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Old 12-04-2006, 04:26 PM
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Default Starting T&D Dept. in pvt ltd comp

Hello members,

I am anupama, I am not very new to trng field as i was doing OBT's as freelancer for sometime.

Now i have joined an organization of appx 5500 employess. i ve taken up this challenge of setting up T&D dept here. i am looking after behavioral trng(imparting trng myself) but need to take care of functional as well as skill needs also. They are into manufacturing, selling & dealing with forigen buyers.

Here i ve 13 different areas(departments) and people from very diverse background.strenght consists of very pricy sales people to very down to earth operators and supervisors.

No one has exposure to trng, not even top mgmt.

I ve already done TNA(self & immidiate supervisor) of all 5500 employees and now need to make the calender for the yr.

I am bit confused about how to decide the topics and days for the trng.and how to formulate the yrly calender.

Delima here is i ve no team or support and people here are not at all interested in undergoing trng, but mgmt is very keen on T&D.

i am having difficulty but want to fight back .

Pls help me in this.
Leo sir, Rajat sir --looking forward to your response especially.

Thanks in advance
Anupama
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Old 12-04-2006, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: Starting T&D Dept. in pvt ltd comp

Hi Anupama

The most critical step for such an initiative to succeed is to have the top management buy-in.
1. Have a meeting to understand their expectations and the budgets that they are willing to set aside for such an initiative.
2. Identify if internal trainings are the solution or whether a solution like eLearning will meet your organization requirements. eLearning will also ensure that you do not have to continually worry about trainers, schedules, getting people off work etc
3. Identify the first set of people who need the training.
4. Have a presentation with management on the steps forward
Preparing the schedule is a step that happens much later.

Hope this helps.

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Old 12-04-2006, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: Starting T&D Dept. in pvt ltd comp

thanks rashmi for the input.

i ve done some programs targeting different people at different levels but absentism is the big hurdel in executing the programs.people don't turn up for trng and give excuse of workload and having no time for trng.

I ve done one obt for top people which was well recieved by some.
now mgmt is looking forward to my plans so that they can think of allocating budget.

suggest?
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Old 12-04-2006, 06:09 PM
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Hi Anupama

Your plan to management should include the following:
1. Industry overview on what similar companies in your industry are doing in the T&D front
2. From your TNA, critical areas in your organisation that need training
3. Plan on how to conduct the training - will u need to conduct outside training vendors, can it be done inhouse etc
4. ROI to company - Very clearly, the management should be able to see how the organisation benefits - shortterm and long-term
5. Support needed from top management to implement the plan - include budgets, manpower etc

You have got an amazing chance to change your organisation and a successful stint here can do wonders. I run an eLearning company and also offer consultancy to companies on implementing trainings.
Keep writing in and keep me posted.

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Old 12-04-2006, 06:24 PM
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Hi Anupama,

I loved your comments and have to tell you from one trainer to another I sympathize with your delemna.

As I read your query it occurred to me that you might want to consider beginning your whole effort as treating setting up the training department with as a change management effort.

Agree you absolutely MUST have top managment support or you will fail.
Unless and until those funding, supporting , attending the training see the value both organizationally and personally naught will change. Training is costly for all organizations and it is critical that managment see the business value, what improvements will be made ie Customer retention, increased sales, increased profit share etc..Individuals must be able to answer WIIFM what's in it for me to understand the personal value.

Perhaps building attending training into the job requirements will get participants to the courses but as you know, the choice to learn, participate and apply skills learned is individual and when we deal with adults, the best we as trainers can do is guide through the process and show the value.

I am interested in knowing if this company has developed a training strategy and plan? How does the t&d department fit into this? Oh so many questions...The fact that you appear not to have support is not a good sign. Try obtaining a mentor/champion in upper management who has a like minded view of training to help you influence what has to be done.Also perhaps a mini change champion team with reps from the departments who could meet with you to support and spread the value word.

Not many suggestions but perhaps there may be some value for you here.
Hope this helps.

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Old 13-04-2006, 09:26 AM
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Hello Anupama,

A calendar approach is fine when you have a large budget. If training is new to the organization, I’d take a project-based approach. What are the key manager/employee capabilities that the organization requires to achieve its strategic and operational objectives – assuming that it has a strategic/operational plan? Work with managers to identify the key needs. This is different to a wish list that I see many organizations come up with – a list of what training managers/employees would “like” to do. Next allocate priorities and budgets.

Some organizations deem so many days compulsory training per employee per year. This can work to change the culture, but should only be used as an interim measure and is not as effective as a project-based approach.

As for wanting to fight back, if your attitude is to “fight”, you have already lost the battle. To turn around employee attitudes to training, you will need to work in partnership with managers/supervisors. Together, there is a lot you will need to do before and after each training session for employees to become engaged. Have a look at our page at:

http://www.businessperform.com/html/..._training.html

This page is specifically about transfer of training back to the workplace, however, the pointers on building a partnership and the pre- and post-training activities are very relevant here. The most useful points are:

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If your organization is struggling to see the skills learned during training transferred to actual application in the participant’s job, here are ten pointers to help you figure out why. Think here about your last course in which the training was not transferred successfully.

· Did instructional designers, trainers and line managers work together in partnership or was work on the program done in isolation with little collaboration?

· Were non-training solutions seriously considered or was a training request received and an off-the-shelf solution delivered?

· Were training outcomes stated in behavior and performance terms or were outcomes unstated or stated in fuzzy terms?

· Were training objectives tied to stated organizational objectives or were they left floating in the organizational ether?

· Were managers and supervisors actively involved before, during and after the program or was the program divorced from the employee's day to day work?

· Was post-training support provided back in the workplace, such as coaching and on-the-job aids, or were employees left to flounder with no opportunity to practice?

· Were new procedures and role expectations clearly communicated to employees or were they left wondering why they were nominated for the program?

· Were workplace performance expectations agreed with employees prior to the training, or was it back to "business as usual"?

· Was the training integrated with a well thought-out and implemented change or improvement program, or was the training a single point "silver bullet" solution?

· Did you measure the organizational impact of the program or rely solely on "happy sheets" for feedback?

How did your last training program measure up? From your answers, draw up an action plan that you can implement for your next program. Remember, the responsibility for transferring training to the workplace is not the sole responsibility of the trainer. It is also neither the sole responsibility of the training participant nor their manager or supervisor. It is a shared responsibility between all three parties acting in partnership. Only with all three roles collaborating to ensure that skills are transferred to the workplace will training participants change their behavior back on the job and the organization reap the benefits of training.
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The most important activity for managers/supervisors is the pre-training and post-training conversations they have with each employee about why the training is important, how the employee will apply the new skills learned and what the employee needs from their manager/supervisor to be able to do this. As well, having managers introduce the trainer at the beginning of each training course emphasizes the credibility of the trainer and management support for the training. The work of Broad and Newstrom in “Transfer of Training” is particularly useful. Also, you might want to check out our book “From Training to Enhanced Workplace Performance” http://www.businessperform.com/html/..._transfer.html
as it goes into the detail of what I am talking about here. It’s one thing for managers to say they support the training, its another for them to visibly demonstrate this to the people who care – the employees/training participants.

Along with this, reporting to managers the absentee rate for courses and the cost to the organization may help to spur them into action. Just make sure that you have an action plan ready to recommended to them.

Vicki Heath
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Old 13-04-2006, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: Starting T&D Dept. in pvt ltd comp

thanks All, for your valuable inputs.

Thanks rashmi for your suggestions.Yes i do agree that i have a fair chance to change the organisatio. but agian this is where i feel stuck up.
Max. people here are masters of their own areas(skilled) and are in the trade for long but not educated.


Jev thanks for understanding me. refering to your queries - No company has not developed any strategy or plan for training. to be very honest there are not at all, any kind of strategies and plans anywhere, in any area. but every yr they are adding to their profit.

Ive tried to involve top mgmt and others to make small team and work collectivly. the only reply comes is why you are there for?(with doubtful look on the face

So end of the day i am left with myself to do everything regarding trng.

Also tell me
1. How can i make them see the value trng will add to their company.(as jev said)
2. how can i make a small plan for six months or 1 yr which will show the visible contribution trng has made.
3. Is it advisable to focus on a small group or only some departments for trng , if it works then go ahead with rest of the strength?

Keep suggesting
regards
Anupama
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Old 13-04-2006, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: Starting T&D Dept. in pvt ltd comp

Dear Anupama,

For your situation, i can suggest only one thing. Just concentrate on line management for training. Right now you just forget total employees in your organinsation. If you want to creat real learning environment, just train all key person and heads of your organisation. Untill and unless they are not serious for traing matter, any good effect will not occure. So once they are train for what you want to do in organisation, participation from all side will automatically follow, as all head will recomend it.

so personally i belive that go for behavioral training for all heads.

Regards

Virendra




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Originally Posted by anupama ahuja
Hello members,

I am anupama, I am not very new to trng field as i was doing OBT's as freelancer for sometime.

Now i have joined an organization of appx 5500 employess. i ve taken up this challenge of setting up T&D dept here. i am looking after behavioral trng(imparting trng myself) but need to take care of functional as well as skill needs also. They are into manufacturing, selling & dealing with forigen buyers.

Here i ve 13 different areas(departments) and people from very diverse background.strenght consists of very pricy sales people to very down to earth operators and supervisors.

No one has exposure to trng, not even top mgmt.

I ve already done TNA(self & immidiate supervisor) of all 5500 employees and now need to make the calender for the yr.

I am bit confused about how to decide the topics and days for the trng.and how to formulate the yrly calender.

Delima here is i ve no team or support and people here are not at all interested in undergoing trng, but mgmt is very keen on T&D.

i am having difficulty but want to fight back .

Pls help me in this.
Leo sir, Rajat sir --looking forward to your response especially.

Thanks in advance
Anupama
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Old 15-04-2006, 03:36 PM
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thanks viren for the suggestion.

addition to that citehr supremo has given me great suggestions which are there in "talk to senior" section.

very very valuable.

thanks to all for their inputs.

regards anupama
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