regards,
Arulraja.
arulraja1gmail.com
Hi!
Arulraja

I have gone thru the feedback on the V-link project and would congratulate you on the same. I am looking after the Training & Development of an international Car rental company called 'Budget Rent a Car' and would like to know if you do Mystery Shopping? Please do let me know on the same. My number is 9930250575
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Old 27-06-2008, 03:00 PM
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Hi,

With the same would like to express my views:

Do you think existing corporate trainings will be enough to get going along with the trend of fast growing and demanding software development ?
It is very important to understand the meaning of training: Training is a learning process and with the same view, learning never ends... and we have to update ourself with the new technologies which are up in this competitive environment.So, No the trainings are not enough they need to be more updated and more quantitative as well qualitative.

What you think about the personality development of the employees ?
Personality , plays a vital role for the employees to live in the corporate. And development comes with the experience of their work.
Personality Development of the employees helps them to be more confident and self reliant. Personality is the sum total of outer personality and inner qualities , growth in personal nature, personal character and progress, evolution, maturing , disposition...
Confidence building and self esteem is a part of personality development.To take care of Commitment, Control and Challenge.

How do you manage your corporate trainings provided by the companies?
As a trainer, I believe, its managing corporate responsibility. Enhance the positive and minimizes the negative impact of out activities. A successful corporate trainings is managing the human, cultural and social capital. Majorly we take care that :
The design of the training content and delivery is not too complicated and does not require the overall change very rapidly.
Consider cultural conditioned learning styles and makes allowance
Step-by-step the strategies are placed to support the continuity.
Learning objectives are clearly specified.

Do you feel the quality must up grade in the corporate training ?
There is a lot of difference between upgradation and updation...
And I believe both id required in the regular learning program like trainings.

Hope it will be of help.

Regards,
Bhawana Shara
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